Is Williams good enough?

[NewWolvesOrder]

To let Love go?

I think DW can be a great player and paired with Rubio they can form something similar to Nash->Amare combo. But DW needs to play power forward. I think trying to make him a SF will slow his development and is unlikely to work out. Well, it may, but he's going to be far better as a PF.
I think presense of Love will make Williams worse or will force him to be traded. I actually think that being on the same team with Love was bad for Beasley who was forced to SF positon and he was better off staying at PF position where he had spent 2 years developing in Miami.

So is DW is good enough to trade Love for help at other positions? Love has tons of trade value, much more value than DW. We probably can get Harden/Ibaka, Noah/Deng for him. Will it make the team better. Now, when Rubio is on board, if Kahn trades Love it won't effect attendance: Rubio is the bigger draw. Love is the better player now, but Rubio is the guy people want to see most. Plus Adelman is already signed for 5 years.

[teven_1]

Love over any other PF in the League.

[Basti]

Until Love officially comes out saying he will abandon the team as soon as he can or tries to force a trade he's the one we have to keep. He's the real deal. His desire to improve his game is off the charts.

Unless there's a GM offering a bonafide superstar for Love, we have to keep him. Williams seems like he's loaded with potential but for once we have to stick with the proven thing.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Until Love officially comes out saying he will abandon the team as soon as he can or tries to force a trade he's the one we have to keep. He's the real deal. His desire to improve his game is off the charts.

Unless there's a GM offering a bonafide superstar for Love, we have to keep him. Williams seems like he's loaded with potential but for once we have to stick with the proven thing.

Who do you have in mind?

[Peezo]

I don't even see how this is being considered right now. I really think DWill is going to be nasty, but I'd rather worry about that when we have proof of it. The best part about having the two of them is that one is nearing the end of his rookie deal while the other has just begun. We shouldn't have to make that kind of choice because both should be around for the future.

But more importantly, why would we want to let the second most talented player in team history (no offense Rider) walk? The only fathomable explanation would be if we thought we could bring in a FA of an equal caliber at a different position. I don't see that happening. In fact, Love and Rubio are probably the only thing we have going in MIN that might lure a FA right now. Gotta keep that kid who is looking like a bona-fide star in only his 4th season.

[Basti]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

[NewWolvesOrder]

I don't even see how this is being considered right now. I really think DWill is going to be nasty, but I'd rather worry about that when we have proof of it. The best part about having the two of them is that one is nearing the end of his rookie deal while the other has just begun. We shouldn't have to make that kind of choice because both should be around for the future.

But more importantly, why would we want to let the second most talented player in team history (no offense Rider) walk? The only fathomable explanation would be if we thought we could bring in a FA of an equal caliber at a different position. I don't see that happening. In fact, Love and Rubio are probably the only thing we have going in MIN that might lure a FA right now. Gotta keep that kid who is looking like a bona-fide star in only his 4th season.

I didn't mean to let him go without compensation, we can trade him while his value at all time high.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

What about Westbrook?

[Peezo]

Yeah Rubio Dwight would be nasty, but short of that class of superduper star, I don't think there are any Love trades that make sense. He is so locked in at the four here and it doesn't cost anything to bring him to the team, just the same money we'd have to pay anyone else. The actual list of players who we could trade Love for I don't think I'd take any of them.

I don't think any team would give us a player of equal value because his value is so mercurial. For example, he doesn't play great D but his rebounding is elite and can be considered a part of the defensive equation. I'd say keep Love because the only players (such as dwight) that have greater value than Love are just not going to ever be made available.

[cpfsf]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

Derrick Williams (plus a lot of other junk) for Dwight Howard = NBA Championship. Wesley Johnson and Wayne Ellington won't even have to play defense, they can just stand behind the 3 point line all game.

It's not fair value for Orlando, by why do the big market teams have all the fun

[Basti]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

What about Westbrook?

Nope. I don't want to come across as a homer here but I'd rather see how Ricky develops first. Although I haven't seen many OKC games, many posters here have complained about him being a shoot first guard and that is not really enticing to me.

But just to be clear, I'd never say no to dealing for Westbrook but not at the expense of Kevin Love. Not as long as we have a potential franchise caliber point guard.

[Basti]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

Derrick Williams (plus a lot of other junk) for Dwight Howard = NBA Championship. Wesley Johnson and Wayne Ellington won't even have to play defense, they can just stand behind the 3 point line all game.

It's not fair value for Orlando, by why do the big market teams have all the fun

It's because you didn't finish your meal yesterday

[NewWolvesOrder]

Eh, that's hard to say. There aren't many available but if (and that's a big if and almost unlikely to happen) for some reason Dwight Howard was available I wouldn't hesitate trading Love for him and whatever other asset (save for Rubio) it takes to get him. Pairing Rubio and Howard? That would give me a massive Bayno.

Keep in mind, that would have to require Howard signing an extension first, though. No way in hell I'd trade Love for a 6 month rental.

And as I said, this is not likely to happen. I just want you to catch my drift here.

What about Westbrook?

Nope. I don't want to come across as a homer here but I'd rather see how Ricky develops first. Although I haven't seen many OKC games, many posters here have complained about him being a shoot first guard and that is not really enticing to me.

But just to be clear, I'd never say no to dealing for Westbrook but not at the expense of Kevin Love. Not as long as we have a potential franchise caliber point guard.

Westbrook can play SG easily.

[Basti]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions. And even more if it came at the expense of trading Love.

[Ledeni]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions.

+1

[NewWolvesOrder]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions. And even more if it came at the expense of trading Love.

I would argue that PG is not Westbrook's natural position.

[Dewey]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions. And even more if it came at the expense of trading Love.

IMO, the problem that makes this stand out is that we have players who just aren't that good fundamentally ... also, one player out of position is one thing, but 3-4 players out of position is extreme.

[youngthegiant]

is k-love a restricted free agent?

[Basti]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions. And even more if it came at the expense of trading Love.

I would argue that PG is not Westbrook's natural position.

Isn't Westbrook only 6' 4'' or something? If anything he's a tweener. No way he's a shooting guard.

[bluethunder0005]

I'm actually sick of players playing out of their natural positions. And even more if it came at the expense of trading Love.

I would argue that PG is not Westbrook's natural position.

Isn't Westbrook only 6' 4'' or something? If anything he's a tweener. No way he's a shooting guard.

If Westbrook actually is 6'4 then he should be just fine playing there. Wade isn't any taller than that and Kobe is really only like 6'5. All depends on his wingspan, which isn't quite as long as Wade's. Still I think he could handle it alright.