Baron Davis and Gilbert Arenas could both end up with NY?

[Red Vines]

There's no minutes for him here unless you want to bench Bibby.

[Capn'O]

I actually don't doubt that Arenas could have a bounce back year and probably average like 16 ppg in the right place... but that place is NOT here. Yes we need a PG, but Arenas has proved time after time that he's a SG stuck in a PG's body. Not to mention his best ability is to score (and inefficiently), which while yes it'd be nice to have a 6th man type scorer... I'd rather a defensively capable guy with size (SHUMPERT) get those minutes. I haven't even gotten into his stupidity.

I really, really want Baron. Like by far the best option right now (and I would've taken him over Shawne too)... he fills a need and could be a great addition without getting in the way.

With Baron we could move Toney back to the bench where he belongs (once Baron is healthy and there could be a weening period where BD comes off the bench a few games to get back into it) and keep Shumpert at 6th man.

I like this rotation:
PG: Baron (28)- Douglas (20)- Bibby/Shumpert
SG: Landry (25)- Shumpert (23)- Walker
SF: Melo (36)- Landry (7)- Balkman (5)**
PF: Amar'e (35)- Jefferies/Balkman (13)**- Jorts
C: Chandler (30)- Jorts (18)- Jefferies/Jerome

**We might still add a tweener forward to take those minutes (Posey? Nachbar), but maybe this is the year Balkman doesn't have a coach that hates him and he actually puts in some effort? (or more likely I'm overreacting to a pre-season game).

And it might be a little pre-mature to count on both Jorts and Shumpert for consistent rotation minutes, but I'm so in love with them (especially after yesterday). If Shump struggles then D'Antoni could give some of his back up SG minutes to Douglas.

Arenas would just crowd the back court taking away minutes from Landry, Shumpert and Douglas.

This, although I prefer this lineup at least to start the year.

Davis/Bibby/Douglas
Shumpert/Fields/Douglas
Melo/Fields/Walker
Stat/Balkman/Jeffries
Chandler/Jeffries/Jorts

Same conditions with Balkman.

I like Fields as the supersub and Douglas for tough defensive assignments.

[devv83]

What's up with you guys wanting all these washed up guys with bad character issues?

out of shape guys who fake injuries, guns in the locker room, **** in shoes. It's a reason teams dont want these guys around their young guys.

[Starks]

LOL at people mistaking Bibby for a good player.

[suicidedeuce]

Here's a solution for Arenas:

Hunter's memo Wednesday specified the following D-League rules:

• Players with more than three years' experience can be assigned to the D-League -- for example, for injury rehabilitation -- but only when the player and the union request the assignment. Under the previous CBA, players with more than two years' experience could not be assigned to the D-League no matter what.

Knicks tell him to go down there for a month, be the best, most positive leader on the squad. Show you're willing to distribute and that the shooting touch is still there. Accept the assignment, bust your ass for a month, then we'll give you a look.

[AmareNY]

Lets not kill team chemistry

[Normalyute]

Gilbert made alots of mistakes but he did take less money from the wiz that shows hes a team player.

[Thugger HBC]

Gilbert made alots of mistakes but he did take less money from the wiz that shows hes a team player.

His last contract was 6years, 110 mil in 2008.

Not sure how much more he could have got.

[CrazyKnicks]

No offense, but you have to be a moron to want Arenas on this team. We don't need 20 guards.

You're assuming that TD or Shumpert are answers to our pg problems. Also Davis is not a sure thing, he still hasn't signed here and has injury questions. So yeah you do need 20 guards on this team and hope 2 or 3 work out so our backcourt is solid.

[JustCame]

Gilbert made alots of mistakes but he did take less money from the wiz that shows hes a team player.

His last contract was 6years, 110 mil in 2008.

Not sure how much more he could have got.

He could have gotten a bit more.

[Thugger HBC]

Gilbert made alots of mistakes but he did take less money from the wiz that shows hes a team player.

His last contract was 6years, 110 mil in 2008.

Not sure how much more he could have got.

He could have gotten a bit more.

He was injured when he signed it.

[kane2021]

I honestly would consider it. I dont think he is the type that wants to prove he is a star. I think Arenas is the type to prove people wrong. If people think he is washed up, a trouble maker, and cannot play a role, I think he would make it his business to prove he can.

I think it has to be the right situation. He is no longer a 20 million dollar per year player with face of franchise expectation. He seems to have been humbled. And his physical limitations have calmed his game. He still has a high level of focus and intensity for the game. And can still be a deadly shooter when he gets hot.

He will be on a team with leaders. If he messes up then cut him. If he pans out you have a dangerous offensive player off the bench. And a insurance policy.

Its not uncommon for these injuries to take 2-3 years to recover. I have never liked areans. The person or player. But I know what its like to **** up. And I know whats its like to get that 2nd chance.

All im saying is I think its worth sitting down with the guy and talking to him.

[Knicker23]

I think a lot of people, like myself, pose this as a "he could be a poison in the locker room, but he can still play" - but he really isn't that good anymore.... 13 ppg? ehh. He could certainly help our thin team, but he isn't that impressive anymore.

[Stannis]

**** it, bring him in!

[Appleshampoo]

Can he run a good pick and roll? If yes, I'd rather have him over Baron considering Baron is injured. It's peculiar that he only averaged 8 points for Orlando last season but if he's motivated he is worth a cheap contract (especially if he can run a pick and roll).

[kfig5]

Looks like the first domino has fallen with the Davis signing. I'm all for signing Gil as long as we keep him on a short leash...besides, I can't be the only sneakerhead who's intrigued by what heat he'll be rocking on the court if he signs with NY.

http://sneakerchamp.gilbertarenas.com/2010/11/

[Shemy]

Davis
Arenas
Melo
Amare
Chandler

need moar scoring lolz

[NYK StateOfMind]

Reports have it that Baron Davis is healthy and could start for the Knicks from day one against the Celtics. Lets get Gilbert in a Knicks jersey now.

PG: Baron Davis.
SG: Toney Douglas.
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Amare Stoudemire
C: Tyson Chandler

PG: Gilbert Arenas.
2G: Iman Shumpert.
SF: Landry Fields.
PF: Josh Harrellson
C: Jerome Jordan.

Do you not see the potential of that 2nd unit?

Throw in high energy guys such as Balkman and Jeffries and wow.

[nykfan42]

Acquiring both Arenas and Davis should result in the termination of the entire NYK Front Office. It's bad enough having just one of them. If Davis limits his shots to 8 or 9 shots a game and just runs the offense I'm fine but I can't put up with 2 chuckers in the back court. Not my team, I've suffered for too long watching that crap.

[Deeeez Knicks]

No need for Gilbert now that we have Baron Davis. Toney Douglas is fine as our backup SG.