Orlando Magic vs Miami Heat Pre-Season

rcklsscognition · Post #561 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:03 am

richboy wrote:This is preseason. Why are people talking about a preseason game. Really.

Are you here for the participation trophy?

Driguez · Post #562 » by **Driguez** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:03 am

Jamaicankid21 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Stan system is not working anymore... It's obvious he's not willing to change it, he needs to go.

Who's system would work when Jameer Nelson is getting balled on by Dleaguers and Dwight Howard is getting outplayed by PIttman?? Jameer 0-10 Dwight 2-9.... 2-19 for our "captains"

This is not a one game deal, this has been happening for a looong time now.

flyingvee · Post #563 » by **flyingvee** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:03 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
WeAreVenom wrote:I don't understand.

Same team (mainly), same coach, same system, same GM = Same result.

Can you really blame Dwight, at this point? I'm starting to question not only Otis, but the Magic FO in general.

Exactly! People saying it's only preseason, but it's the same thing we've seen for years! Same plays, same system, same lack of effort, same lack of talent. It's not going to change.

Thanks for someone else saying this. seems the FO has no interest in winning because they keep tolerating this nonsense. except when i said it in another post, you all tell me to STFU.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #564 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:05 am

Sundamental wrote:I love it. The girl who doesn't know the difference between a pick and roll and a pick and pop is here spouting her wisdom. Must be something in the water down that way.

You know what I love about people like you....you seem to forget that once a person asks a question and told the answer, they most definitely have the ability to understand.

Yeah...a girl like me who didn't know the difference between a pick and roll and a pick and pop, had the courage to ask, can not only spot it but understand the reason for it. I'm also really good at analyzing....and the same thing that I've said before had almost all come to pass. So regardless if your ignorant comments was meant to put me down I'm still going to continue learning the game.

And do me a favor and go annoy someone else.

rcklsscognition · Post #565 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:05 am

We were blue tonight right?

The Magic Man · Post #566 » by **The Magic Man** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:06 am

grayson11 wrote:
The Magic Man wrote:The funny part about this season is that the Magic will wait till the trade deadline to trade Dwight,and teams will no the Magic are desperate because Dwight will be leaving,and they will get low ball offers for Dwight.But the Magic frontoffice is so stupid that they will let it happen.So the best thing for the Magic to do is trade Dwight now before the season starts.

So those teams w/out capspace won't get desperate knowing Dwight can't sign with them? The offers will only get better as the deadline approaches.

It want be that many offers,Dwight only said he would sign with Nets,Lakers,Mavs.So its basically a 2 team race with NJ/LA.If the Magic wait till the deadline they can kill the Bynum and Gasol trade,LA will know the Magic are desperate and can't lose D12 for nothing,so they will not overbid for D12 if its only a 2team race.

Bynum,TPE Dallas,2 1st rd for D12,Duhon
Lopez,5 1st rd for Dwight,Turk

WeAreVenom · Post #567 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:06 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
DavidBaumann33 David Baumann
SVG: "Hopefully it's a wake-up call for everybody." Magic lost to Heat 118-85.

Otis still sleeping

LOL, this is starting to feel alot like last season!

darthmerrick · Post #568 » by **darthmerrick** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:07 am

Jamaicankid21 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Stan system is not working anymore... It's obvious he's not willing to change it, he needs to go.

Who's system would work when Jameer Nelson is getting balled on by Dleaguers and Dwight Howard is getting outplayed by PIttman?? Jameer 0-10 Dwight 2-9.... 2-19 for our "captains"

Dantoni's run N gun would have worked. And he's a horrible coach.

Stan is encouraging our team to shoot 30 three pointers "Hopefully the guys see this as a wake up call". Why don't you stop allowing them to shoot 30 effing three's a game Stan! Here's some captain obvious for you. Out of the 20 missed three pointers...you make half of those from midrage and we end up with 95 points tonight. And with the extra energy from our guys not shooting 30 three pointers maybe they would have played some better defense.

rcklsscognition · Post #569 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:09 am

darthmerrick wrote:
Jamaicankid21 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Stan system is not working anymore... It's obvious he's not willing to change it, he needs to go.

Who's system would work when Jameer Nelson is getting balled on by Dleaguers and Dwight Howard is getting outplayed by PIttman?? Jameer 0-10 Dwight 2-9.... 2-19 for our "captains"

Dantoni's run N gun would have worked. And he's a horrible coach.

Stan is encouraging our team to shoot 30 three pointers "Hopefully the guys see this as a wake up call". Why don't you stop allowing them to shoot 30 effing three's a game Stan! Here's some captain obvious for you. Out of the 20 missed three pointers...you make half of those from midrage and we end up with 95 points tonight. And with the extra energy from our guys not shooting 30 three pointers maybe they would have played some better defense.

Stan has a very detailed shot selection method that has been documented and talked about numerous times. Statistically, he runs one of the most efficient systems around. Unfortunately, our players often fail the system. Stan also uses the 3 point shooters as defensive help on the fast break, they are closer to the opponent's net and have easier path to get back on defense.

AdamTheGreek · Post #570 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:11 am

Anyone blaming Stan's 'system' clearly didn't watch the game.

Jamaicankid21 · Post #571 » by **Jamaicankid21** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:13 am

Orlando scored 85 points in spite of its two captains shot shot 2-19...

SolidSnake008 · Post #572 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:14 am

Ok i get that we don't have guys that can create off the dribble i can understand the system for that...But what is stopping us from having a Mid-Range game? What's wrong with shooting the ball a little closer to the hoop stan? Because it's the most inefficient shot? imo i think if we ran more plays to get shots in the Mid-Range area shots would go in more frequently instead of hoisting it from 30 feet EVERY TIME

darthmerrick · Post #573 » by **darthmerrick** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:14 am

Why hasn't his statiscal approached worked then in two years? Because 1. It's predictable now and teams have figured out to beat us all they have to do is cut to the three point line and 2. We're shooting more of them now then we did in the past and everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy.

OrlandO · Post #574 » by **OrlandO** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:14 am

Can't believe our backup PG is Duhon.

darthmerrick · Post #575 » by **darthmerrick** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:17 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:Anyone blaming Stan's 'system' clearly didn't watch the game.

I will settle all of this Stan's not to blame crap with one more statistic for you.

What was our record after the trade when guys didn't know Stan's system? What happened after they were forced to learn Stan's system?

The Badger offense should have stayed in Wisconsin. It has no place in the NBA!

Jamaicankid21 · Post #576 » by **Jamaicankid21** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:17 am

darthmerrick wrote:Why hasn't his statiscal approached worked then in two years? Because 1. It's predictable now and teams have figured out to beat us all they have to do is cut to the three point line and 2. We're shooting more of them now then we did in the past and everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy.

We went to the ECOF two years ago... Come on.. We had 1 real bad season where we lost to the Hawks.

rcklsscognition · Post #577 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:18 am

"everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy."

Seriously? lmao

AdamTheGreek · Post #578 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:20 am

darthmerrick wrote:Why hasn't his statiscal approached worked then in two years? Because 1. It's predictable now and teams have figured out to beat us all they have to do is cut to the three point line and 2. We're shooting more of them now then we did in the past and everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy.

Well, that's one way to lose credibility.

darthmerrick · Post #579 » by **darthmerrick** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:21 am

Jamaicankid21 wrote:
darthmerrick wrote:Why hasn't his statiscal approached worked then in two years? Because 1. It's predictable now and teams have figured out to beat us all they have to do is cut to the three point line and 2. We're shooting more of them now then we did in the past and everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy.

We went to the ECOF two years ago... Come on.. We had 1 real bad season where we lost to the Hawks.

Who did we play to get to the ECF that year? What happened when Stan's system when up against a real team in the ECF? We went down 3-0. What happened when we changed it up? It was 3-2. What happened when he switched back in game six to the original plan. We lost 4-2!

Your missing my point. Stan's system has been figured out by 20 of 30 NBA teams. At some point you change it up when it doesn't work anymore. He hasn't! Man is too stubborn and keeps calling out players...

Not the players...

Post #580 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:22 am

rcklsscognition wrote:"everyone knows shooting a three pointer is freaking harder to make and expels more energy."

Seriously? lmao

@ expels more energy