Game -16 Detroit @ Green Bay 1:00 kick off

[kellmellus50]

wrong said icness

Young TD was clearly a TD and it was a scoring play if they would have ruled a completed pass.
just because they ruled incomplete they were not able to review it.
Scwartz has a right to be angry if we got them 4 points we would have gone into overtime.

Also Schwartz had used two challenges early so wasn’t able to make another.

hree calls were worth at least 11 points to the Packers: The fumble they called on Lions kick returner Stefan Logan in the second quarter was just plain ignorant. Logan was on the ground when the ball came loose.

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The no-catch ruling on Titus Young’s touchdown grab later in the quarter was one that any of the three blind mice would have seen the correct way. Then, in the fourth quarter, Green Bay’s Jordy Nelson fumbles a punt on a fair catch and the Lions gets the ball. But Green Bay then comes out on offense?

http://blog.mlive.com/hugeblog/2012/01/ ... or_de.html

[ajaX82]

I don't like the way Schwartz handled himself on the Young TD that wasn't. He's veering real close to laughingstock status with the over the top antics. Quit using challenges on non-scoring plays or wasting timeouts, it's on you not managing the game as a coach as much as it is the refs being crappy. Plan on the refs being crappy, they usually are in Lions games.

Schwarz needs to absolutely tone it down. I like passion, and at the right times it can really inspire a team. But he comes off as a nutjob waaaaay too much and actually hurts the team sometimes. Schwarz is a big part of our turn around and has the makings of an actual head coach, but take a Xanax man.

[kellmellus50]

I don't like the way Schwartz handled himself on the Young TD that wasn't. He's veering real close to laughingstock status with the over the top antics. Quit using challenges on non-scoring plays or wasting timeouts, it's on you not managing the game as a coach as much as it is the refs being crappy. Plan on the refs being crappy, they usually are in Lions games.

Schwarz needs to absolutely tone it down. I like passion, and at the right times it can really inspire a team. But he comes off as a nutjob waaaaay too much and actually hurts the team sometimes. Schwarz is a big part of our turn around and has the makings of an actual head coach, but take a Xanax man.

This is a Mans game and people get upset and you just have to deal with it. the team need to get fired up sometimes and stop people running over them . This is not a little girls game that you have to be nice to everyone.You two are something else .

[Icness]

A man would never react the way Schwartz does. It's a sign of lack of respect for the game and a lack of composure in pressure situations. All the dumbass penalties are a direct reflection of that. If the coach can't control himself it's oly fair to expect that his players cannot either. Treating every bad call like he just caught the ref trying to steal his car is unprofessional and lame. A good coach knows how to pick his spots to let it fly. Mike Tomlin is a great example; he's mostly controlled but when he erupts the officials know he is serious. Schwartz acts like that all the time and the refs just tune him out.

[kellmellus50]

After seeing the ref blow 4-5 calls i would be screaming too,yelling at them to get the calls right.
Those wrong calls cost us 11 points and the game .If you were on the field as a coach and see call after call go the wrong way you would lose you head too knowing they were the wrong calls people up in the booth see the replays and tells the coach what really happened.

green bays is getting the jordon calls everthing goes there way no matter what they do.

[Icness]

Right, but he does that crap all the time. If he would control himself better and pick his spots then maybe the refs would respect his position and his words more and not take it out on his team.

[kellmellus50]

I think most people would do the same thing there is only so much you can take from the ref's and you know that most calls for some crazy reason always go against the lions.I just don't understand it.

This reminds me of the bad boy piston days they were alway getting calls against them for no reason too.They could sneeze and get a foul.

[Liqourish]

I have no issue with the way Schwartz handled himself or the challenges. Both challenges were used on plain, clear as day plays that would have given possession to GB unjustly. Turning the ball over (unjustly) is just as important as a scoring situation, especially when you can't predict the refs calling a blantant TD no good. The fact that Schwartz had to use both in the first place was an issue, but not his issue. The refs were horrible. It started early with BJ Raji jumping offsides and then calling Raiola for a false start due to our silent count. Let's not forget the muffed punt that was never called a fair catch, recovered by the Lions, yet the zebras gave possession to the Packers yet again. Titus Young clearly in bounds with both feet and the ref, standing right there calls him out? Kevin Smith TD, he gets pummelled (his helmet actually cracked form the helmet to helmet contact), and then taunted as the guy is standing over him. Refs don't do anything until Calvin gets in the players face and then he pushes CJ away, which knocks him to the ground. No penalty for H2H or unsportmanlike conduct. Jordy Nelson was pushing off all game and it never got called, but Calvin gets called for OPI in the endzone when there was nothing there. If anything, I applaud Schwartz for not blaming the loss on the officiating. That was the worst officiated game I have ever seen, seriously. Even the commentators and Mike Peirera were at a loss for explanations after awhile. Other fanbases, other than Green Bays, cannot believe the atrocious calls against the Lions.

As for the the season. Matt Stafford became only the 3rd QB in NFL history (Marino 1984, Brees 2011) to throw for 5000+ yards and 40+ TDs in a season, yet no one is talking about it. Not even Lions beatwriters. Calvin Johnson became just the 2nd WR in NFL history (Moss 2003) to account for 1600+ yards and 16 TDs in a season, yet no one talking about it. Matthew Stafford threw for over 500+ yds and 5 TDs (6 TDs if the refs wouldn't have screwed the Lions over), top 5 single game QB performance in NFL history, yet no one talking about it. Instead, people show graphics of all the penalties the Lions have accumulated (including most of the BS ones in the game itself) and show video replay of Suh stomping on the Packer scrub on Thanksgiving.

Packers rested two defensive starters, so did the Lions. Lions were at no advantage other than at QB, but that was negated by all the atrocious calls. Including removing a TD from the scoreboard. Our defense had issues, but it's very hard for me to judge our team on this game, when there were so many outside factors that they literally could not do anything about.

[kellmellus50]

I agree 100 % and could not have said it better.

[ajaX82]

Since we were chatting about the Stafford/Sanchez things in here,

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=d ... jets010412

Good article about that exact thing