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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#21 » by Tru3_Heat » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:38 pm

I think too many of you guys just watch the box score and keep track of player stats... Smh... Cliché alert guys, but "basketball is a game of runs." Besides the turnovers, we need to work on that, we played well. Boston threw a zone at us, and we adjusted, it might not have shown on the box score because if you were actually watching the game, players were missing open shots. It happens. But what I noticed the most was that the Big 3 never got uncomfortable or worried when there lead was dwindling. These guys are confident! They obviously still got a lot more to show
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#22 » by CablexDeadpool » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:57 pm

Tru3_Heat wrote:I think too many of you guys just watch the box score and keep track of player stats... Smh... Cliché alert guys, but "basketball is a game of runs." Besides the turnovers, we need to work on that, we played well. Boston threw a zone at us, and we adjusted, it might not have shown on the box score because if you were actually watching the game, players were missing open shots. It happens. But what I noticed the most was that the Big 3 never got uncomfortable or worried when there lead was dwindling. These guys are confident! They obviously still got a lot more to show



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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#23 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:09 pm

Even with that run, we still didn't see Lebron and Wade throwing up hero ball 3s, and they were working the ball around the perimeter looking for the good shot. That's a BIG change from how we dealt with pressure last year.
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Post#24 » by MadPT » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:28 pm

After sleeping on it I am glad the game played out that way. It let the Heat know they still have a ton of work to do on the offense, and it was good to see he Heat close out the last 2 minutes strong regardless of who took the shots. Not to mention it was fun as hell to see Cole hit those big shots.

There is a lot of fair criticism that could be said about the Heat in the second half but the bottom line is last year they lose that game and this year they won it. Hopefully that is a trend.
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#25 » by ndnow » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:29 pm

It's not 2 games it's 4 games now including both our preseason openers. Seems to be the zone that is killing us. Lebron and Wade go into post up mode at the 3 point line and chuck up shots, I don't understand it at all. We have 2 of the best 3 point shooters in the league and they have no idea how to use them. James Jones wasn't missing yesterday, just get him a shot damnit!
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Post#26 » by canefandynasty » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:30 am

Yeah, it's getting pretty ridiculous
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Post#27 » by TRG » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:42 am

Lmao nice bump.

Giving up large leads to lesser skilled teams is going to haunt this team to their grave I swear. >.>

I guess saying "I told you so" is a bit inappropriate at the time so ehhh just **** it. :lol:
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#28 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:56 am

Well, once again it's given up by the 3 ball.

They will never learn to protect 3 point shooters.

It's like they don't know 2 > 3
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Post#29 » by This IsMy House » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:06 am

It was a problem last year. It was a SERIOUS problem in the Finals. Now, I don't even know what to call it. An epidemic? Don't want to be radical, but it kind of is. Everytime they get a big league, I expect them to blow it at some point. I don't know what it is, they just seem to just get complacent and not really care whats going on. They stand around and take stupid shots, and fall asleep on defense. I don't get it all. You'd think after that epic collapse in game 2 of the Finals, that they'd say OK NEVER AGAIN! And I know sometimes teams just get hot, but it seems to happen too often for the Heat.
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Post#30 » by Pimpwerx » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:11 am

Not a big deal. We had Bosh sitting in the closing moments of the 4th. We didn't go to James Jones or Norris Cole to hit 3s and defend the hot hand, respectively. There were multiple options available that Spo didn't use.

He seemed annoyed in the post-game by the obvious things, like turnovers and poor defense. I can't fault that. Fix those and we win. Hit those FTs and we win. Whatever the case, we're 8-2. Step back from the ledge. PEACE.
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#31 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:13 am

Heat should have called some plays, lobs, something. They didn't. Idk if they didn't practice them or something, but they didn't do anything.

LBJ taking 2 3's when his goal is to not hit 3's? Really?

And this Heat team would have loss 3 more games by giving up huge leads if they didn't get bailed out at the end.

Not this time.

8-2 is not bad lol.
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#32 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:28 pm

It is what it is. The team just has to learn to stay in attack, and keep with it's principles. It's a teachable moment for Spo. We lost the game because we stopped playing our game, and started playing iso Hero ball for the first time this year. We also **** the bed on defense again.

We're definitely in early season form on the defensive end. Hopefully tonight was a wake up call that we need to actively fight the bad habits from last year to get better.

Full credit to the Warriors for not giving up though. I don't get why the Heat think teams would. Even if we are up 30 teams think they can come back on us. Playing us is usually the biggest game of the year for some of these bad teams, so all their fans are there and going crazy--they're not going to give up on us. We just gotta play our game.

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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#33 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:31 pm

We also need to learn that when things are going against us, the play we need to run is Lebron into the post. Not the high post. Not the 3 point line. The LOW post. We almost always score off that, or get a really good look. That should be our default attack. If Lebron isn't in the game, we should got to Wade in the post. Both of these guys have really gotten better at their post game, and that's a much higher percentage play against an entrenched D when we are struggling than passing to UD or Bosh for long jumpers.
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#34 » by bengtc » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:16 pm

Heat also have a problem boxing out...Bosh is the softest powerforward in the league when it comes to rebounding
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#35 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:24 pm

There was a lot of ball watching for sure. I don't know if Bosh is the softest. Amare is pretty bad too when it comes to rebounding.

He was really bad last night though that's for sure. David Lee was eating his lunch. Even Haslem was having trouble getting boards.

Incidentally, we would have won that game if Haslem hadn't slept with the refs wife the night before or something. That dude could NOT get a call last night. It was crazy. And then that technical ended up being a huge thing.
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Re: Heat having HUGE problems maintaining large leads 

Post#36 » by banghouse » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:36 pm

the problem is they need a post presence to throw the ball into when big leads are established to slow the game down and also provide rest ...or the other alternative when leads are established put bosh at the five and lebron at the four battier at the three wade 2 and chalmers...bosh at the 5 would draw out their center and lebron can take any four in the leauge..opens up driving lanes so that clogging the paint ish is a wrap!!!! just call me Black Riley

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