Orlando Magic vs Miami Heat Pre-Season

magicman123 · Post #761 » by **magicman123** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Nash would be great this year if we are making a run at it, if not bring back reafer

TSKD000 · Post #762 » by **TSKD000** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:07 pm

I will only panic, a little, if they get blown out in OKC on Christmas Day with the same kind of effort. This team will have shooting nights like last night from time to time. They always have.

SolidSnake008 · Post #763 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:13 pm

TSKD000 wrote:I will only panic, a little, if they get blown out in OKC on Christmas Day with the same kind of effort. This team will have shooting nights like last night from time to time. They always have.

we had shooting nights like that almost every other game in the Atlanta series.....It's happening too frequently to just brush off as "one of those nights"

thelead · Post #764 » by **thelead** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:16 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:
TSKD000 wrote:I will only panic, a little, if they get blown out in OKC on Christmas Day with the same kind of effort. This team will have shooting nights like last night from time to time. They always have.

we had shooting nights like that almost every other game in the Atlanta series.....It's happening too frequently to just brush off as "one of those nights"

Not only that, I will keep saying it until it sinks in... we lose because of our defense. We couldn't stop Jamal Crawford and last night we couldn't stop two players who I NEVER heard of (I don't watch much college basketball though).

Our perimeter defense is inexcusable and unacceptable.

WeAreVenom · Post #765 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:18 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:
TSKD000 wrote:I will only panic, a little, if they get blown out in OKC on Christmas Day with the same kind of effort. This team will have shooting nights like last night from time to time. They always have.

we had shooting nights like that almost every other game in the Atlanta series.....It's happening too frequently to just brush off as "one of those nights"

It's weird, it's like we're missing even our open shots....(Jameer was practically ignored last night, and he went 0-10. Not blaming him, just saying.....)

But it happens too often to just consider it "bad luck"...

So how do you even fix that? Have people worn out their welcome here? Is it Stan? I honestly can't figure it out.

EasternMagic · Post #766 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:49 pm

if Steve Nash ever ended up on this team, I would be the first one to buy his magic jersey.. even if her were 49 years old.

T25 · Post #767 » by **T25** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:08 pm

I wish people would stop comparing this team to the "08-09 team" it's a completely different team as in players. We had speed and athleticism then. We have same system but different players.

I'm not a fan of Vangundys system but for it to work u need a good
PG preferably Nash and a good SG or SF that's athletic like Iggy.

rcklsscognition · Post #768 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:12 pm

Jameer's worst shooting night of his career, 1-10, 0-4 from 3pt, and 2-2 from the FT line, came the game before the blockbuster trades we made last year December 18th. That was when the locker room drama was at its worst, in Denver.

grayson11 · Post #769 » by **grayson11** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:37 pm

The Magic Man wrote:
grayson11 wrote:
The Magic Man wrote:The funny part about this season is that the Magic will wait till the trade deadline to trade Dwight,and teams will no the Magic are desperate because Dwight will be leaving,and they will get low ball offers for Dwight.But the Magic frontoffice is so stupid that they will let it happen.So the best thing for the Magic to do is trade Dwight now before the season starts.

So those teams w/out capspace won't get desperate knowing Dwight can't sign with them? The offers will only get better as the deadline approaches.

It want be that many offers,Dwight only said he would sign with Nets,Lakers,Mavs.So its basically a 2 team race with NJ/LA.If the Magic wait till the deadline they can kill the Bynum and Gasol trade,LA will know the Magic are desperate and can't lose D12 for nothing,so they will not overbid for D12 if its only a 2team race.

Bynum,TPE Dallas,2 1st rd for D12,Duhon
Lopez,5 1st rd for Dwight,Turk

It's a good thing the Nuggets "killed" the Knicks offer for Melo because that just got worse and worse as the Nets got involved and the deadline drew closer. We should learn from their experience and discount the thought of LA's offer getting any better.

HeartNHustle · Post #770 » by **HeartNHustle** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:58 pm

I know its just a preseason game, but I'd rather trade Howard and rebuild then watch more games like this. I'd rather have players that want to be here that play from their hearts then watch a talented players coast. Its time for Heart and Hustle 2!!!!

ADRajX · Post #771 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:59 pm

just watched the preseason game... all i could do was laugh... i've seen this same song and dance before by Otis... i know it's a preseason game, but wow... this team needs a guy like Ellis

Post #772 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:06 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:
Hilltop wrote:You obviously didn't read my post.

I could care less about the game. This team sucks either way. Hows that?

You obviously do care and put weight into the game if you're already making these assumptions

You don't get it.

I am not worried about this team because of last night's game. The result was irrelevant to me.

I am worried because the roster hasn't changed. That is the real issue here.

Post #773 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:44 pm

eyriq wrote:
Hilltop wrote:The Magic were offed in the 1st Round. A team that didn't come anywhere close to winning a championship can't be considered a championship contender in my opinion.

Why, what is YOUR criteria?

So Dallas wasn't a contender last year? Cause...

For me? Top 15 player, top 4 team in the conference in MoV.

I see where you are going with this.

I will caution you however, that not every team that gets bounced in the 1st Round has a chance of coming back to win the championship the next year just because the Mavericks did it. That's lazy logic.

EasternMagic · Post #774 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:45 pm

Hilltop wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Hilltop wrote:The Magic were offed in the 1st Round. A team that didn't come anywhere close to winning a championship can't be considered a championship contender in my opinion.

Why, what is YOUR criteria?

So Dallas wasn't a contender last year? Cause...

For me? Top 15 player, top 4 team in the conference in MoV.

I see where you are going with this.

I will caution you however, that not every team that gets bounced in the 1st Round has a chance of coming back to win the championship the next year just because the Mavericks did it. That's lazy logic.

Thank you....

Post #775 » by **eyriq** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:30 pm

Hilltop wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Hilltop wrote:The Magic were offed in the 1st Round. A team that didn't come anywhere close to winning a championship can't be considered a championship contender in my opinion.

Why, what is YOUR criteria?

So Dallas wasn't a contender last year? Cause...

For me? Top 15 player, top 4 team in the conference in MoV.

I see where you are going with this.

I will caution you however, that not every team that gets bounced in the 1st Round has a chance of coming back to win the championship the next year just because the Mavericks did it. That's lazy logic.

'Lazy Logic' appears to cut both ways in this case...

Post #776 » by **Bensational** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:49 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:
eyriq wrote:Our starting back-court was 1-12 from 3pt range. That won't happen for the rest of the calender year. What a fluke, but at least we got it out of our system in the preseason.

Thank you. The overreaction in just about every other post was giving me a headache.

it won't happen for an entire calender year but we certainly saw it happen for an entire playoff series - which is why we got knocked out.

for however many years in a row this team is going in with the same game plan and same players. if the shots don't fall, we don't win.

Post #777 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:15 pm

eyriq wrote:
Hilltop wrote:
eyriq wrote:So Dallas wasn't a contender last year? Cause...

For me? Top 15 player, top 4 team in the conference in MoV.

I see where you are going with this.

I will caution you however, that not every team that gets bounced in the 1st Round has a chance of coming back to win the championship the next year just because the Mavericks did it. That's lazy logic.

'Lazy Logic' appears to cut both ways in this case...

What is your point then?

ivDT · Post #778 » by **ivDT** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:40 pm

let's not go crazy here, folks. this team's not contending for anything with this current roster.

Post #779 » by **eyriq** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:40 pm

Hilltop wrote:What is your point then?

That you are jumping to conclusions with no substance to back them up.

Post #780 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:19 pm

eyriq wrote:
Hilltop wrote:What is your point then?

That you are jumping to conclusions with no substance to back them up.

The only substance I need to believe in that is our 1st Round buttkicking from the Hawks and a little common sense.

There is no point in arguing because you obviously have a much more generous definition of what a championship contender is. If you think we are going to be a legitimate threat for the title, then good for you. I would love for you to be right.