Week 17 Non-Packers

LUKE23 · Post #1 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:08 pm

Games of note:

DAL @ NYG: winner gets #4 seed, loser goes home. Go Dallas.
SF @ STL: win by Niners locks up #2 seed. Go San Fran.
CAR @ NO: NO can get #2 seed with win and SF loss, locked in to #3 with loss. Go Carolina.
TB @ ATL: ATL is in playoffs, can get #5 with win and DET loss. Go Atlanta.

Haven't even looked at the AFC.

Post #2 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:15 pm

This is why I want to beat Detroit, make them go to New Orleans because Atlanta should win easily.

Kerb Hohl · Post #3 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:05 pm

The most pivotal game is Baltimore/Cincy.

Baltimore wins they get a bye and chaos reigns among 4 teams for a Wild Card spot.

Cincy wins and they clinch, Pittsburgh likely gets the bye if they can win.

FAH1223 · Post #4 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:39 am

GrendonJennings wrote:The most pivotal game is Baltimore/Cincy.

Baltimore wins they get a bye and chaos reigns among 4 teams for a Wild Card spot.

Cincy wins and they clinch, Pittsburgh likely gets the bye if they can win.

If that happens, Baltimore will NOT beat Pittsburgh on the road in the playoffs :lol:

Same old story again

We have to beat Detroit so they can play New Orleans in the 1st round. 8-)

RIPskaterdude · Post #5 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:13 am

Hey guys, due to injures, the Niners may be starting Brett Swain this weekend. Since he formerly played for your team, and even started a game against the Patriots (last season?), what are your thoughts on him?

Mags FTW · Post #6 » by **Mags FTW** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:36 pm

Good special teamer, and that's about it. He was the 4th WR in the Super Bowl after Driver went down with an injury. Was targeted twice with no receptions. Don't expect much.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #7 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:53 pm

Was never a fan of Swain as a WR. We had about 7 or 8 better WRs in camp this year.

BUCKnation · Post #8 » by **BUCKnation** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:38 pm

lulz at teams with no WRs

Post #9 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:18 pm

King has a preview of what could be the biggest game in a decade by a reminder of what happened to the Packers over 29 years ago. It's mind boggling to think about.

On Dec. 18, 1988, the Green Bay Packers took the field to play the Phoenix Cardinals (yes, they weren't always the Arizona Cardinals) at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Ariz., knowing exactly what their fate was. The two teams in competition with Green Bay for the top three picks of the draft, Dallas and Detroit, lost earlier in the day. So the Lions now stood at 4-12 and Dallas at 3-13.

Green Bay, 3-12, took the field knowing if they lost, they'd be tied with Dallas for the worst record in the league. But because the Pack would own the draft tiebreaker -- their foes would have a lower winning percentage than the Cowboys' -- a loss in Tempe to the 7-8 Cards would hand the Packers the first pick in the 1989 draft ... and mean Green Bay, in need of a long-term quarterback with Don Majkowski starting, would almost certain pick UCLA quarterback Troy Aikman. The Cowboys already were drooling over Aikman.

The Packers couldn't even lose right. Ron Pitts, then Green Bay's return man and now FOX analyst, returned a first-quarter punt 63 yards for a touchdown to start the scoring. Clint Didier, the former Redskin tight end, finished the scoring with a TD catch from Majkowski, and the Pack won, 26-17.

The Packers lost the number one pick. The top five picks in the draft the following spring:

1. Dallas, Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA
2. Green Bay, Tony Mandarich, T, Michigan State
3. Detroit, Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma State
4. Kansas City, Derrick Thomas, LB, Alabama
5. Atlanta, Deion Sanders, CB, Florida State

Five picks. Four Hall of Famers and Mandarich, one of the biggest busts in draft history.

Imagine how history would have been changed if the Packers just did what they should have done that day in Tempe and lost. Aikman a Packer. Barry Sanders, most likely, a Cowboy. And who knows what happens with the rest of the draft. But think further. With Aikman, the Packers likely wouldn't have been the pathetic team that hired Ron Wolf late in 1991 to be the GM. And Mike Holmgren likely wouldn't have been hired. And surely Brett Favre wouldn't have arrived in trade early in 1992.

"Wow,'' Jacksonville interim coach Mel Tucker Thursday afternoon. "Amazing. I never knew that. That makes you think."

Most amazing about the whole story is what would have happened to Favre. Wolf loved him. The first thing he did after hiring Holmgren was trade for Favre. At the time, the Falcons were fed up with their 1991 second-rounder. He'd ballooned to 248 pounds after a rookie season on the bench and out on the town. Is it possible that he'd have stayed on the bench behind Chris Miller and Billy Joe Tolliver, and maybe a couple of years later behind Bobby Hebert when he was acquired ... or would Jerry Glanville and offensive coordinator June Jones have given Favre a shot at some point to win the starting job?

So here we are, 23 years later, with three teams vying for position in the top three of the 2012 draft ... with as much or more at stake than there was back then.

And with no one playing the games Sunday seeming to care.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... z1i3iclLQC

Touchpass · Post #10 » by **Touchpass** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:40 pm

Mind blown. Good read.

Post #11 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:49 pm

And at the time most Packer fans were fine winning that game. We wanted Mandarich. Seriously.

SheedsWeed · Post #12 » by **SheedsWeed** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:15 am

Cam Newton only has to get 107 yards to have 4,000 passing yards for the year. Honestly, I didn't see him panning out like this. At least not this fast. What a player.

Mags FTW · Post #13 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:20 am

Who wants a cock punch?

MickeyDavis wrote:

rilamann · Post #14 » by **rilamann** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:24 pm

The game I am most concerned about and will really be keeping my eye on is the 49ers@Rams game.

I think at the end of the day the Packers will not lose at Lambeau in the playoffs regardless who gets what seed.

But I'm gonna feel a lot more confident (like all of us) if the Saints are the #3 seed and the 49ers the #2 seed.

And you wouldn't expect the 49ers to lose to the Rams,but you never know in the NFL.

Remember this is the same Rams team that kicked the **** out of the Saints earlier in the year.

LUKE23 · Post #15 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 6:21 pm

Rams up 7-0, Saints tied 7-7, don't **** this up Niners.

rilamann · Post #16 » by **rilamann** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 6:23 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Rams up 7-0, Saints tied 7-7, don't **** this up Niners.

Maybe I'm just a paranoid but I've had a bad feeling all week about the 49ers blowing this game.

RIPskaterdude · Post #17 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 6:37 pm

7-7 in Niners/Rams game.

LUKE23 · Post #18 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 6:40 pm

Vikings about to worsen their draft pick again. Love it.

LUKE23 · Post #19 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 6:45 pm

14-7 Niners.

LUKE23 · Post #20 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Jan 1, 2012 7:23 pm

20-7 Niners.