The Tank 11'12 thread.

Special-K · Post #21 » by **Special-K** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:40 pm

Glass ankle Curry has the quickest release in the NBA and hes actually a good PG last time I checked. Trading Curry for anyone not named Dwight Howard is a no go.

old rem · Post #22 » by **old rem** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:29 pm

Coxy wrote:
Motivated-Baron wrote:
shazam_guy wrote:Just tell me two Warriors years in the last twenty that people weren't rooting for the tank from the earliest part of the season. And it's got us what, exactly? A cluster of seventh and ninth and whatnot draft picks and continued mediocrity. Every big thing that needed to happen with this franchise has happened in the last couple of years. Now I'm going to give it a chance because I'm bored with despair.

Because Warrior fans rooting for tanking means the Warriors actually tanked?

Lol, exactly. I doubt the Warriors have ever actually tanked. Maybe Nellie tried to get us up a few spots once or twice, but I doubt we've ever actually tanked.

Amazing that we beat the Bulls, however we seem to have their number for some strange reason.

The strange reason lately is that we D D Rose and make him a Not Valuable Player.

Nobody really tanks until mid March. The coaches and players are not okay with taking a dive.
When it's done, it's subtle...and the coach is secure in his job. You play your young guys who need minutes. In some cases...that does not end up with more losses. You get more development but don't really change draft slot. Trotting out scrubs and stiffs or telling players to F-up...that's just not done.

old rem · Post #23 » by **old rem** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:31 pm

Special-K wrote:Glass ankle Curry has the quickest release in the NBA and hes actually a good PG last time I checked. Trading Curry for anyone not named Dwight Howard is a no go.

When the dust settled last night....Glass beat MVP in about any way.

Don't panic.

KR4 · Post #24 » by **KR4** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:05 pm

Having a conscious (or subconscious) effort to tank, always seems to be paired with bad karma/luck.

Warriorfan · Post #25 » by **Warriorfan** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:38 pm

Don't think this team makes the playoffs but would have to tank a bit to be first 7 picks for lotto protection .

Post #26 » by **floppymoose** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:39 pm

The main problem with the tank this season is that some teams that normally wouldn't compete with us are in position to: Utah, Houston, Phoenix, New Orleans.

The Warriors could really suck this season and still end up 9th in the west.

Jester_ · Post #27 » by **Jester_** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:00 pm

floppymoose wrote:The main problem with the tank this season is that some teams that normally wouldn't compete with us are in position to: Utah, Houston, Phoenix, New Orleans.

The Warriors could really suck this season and still end up 9th in the west.

Yeah, the West is primed for the taking at this point. May as well raise the value of our disenfranchised franchise, if nothing else, so that sought-after free agents may consider us on more than just a whim.

Mylie10 · Post #28 » by **Mylie10** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:14 pm

Coxy wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Why is it amazing?

You need to start watching games.

Tanks threads after 1 game = Coxy's a drama queen

Cyrus, your lack of foresight is showing.

Yeah because you're so right, so often :lol:

I'd just like you to rest your neck for at least the first month. Lets let these guys play together and learn each other, learn the defense and how its to be played.

It takes time with a new coaching staff before guys fully understand and implement how things are supposed to go. Monta, Curry, Wright, and Lee have a pretty good idea of where the other is on the floor and they play off of each other well now, but it's gonna take time for the rest of the roster to be in tune.

Just rest your Rush (no pun intended) to try and be funny with your tank thread.

What this team really needs is to find a deal to grab a first round pick since we don't have one. Why don't you focus on that if it aint gonna be about how well or bad the team is ACTUALLY PLAYING?

Warriorfan · Post #29 » by **Warriorfan** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:09 pm

We can't even do tanking right. Not bad enough to get good lotto pick not good enough to make playoffs worst postion to be in.

Coxy · Post #30 » by **Coxy** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:34 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
Coxy wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:Why is it amazing?

You need to start watching games.

Tanks threads after 1 game = Coxy's a drama queen

Cyrus, your lack of foresight is showing.

Yeah because you're so right, so often

I'd just like you to rest your neck for at least the first month. Lets let these guys play together and learn each other, learn the defense and how its to be played.

It takes time with a new coaching staff before guys fully understand and implement how things are supposed to go. Monta, Curry, Wright, and Lee have a pretty good idea of where the other is on the floor and they play off of each other well now, but it's gonna take time for the rest of the roster to be in tune.

Just rest your Rush (no pun intended) to try and be funny with your tank thread.

What this team really needs is to find a deal to grab a first round pick since we don't have one. Why don't you focus on that if it aint gonna be about how well or bad the team is ACTUALLY PLAYING?

How do we get that 1st? I think we'd have to Curry to do it, which would kind of be a notion with tanking in a way.

The Maestro · Post #31 » by **The Maestro** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 pm

I'm ok with trading Curry as long as we trade everyone else as well for short contracts and as many picks as possible (Curry can get us a player and a top pick). If we're going to just trade Curry for a pick and keep the rest of the roster than that's a no-go for me unless we trade him for a superstar.

I think Curry is going to be a big time player and would prefer to build around him. He'll be a top 10 pg in the very near future. We could still trade everyone and tank, keep our pick and build around that pick, Curry and the current rookies.

This first month will tell us a lot.

Left*My*Heart · Post #32 » by **Left*My*Heart** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:50 pm

Curry for a non-protected first from a lottery team works for me!

whocurrz · Post #33 » by **whocurrz** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:10 pm

If one of our young guys besides Curry can look to have all star "potential" we could package him with Kwame for a 1st rounder. There will be lots of teams trying to undo their mistakes or get under the cap for FA next summer. Or just people who want to trade a player they see as toxic (Cavs got #1 pick for taking on Baron's contract) We don't need a pick from New Orleans to get a good player, as it is a very deep draft. Good players like Tyler Zeller who would be a top 10 pick last year who could fall to near 20. Also there are some solid international guys coming next year who will be overshadowed by this huge influx of college talent.

And again, if we tank, we need to have a bottom 4 record to guarantee our pick doesn't go to the Jazz. Usually at least one team jumps up in the lotto which will push us down. And unless we get Drummond (which is still only a very small chance) there's no one worth trading Curry for. I mean the guy was decently close to a quadruple double the other night against a top 3 defensive team!

Jester_ · Post #34 » by **Jester_** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:26 am

Curry for a first-rounder is a really, really dumb idea. There are only a handful of players in this draft who have a higher ceiling than Curry, and those are bigs who are all high-potential, low-floor types. Big men with great potential have a very low success rate. For every Dwight Howard you've got 3 or 4 Kwame/Darko/Randolph, etc.

Stephen Curry is a sure thing. He's arguably a top 3 point guard in the West right now, and if his last game is an indication of anything, he's ready for a sophomore breakout that's typical for guards.

The Maestro · Post #35 » by **The Maestro** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:33 am

Jester_ wrote:Curry for a first-rounder is a really, really dumb idea. There are only a handful of players in this draft who have a higher ceiling than Curry, and those are bigs who are all high-potential, low-floor types. Big men with great potential have a very low success rate. For every Dwight Howard you've got 3 or 4 Kwame/Darko/Randolph, etc.

Stephen Curry is a sure thing. He's arguably a top 3 point guard in the West right now, and if his last game is an indication of anything, he's ready for a sophomore breakout that's typical for guards.

The only thing that worries me about Curry is that ankle. He's already our best player and will be an elite pg very soon but that ankle could really start to hold back his career. He's got to fix that problem.

Post #36 » by **FNQ** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:24 am

I think Lacob's proven himself enough in the office personnel dept... find those guys that made Grant Hill play 80 games and throw piles of money at them

Frank Mulely · Post #37 » by **Frank Mulely** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:28 am

I think we all need to come to terms with reality which is a franchise that trades randolph for the opportunity to pay lee 80M and wastes its amnesty on charlie bell AND pays kwame 7M ain't gonna be tanking anytime soon.

Post #38 » by **Sleepy51** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:35 am

F

this stupid thread in the ear.

Trading Curry for an indeterminate draft pick that historically, 9 times out of 10 won't be he player Curry is displays an astonishing lack of sense, perspective, sobriety and/or basketball watching acumen.

This is a playoff team this year and the 2nd youngest team in the league. You build on that you don't piss on it... unless you are a scumbag tax cheat snKe oil salesman of an owner who knows he can sell dumb fans wolf tickets to to the draft lottery show for a couple of decades instead of figuring out how to field a decent product.

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Mylie10 · Post #39 » by **Mylie10** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:41 am

Sleepy51 wrote:F this stupid thread in the ear.

This is a playoff team this year and the 2nd youngest team in the league. You build on that you don't piss on it... unless you are a scumbag tax cheat snKe oil salesman of an owner who knows he can sell dumb fans wolf tickets to to the draft lottery show for a couple of decades instead of figuring out how to field a decent product.

[/thread kicked in snatch]

With the addition of Fesenko we are now the youngest team in the league.....Now all we need is an effing Superstar!

Post #40 » by **floppymoose** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:53 am

As a long proponent of the rebuild around Curry, I will admit that if the Warriors can make the playoffs *without* signing up for a DeAndre Jordan-style contract along the way, I'm all for it. If we aren't going to hurt our position for the future (aside from the draft pick), then I'm cool with going for it. Playoffs would be fun.