Nets Acquire Mehmet Okur

[BlueDawn]

We're all in for Deron and Dwight. If Dwight decides have a change of heart and leave with Deron to the Lakers (somehow) or to the Mavs. Then what can we do? We're gambling because AS OF THE MOMENT, Deron is 90% sure he will Resign, and Dwight wants to come here and play with Deron ON THE NETS. Sooner or Later. Now if our season goes horrible wrong, we miss the playoffs, Deron argues with the coach(for some reason), and he leaves and Dwight follows; Then we will at least have a lottery pick in the draft and Brook Lopez back with some young players. Trading Deron to the Lakers will be pointless. We rather wait and take our chances in the offseason if it gets to that point.

[KMartsCrew]

Woj said it best during a radio interview some days ago: even if we miss out on Dwight there is no way the Nets trade Deron, they'd rather roll the dice in free agency. Sorry for these delusional Lakers homers.

[Serpo]

Do you not understand or are not willing to get it through ur head. FORGET ABOUT THE LAKERS.

If Deron wants to walk at the end of the season, the Nets are in a no win situation so they need to trade him to get something back in return. Please name me teams that Deron will sign with that is willing to give back young talent and picks like you just stated?

Is Minny going to give you Rubio, Derek Williams, Wesley, Love, etc. for Deron when they know he wont resign.

So that leaves the Mavs of course who have no favorable pieces whether young or old to trade.

What other team would Willaims resign with? The lakers were bought up because that is a POSSIBLE place Deron would like to stay with and they happen to have a Pau gasol who Nets fans may not want in a rebuilding phase but most probably will be the best assest to trade for. Pau can either be kept or traded away for those young pieces.

Understand? This is not NBA 2k12 where players have no say where they want to be traded when there on there last year of their current contract...

What you don't understand is that what for example the Lakers have to offer is actually worse then just letting Deron walk . Trading for something just for the sake of getting something that won't help in the long run is totally pointless. The Nets right now have a team filled with short term contracts and young guys so that they can either try and get a contending team next season with all the capspace OR if for some reason that fails they'll be able to totally rebuild from scratch. There is not going something in the middle because that'd be pointless.

Deron is not getting traded unless we know he leaves AND he nets a good rebuilding package .

[jeff1624]

Fine, we'll trade you Deron for Steve Blake, Luke Walton and Matt Barnes. Now go away.

[NyCeEvO]

Do you not understand or are not willing to get it through ur head. FORGET ABOUT THE LAKERS.

If Deron wants to walk at the end of the season, the Nets are in a no win situation so they need to trade him to get something back in return. Please name me teams that Deron will sign with that is willing to give back young talent and picks like you just stated?

Is Minny going to give you Rubio, Derek Williams, Wesley, Love, etc. for Deron when they know he wont resign.

So that leaves the Mavs of course who have no favorable pieces whether young or old to trade.

What other team would Willaims resign with? The lakers were bought up because that is a POSSIBLE place Deron would like to stay with and they happen to have a Pau gasol who Nets fans may not want in a rebuilding phase but most probably will be the best assest to trade for. Pau can either be kept or traded away for those young pieces.

Understand? This is not NBA 2k12 where players have no say where they want to be traded when there on there last year of their current contract...

What you don't understand is that what for example the Lakers have to is actually worse then just letting Deron walk . Trading for something just for the sake of getting something that won't help in the long run is totally pointless. The Nets right now have a team filled with short term contracts and young guys so that they can either try and get a contending team next season with all the capspace OR if for some reason that fails they'll be able to totally rebuild from scratch. There is not going something in the middle because that'd be pointless.

Deron is not getting traded unless we know he leaves AND he nets a good rebuilding package .

Thank you Serpo.

Bimmer, you are the one that doesn't seem to get it. The Nets aren't just going to get something just because D-Will says he's leaving.

You're saying that we won't be able to trade a young, allstar PG for picks and young assets but we'd able to do that with a 30+ year old PF with a humungous contract? Yeah...ok

Pau Gasol brings us closer to be a middle team, not a 1st overall pick, lottery team. We'd rather sell Brooklyn on a young, talented prospect that we obtain through the draft rather than Gasol.

If Miami didn't do this same thing with Wade, maybe our front office might be more hesitant. But Miami paved the way and showed everyone that just because you star player has the ability to leave doesn't mean you're out of the equation.

Get as much cap space as you can and if he likes the organization enough, he'll come back and bring some friends with him. This is what we expect to happen. D-Will has lunch with Billy King almost everyday for crying out loud. Do you honestly think that they haven't played this scenario out many times already.

The Nets are used to losing and if there's one thing that we're good at, it's understanding how to be bad. We'd rather suck and get a more lottery ping pong balls than have Pau Gasol on our team and pretend that we're competing when we're clearly not.

[Ronito]

Billy King said it best: If a star wants to leave, there's nothing you can do about it. Luckily we're moving into a billion dollar arena in the largest market with an owner everyone seems to want to play for. If DWill leaves/Dwight doesn't come, there'll be someone else.

[bimmer100]

Nets fans still do not understand. Forget about young assets and picks right now, Deron will not SIGN with a team other than the Nets if they get Howard or probably the Lakers/Dallas.

So lets see both scenarios

A - Let Deron walk as most of you non-thinking fans are saying and be mediocre get a lottery pick

b- Trade for someone with value such as Pau Gasol even if he isnt part of a rebuilding core. Then flip Gasol for a TPE or young talent plus picks (Gasol can get you a top 10 pick, last year Minny was offering #2). Now your still a lottery team if you do that but you have two lottery picks or a lottery pick plus young talent. Same scenario as A but you get more than nothing. You don't need to stay with Gasol.

You fans should know best especially with what happened with Okur. The Jazz dumped him for a TPE and pick. However Okur was worthless, Pau Gasol can bring you another top 10 pick plus your lottery. So even if you do not want Gasol to step on the court for you, you can still trade him for something and IN THE END YOU HAVE SOMETHING where as in case A how most nets fans are saying would HAVE NOTHING other than your lottery pick which you would still have in scenario B.

Now to the people saying the Nets will just play it out. Lets say Howard goes to the Lakers before the deadline, do you really think Deron is going to sign with the Nets? No way, this is not the same situation as Miami because you had top flight superstars that offseason. This offseason you wont aside from Deron and Howard, and in this case Dwight is in LA. SO billy must trade Deron...

[Rich Rane]

A - Let Deron walk as most of you non-thinking fans are saying and be mediocre get a lottery pick

b- Trade for someone with value such as Pau Gasol even if he isnt part of a rebuilding core. Then flip Gasol for a TPE or young talent plus picks (Gasol can get you a top 10 pick, last year Minny was offering #2). Now your still a lottery team if you do that but you have two lottery picks or a lottery pick plus young talent. Same scenario as A but you get more than nothing. You don't need to stay with Gasol.

You fans should know best especially with what happened with Okur. The Jazz dumped him for a TPE and pick. However Okur was worthless, Pau Gasol can bring you another top 10 pick plus your lottery. So even if you do not want Gasol to step on the court for you, you can still trade him for something and IN THE END YOU HAVE SOMETHING where as in case A how most nets fans are saying would HAVE NOTHING other than your lottery pick which you would still have in scenario B.

In A, the Nets risk Deron Williams in free agency. If Howard makes it to free agency, the Nets try to sign both. If Howard doesn't, they let him walk and enter next season as a bottom of the league team starting rebuilding, much better than a mediocre team in the middle of the league or what would happen in Scenario B.

In B, if the Nets for some reason somehow swing Deron for Gasol, it would be a deadline deal as they monitor the Howard situation. Gasol would keep the Nets mediocre and trade him in the offseason leaving the Nets with a mediocre pick in the draft and paying him his salary for this season (Not to mention, it's not even a given the Nets find a great suitor for Gasol and the rest of his contract). With Deron away and if you say Howard is traded, not only is this season wasted, but the Nets waste a very solid draft and money.

[KMartsCrew]

Lol this troll just won't give up.

Look, even if Howard gets traded to LA we'll roll the dice in free agency. Because Howard WILL absolutely, 100% sure hit free agency no matter where he's traded to, it makes the most sense from a financial standpoint as opposed to extending prior to the summer, AND he is NOT that hot on the Lakers. He prefers the Nets over the Lakers, can you take your homer glasses off and get that through your head once and for all? So yes we'd roll the dice on that or DWill preferring more money and a 24 yr old Lopez plus loads of cap space over a 34 yr old Dirk and 30M less rather than trading Williams for a 31 yr old Gasol who has 3 yrs left in his contract at around 19M per and who won't be happy playing for a rebuilding team (word is he didn't like getting traded to HOU). Are you even freakin' serious?

[vincecarter4pres]

If Dwight is traded to LAL before the deadline, I could see a so so chance Deron is dealt, but it's certainly not going to be to LAL to create a freakin' dynasty ROLF.

If we explore a deal it will be something like OKC, Golden State, Boston, Memphis or Portland even.

[bimmer100]

If Dwight is traded to LAL before the deadline, I could see a so so chance Deron is dealt, but it's certainly not going to be to LAL to create a freakin' dynasty ROLF.

If we explore a deal it will be something like OKC, Golden State, Boston, Memphis or Portland even.

I wont bother wasting my time answering the other two guys who wrote before you because its like beating on a dead horse.

However you quite understand the situation. But your forgetting an important aspect. Stephen A Smith spent 5min trying to get a knuckle head to understand my position but the guy wouldnt listen so he hung up on him. The issue is what are teams going to give up for Deron if they have no reason to believe that Deron would resign in the offseason.

Lets take your examples

OKC - Would Deron be happy in Oklahoma, has he ever mentioned it as a possibility? Would OKC give up westbrook for example if they were not sure of Deron resigning? Is OKC even interested if they werent interested in Chris Paul.

Golden State - They were reluctant to give Curry because of MY SAME POINT. There was no guarantee of Deron resigning unless deron says I want to go to Oakland

Boston - Very interested. Here we go. I do infact think Boston would give up Rondo because they also have cap space to go after another free agent such as howard since Ray and KG are off the books

Memphis and Portland - Will Dwill want to really play in those cities? Enough said.

So as you have stated and others dont want to understand

If Dwight is traded to another team of his choosing before deadline, do the Nets really believe deron will stay or would they be forced to trade him for something....

One thing is for sure, it will be a very interesting couple of months in the NBA world...

[treiz]

^What you don't seem to understand is that it's called an "all-in" for a reason don't forget we traded the farm for Deron without him signing an extension, if Deron walks he walks and we can go the season after and tank the crap out of the league and hopefully get a top prospect that can put us back on the map. Here's the part you don't seem to understand, trading Deron for Pau or whoever in LAL would be pointless for two reasons:

a) He's in his 30s, not exactly a rebuilding tool

b) He has 3 years left on his hefty contract, again, not a rebuilding tool

So we're basically giving you guys another chance of a 3-peat, and you're giving us assets that we have no use for as a rebuilding team? Can't you see how pointless that is from our perspective.

Those teams were chosen because they have the ideal assets that we would desire should we trade Deron, now out of those teams, the only team I think he signs for is OKC for obvious reasons of Durant, Harden and a very good GM in Presti being there.

The problem with the Dwight situation is that the most ideal team that he can be traded to is either us or LA, OKC could jump in but they didn't want to give up Westbrook for Paul and I feel it'll be the same situation should they pursue Howard, Westbrook will have to be involved. Therefore, if our 2 teams are the only teams in the race then that makes it easier to plan for

[VCRJKidd15]

i feel like most of this bimmer dude's post have been more about the Nets then the Lakers and im confused as to why

[JKNICKS67]

solid pick up- signed sympathetic knick fan

[FGump]

When does the MLE rule kick in?

What is the MLE rule you're talking about?

[NyCeEvO]

i feel like most of this bimmer dude's post have been more about the Nets then the Lakers and im confused as to why

He's basically trying to show that through a twisted sense of logic and through a refusal to acknowledge that there are plenty of other teams that would make changes to their teams to accommodate Deron, that it is a fact that the Nets will trade Deron to LAL for Pau Gasol. As much as he says, he's not talking about the Lakers, he clearly is talking through his Aviator homer glasses on.

[FGump]

The idea that NJ would trade DWill is absurd. Unless he says he's leaving in the summer "no matter what," it has a 0% chance of happening. Other GMs truly dont even make a call to ask something so obvious.

[NyCeEvO]

We've been trying to tell him that but he's on that level of trolling where he listens to no one and insists that everyone should listen to him.

[FGump]

One thing is for sure, it will be a very interesting couple of months in the NBA world...

I don't buy your DWill scenarios. Unless he pushes for a trade, the Nets aren't going to be talking to anyone.

And yes the NBA is interesting - loved the way Stern canceled that CP3-to-the Lakers trade, didn't you? Loved the way the Lakers front office panicked and gave away Odom to Dallas the next day, too! Great times for every NBA fan!