Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3

Loso04 · Post #681 » by **Loso04** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:09 pm

May have been posted before, but MKG is having a beast of a game, 23pts 17rebs 1ast. I'm not sure what the knock on this guy is,he has a very high motor and thats more than I can say for the spot up shooter Barnes.

Pseudonym · Post #682 » by **Pseudonym** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:11 pm

Davis is such a defensive force.

MKG on pace for a 20/20 game.

Dr Positivity · Post #683 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:11 pm

I'm still not sold on his upside but MKG would certainly be an excellent fit if we're not picking top 5

HomieOmey · Post #684 » by **HomieOmey** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:15 pm

Seems like I've missed a lot in the prospect world. Never even heard of Lamb, but seems to be a consensus top 5 pick now!

Young_Buc · Post #685 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:18 pm

Davis 2nd half numbers are insane. Him next to Val would make us a force.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #686 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:21 pm

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is proving to be a big-game player. If develops a consistent perimeter game, he's going to be scary good. He's got everything else imo.

Brinbe · Post #687 » by **Brinbe** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:22 pm

Holy Christ @ MKG's line

And he's already not too shabby from the outside. Not quite at Barnes' level, sure, but 35% as a frosh isn't too bad.

dagger · Post #688 » by **dagger** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:26 pm

HomieOmey wrote:Seems like I've missed a lot in the prospect world. Never even heard of Lamb, but seems to be a consensus top 5 pick now!

Consensus of this board, perhaps, but not yet the mock drafts.

My take is that today is a great day for the Raptors because several of the high end prospects did more than just flash the occasional brilliance in their strongest area. Today, Kidd-Gilchrist, Drummond, Davis, etc, showed game-changing abilities against good opponents. That's very encouraging for the depth of this draft. If we ended up, say, fifth again, we might not do much worse than the team drafting first overall.

Young_Buc · Post #689 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:27 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:I'm still not sold on his upside but MKG would certainly be an excellent fit if we're not picking top 5

Id say he's played his way into the top 5

Davis
Drummond

Lamb
MKG

Jones 3
Barnes
Beal

Miller
Sullinger
The rest

CunningLinguist · Post #690 » by **CunningLinguist** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:27 pm

Loso04 wrote:May have been posted before, but MKG is having a beast of a game, 23pts 17rebs 1ast. I'm not sure what the knock on this guy is,he has a very high motor and thats more than I can say for the spot up shooter Barnes.

For the last time. For the very last time. Barnes is not just a spot up shooter.

Post #691 » by **5DOM** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:29 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is proving to be a big-game player. If develops a consistent perimeter game, he's going to be scary good. He's got everything else imo.

Yeah he seems to show up in big games

Post #692 » by **5DOM** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:30 pm

CunningLinguist wrote:
Loso04 wrote:May have been posted before, but MKG is having a beast of a game, 23pts 17rebs 1ast. I'm not sure what the knock on this guy is,he has a very high motor and thats more than I can say for the spot up shooter Barnes.

For the last time. For the very last time. Barnes is not just a spot up shooter.

For the last time, he's been neither efficient nor effective with his other moves.

Young_Buc · Post #693 » by **Young_Buc** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:30 pm

MKG seems to have gotten stronger as the years progressed. Whats his stats for the last 6 or 7 games?

Marlo Stanfield · Post #694 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:53 pm

Holyyyy crap! MKG was an absolute BEAST today. Watching that Kentucky game I couldn't help but get excited at the possibilities. I see MKG and Davis doing so well and wonder if anyone would deal a top pick for Ed who's proven himself in the NBA. Davis just looks like he's gonna Tim Duncan the league to me. Obviously Timmy was much more complete, don't get me wrong, but I mean in terms of titles. I think Davis can lead a team to 4 or 5.

Then you add MKG into the mix and you got a defensive force named the Raptors for years to come. Imagine starting a lineup with MKG, Davis and Val on the front line? How will people score on you? And even if we lose out on MKG I still believe Jeremy Lamb will be an absolute baller in the NBA.

Now obviously I'm dreaming, but why not?

nahom1319 · Post #695 » by **nahom1319** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:57 pm

15.8 pts 7.1 rbs 3ast 1 blk 1 stl over the last six not including today

Loso04 · Post #696 » by **Loso04** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:10 pm

Young_Buc wrote:MKG seems to have gotten stronger as the years progressed. Whats his stats for the last 6 or 7 games?

Sat 12/1vsCHATTANOOGA PF3 FGM-FGA 4-7 FG% .571 3PM-3PA 2-3 3P% .661 FTM-FTA 7-8 FT% .871
17PTS 8REBS 6ASTS 1BLK 1STL 3TO IN 34 MINS

Tue 12/20vsSAMFORD PF3 FGM-FGA 5-11 FG% .455 3PM-3PA 0-3 3P% .000 FTM-FTA 0-0FT% .000
1OPTS 2REBS 2ASTS 2BLKS 0STL 1TO IN27 MINS

Thu 12/22vsLOYOLA (MD) PF5 FGM-FGA 4-6 FG% .667 3PM-3PA 0-1 3P% .000 FTM-FTA 7-9FT% .778
15PTS 7REBS 4ASTS 2BLKS 0STL 2TO IN 27 MINS

Wed 12/28vsLAMAR PF2 FGM-FGA 5-6 FG% .883 3PM-3PA 0-9 3P% .000 FTM-FTA 8-10FT% .800
18PTS 6REBS 4ASTS 1BLKS 1STL 1TO IN 26 MINS

ATLTimekeeper · Post #697 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:20 pm

dagger wrote:
HomieOmey wrote:Seems like I've missed a lot in the prospect world. Never even heard of Lamb, but seems to be a consensus top 5 pick now!

Consensus of this board, perhaps, but not yet the mock drafts.

My take is that today is a great day for the Raptors because several of the high end prospects did more than just flash the occasional brilliance in their strongest area. Today, Kidd-Gilchrist, Drummond, Davis, etc, showed game-changing abilities against good opponents. That's very encouraging for the depth of this draft. If we ended up, say, fifth again, we might not do much worse than the team drafting first overall.

They've been playing well all year. I think whatever negative buzz came out from Fraud or whomever was just hot air.

It's always been a deep draft.

Post #698 » by **Alfred** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:32 pm

Kidd-Gilchrist has a been a monster recently. I'd be super excited if he turned out to be our draft pick next year.

Mark_83 · Post #699 » by **Mark_83** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:39 pm

I really think the Raps will be in a good position if we can end up with one of the top 4 picks. It would be great if we could also acquire a second top 10, but I'm not sure which picks and which teams we'd match up well with in a trade. Based on th early nbadraftnet rankings (which will almost assuredly change by seasons end) Detroit, Charlotte, and either Milwaukee's pick or Utah's (outside top 10), might be had for the right price with Terrence Ross, Perry Jones, MK Gilchrist, and possibly Kabaongo or Teague being of interest.

Here are the top 4 scenarios I would love to see taking place.

1st Pick) Andre Drummond
*Trade one or two of our excess big men (Davis, Amir, Bargnani, Valanciunas) + maybe a future 1st for the 4th pick and take Harrison Barnes or less for MKG
(Extra) Acquire another extra pick for Kabongo or Teague.
*Our lineup: (PG) Jose (SG) Demar (C) Drummond (SF) Barnes/MKG (PF) Val/Bargs/Amir/Davis

2nd Pick) Anthony Davis
* Trade one or two of our excess big men (Davis, Amir, Bargnani, Valanciunas) + maybe a future 1st for the 4th pick and take Harrison Barnes or a less for MKG
(Extra) Acquire another extra pick for Kabongo or Teague.
*Future lineup: (PG) Kabongo (SG) Demar (C) Val (SF) Barnes/MKG (PF) AD

3rd Pick) Jeremy Lamb
* Trade one or two of our excess big men (Davis, Amir, Bargnani, Valanciunas) + maybe Derozan or a future pick for the 4th pick and take Harrison Barnes or less for MKG
(Extra) Acquire another extra pick for Kabongo or Teague.
*Future lineup: (PG) Kabongo (SG) Lamb (C) Val (SF) Barnes/MKG (PF) Bargs/Amir/Davis

4th Pick) Harrison Barnes
*Status quo
*Maybe trade excess bigs for MKG and Kabongo
*Future lineup: (PG) Kabongo (SG) Demar (C) Val (SF) Barnes (PF) Bargs/Amir/Davis

Right now my preferece is for scenario 3. I think Lamb and Barnes would provide a excellent dual threat, defensively strong, wing combo.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #700 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:48 pm

^I seriously doubt we try and put 3 rookies on the floor next season. It'd be nice to see if we could buy low on Kabongo and get him with a mid to late first, and then just bring him along slowly, but BC and Casey are on 2 year deals. They pretty much have to win next year, so it's likely we'll be spending money on vets and going with just Val and this high pick.

Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?