"No No No, Don't Shoot" - The Byron Mullens Thread

Post #61 » by **Diop** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:15 am

BigSlam wrote:http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2011/12/21/111221mullens2-1942042

Videos can always be deceptive thanks to editing, but it looks like he has a decent turnaround jumper. Why can't he work that into a post move? Athletic 7 footer with a nice jump shot should be able to score in the post.

Stun704 · Post #62 » by **Stun704** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:25 am

BigSlam wrote:http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2011/12/21/111221mullens2-1942042

much more interested in bismack practicing in the back, made a majority of his shots

Post #63 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:43 pm

Stun704 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2011/12/21/111221mullens2-1942042

much more interested in bismack practicing in the back, made a majority of his shots

I was hoping to see Biz and Mullens in some one on one to see how Biz looked visually against a 7 footer.

Post #64 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:43 am

Well, 7 games in and I think it's pretty fair to say he's surpassed all of our expectations.

What are you guys thinking?

I have officially upgraded my comparison from a less crazy Primoz Brezec to a 7 foot, less cocky Carlos Boozer.

Marvel · Post #65 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:44 am

You mean Bulls Boozer or Utah Boozer?

I'm not sold yet. He's a terrible passer, not that he looks to pass anyway. He's intriguing, i want to see us go to him in the post, see how he operates down there and how he handles double teams. Isolate him, see what he can do, is he a go to guy or an offensive rhythm guy - gets his points in the flow of an offense.

If he can give us a better effort on the defensive end and on the boards, he'd be starter material. I love that he's 7ft though, he uses his size/length well.

Post #66 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:49 am

Marvel wrote:You mean Bulls Boozer or Utah Boozer?

Bulls at the moment, hope he can elevate to the Jazz version as the season goes on.

Edit: Actually, would prefer him to morph into a younger more resilient Kaman as the season goes on.

mrknowitall215 · Post #67 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:49 am

I was just about to create a thread talking about Mullens. Thanks for reincarnating this. Mullens has been improving. I've noticed a effort on defense over the past 2 games. If he can continue to progress like this, showing a reasonable presence defensively and on the boards, Silas will have to consider starting him at center come around March. As far as Diaw, I love his commitment and all, but there's only so long fake centers can pretend. He just doesn't have the height. They might consider moving him back to PF, and let D.J. White come off the bench with his scoring.

Post #68 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:52 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:If he can continue to progress like this, showing a reasonable presence defensively and on the boards, Silas will have to consider starting him at center come around March

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/0 ... in-ot.html

Start Byron Mullens at center? Probably, and that could come as soon as Saturday night against the Indiana Pacers

Eoghan · Post #69 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:53 am

BigSlam wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:A big pick-and-pop guy might complement Biyombo a lot.

Both T2 and DJW can pick and pop just fine.

Eh, T2 has a streaky jumper and makes bad decisions sometimes, White is nice around the elbow but has to be on his sweet spot to be automatic. Mullens' J looks like straight money all day, from anywhere, even out to 3 maybe.

Either way, he's absolutely a steal for that 2nd rounder, I'm anxious to see exactly where his ceiling is.

mrknowitall215 · Post #70 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:57 am

BigSlam wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:If he can continue to progress like this, showing a reasonable presence defensively and on the boards, Silas will have to consider starting him at center come around March

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/0 ... in-ot.html

Start Byron Mullens at center? Probably, and that could come as soon as Saturday night against the Indiana Pacers

Wow. I think it's the right decision, but at the same time, I think they're jumping the gun. I just hope Mullens doesn't get the bighead *no pun intended*.

Marvel · Post #71 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:58 am

Mullens is nowhere near Utah Boozer. Never will be.

Eoghan · Post #72 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 4:13 am

Marvel wrote:Mullens is nowhere near Utah Boozer. Never will be.

Yeah, Mullens plays too above the rim. :wink:

Nah, that comparison is too apples and oranges for me. I'm hoping Mullens is a more athletic (pre-injury) Nenad Krstic, that's all I'm asking for.

I don't know if Lord Byron is really going to be a defensive upgrade over DJW though, and we are lousy at defense right now. I'm afraid to say this, but, a line up of DJ-Hendo-T2-Diaw-Mullens will have to score a lot to be competitive. :noway:

dmutombo321 · Post #73 » by **dmutombo321** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 4:23 am

Mullens should definitely be starting and as long as he's playing like he has the past 3 outings, he should be seeing 30+ minutes a game as well.

He's had 5 boards each of the last two games in limited time. Per 36 minutes, he'd be snaring around 8 rebounds a game. Now that's certainly not elite rebounding for a center but it's not poor either.

His defense is decent enough that he's not a liability and he blocks some shots.

The biggest area where he struggles is passing and double team awareness. He could really benefit from watching some film of Divac or Spencer Hawes

[Speaking of Hawes - to the handful of people who were giving me crap and called him a bum when I advocated signing him this offseason, he's presently averaging 13pts, 11.4 reb, 3.6 assists, 2.2 blocks on 67.4% shooting]

Considering we acquired Mullens for a mere second round pick, the fact that he's only 22 and under contract for 3 years, he's been an absolute steal. He belongs in the starting lineup and as far as I'm concerned, solves the center delimma for the team.

thruthefire · Post #74 » by **thruthefire** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 4:24 am

hhvo wrote:I really like this trade. Mullens was a highly rated prospect coming out of high school. At 7'0 & 275lbs, he's very servicable. On top of that it only costed us a 2nd rounder.
Mullens > Fesenko

Good call.

Marvel · Post #75 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 4:28 am

dmutombo321 wrote:Mullens should definitely be starting and as long as he's playing like he has the past 3 outings, he should be seeing 30+ minutes a game as well.

He's had 5 boards each of the last two games in limited time. Per 36 minutes, he'd be snaring around 8 rebounds a game. Now that's certainly not elite rebounding for a center but it's not poor either.

His defense is decent enough that he's not a liability and he blocks some shots.

The biggest area where he struggles is passing and double team awareness. He could really benefit from watching some film of Divac or Spencer Hawes

[Speaking of Hawes - to the handful of people who were giving me crap and called him a bum when I advocated signing him this offseason, he's presently averaging 13pts, 11.4 reb, 3.6 assists, 2.2 blocks on 67.4% shooting]

Considering we acquired Mullens for a mere second round pick, the fact that he's only 22 and under contract for 3 years, he's been an absolute steal. He belongs in the starting lineup and as far as I'm concerned, solves the center delimma for the team.

Crazy what some players with talent will do in a contract year.

dmutombo321 · Post #76 » by **dmutombo321** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 4:33 am

Marvel wrote:
dmutombo321 wrote:Mullens should definitely be starting and as long as he's playing like he has the past 3 outings, he should be seeing 30+ minutes a game as well.

He's had 5 boards each of the last two games in limited time. Per 36 minutes, he'd be snaring around 8 rebounds a game. Now that's certainly not elite rebounding for a center but it's not poor either.

His defense is decent enough that he's not a liability and he blocks some shots.

The biggest area where he struggles is passing and double team awareness. He could really benefit from watching some film of Divac or Spencer Hawes

[Speaking of Hawes - to the handful of people who were giving me crap and called him a bum when I advocated signing him this offseason, he's presently averaging 13pts, 11.4 reb, 3.6 assists, 2.2 blocks on 67.4% shooting]

Considering we acquired Mullens for a mere second round pick, the fact that he's only 22 and under contract for 3 years, he's been an absolute steal. He belongs in the starting lineup and as far as I'm concerned, solves the center delimma for the team.

Crazy what some players with talent will do in a contract year.

In this situation, its more a function of what a good player can do when they actually get consistent court time. Last year he was a starter in name only, only saw approx 20 minutes a night and rarely got touches. This year, theyre running the offense through him in the high post and playing to his strengths. The second or third game of the season, Hawes was on assist short of a triple double.

From the ESPN game recap tonight:

The biggest change, though, is at center, where Hawes has suddenly morphed from accessory piece to regular double-double threat. He had a crowd of nearly 20,000 fans chanting "Spen-cer Hawes!" in the third quarter after a string of big shots and dominated a short-handed Pistons team on the boards.

Hawes already has four double-doubles and has taken pressure off forward Elton Brand down low.

Post #77 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 5:11 am

Yeah Phillie were mishandling their bigs for a while.

SWedd523 · Post #78 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 5:17 am

Mutombo loves him some big white boys

mrknowitall215 · Post #79 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 5:28 am

SWEDD523 wrote:Mutombo loves him some big white boys

Marvel · Post #80 » by **Marvel** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 6:11 am

In this situation, its more a function of what a good player can do when they actually get consistent court time. Last year he was a starter in name only, only saw approx 20 minutes a night and rarely got touches. This year, theyre running the offense through him in the high post and playing to his strengths. The second or third game of the season, Hawes was on assist short of a triple double.

Let's see what your boy Mullens can do given the situation.