RGM's Top 25 most valuable players - vote for #7

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RGM's Top 25 most valuable players - vote for #7 

Post#1 » by dockingsched » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:50 pm

RealGM's Top 25 Most Valuable Players:

1. Kevin Durant
2. LeBron James
3. Derrick Rose
4. Blake Griffin
5. Dwight Howard
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Vote Now!
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In a post, please vote for who you believe has the most trade value of the 10 nominees, taking into account everything that goes into determining trade value (skill, talent, attitude, age, contract, injuries, etc). in that same post, list a player you believe should be added to the nominee list. votes will be accepted up to 24hrs from the timestamp of the start of the thread.

example of a voting post:

vote for: Blake Griffin
nominate: Monta Ellis


without further delay, your current nominees:


LaMarcus Aldridge
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Carmelo Anthony
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Kobe Bryant
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Kevin Love
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Dirk Nowitzki
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Chris Paul
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Rajon Rondo
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John Wall
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Russell Westbrook
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Deron Williams
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Re: RGM's Top 25 most valuable players - vote for #7 

Post#2 » by dockingsched » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:50 pm

Vote #6 Results:

Dwyane Wade 8
Kevin Love 4
LaMarcus Aldridge 1
Kobe Bryant 1
Carmelo Anthony 1
Chris Paul 1

Nominee Results:

Rajon Rondo 11
Andrew Bynum 2
Amare Stoudemire 2
Al Horford 1
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Post#3 » by dockingsched » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:53 pm

Vote: Chris Paul

true superstar, still young enough to build around, clips just gave up a ton for him and would without a doubt need one of the top 5 in this list to consider moving him

Nominate: Andrew Bynum

establishing himself as the clear cut 2nd best center in the league, very young. injuries only reason he's not higher.
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Post#4 » by jscott » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:55 pm

Love
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Post#5 » by shrink » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:57 pm

VOTE: Love

Swimmer wrote: I think a lot of small market teams can hold out hope that Love (RFA) actually stays <3-4 years sic>, unlike with a lot of superstars with shorter contracts.


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Post#6 » by SamBone » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:59 pm

Vote: Chris Paul
Nominate: Andrew Bynum
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Post#7 » by mkwest » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:59 pm

Vote: Chris Paul
Nominate: Andrew Bynum
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Post#8 » by donkeylips » Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:59 pm

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Post#9 » by kdawg32086 » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:02 pm

Vote: LaMarcus Aldridge
Nominate: Amare
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Post#10 » by dockingsched » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:02 pm

isn't amare's contract uninsured? thats a pretty big hit to his value imo if true.
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Post#11 » by HomieOmey » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:04 pm

Swimmer wrote: I think a lot of small market teams can hold out hope that Love (RFA) actually stays <3-4 years sic>, unlike with a lot of superstars with shorter contracts.


I don't know, Love has a really high opinion of himself and he really wants to win / get paid, so I have my doubts he's a sure fire guy to re-sign. At least Rondo seems to be locked in for four years at a relatively cheap contract.

Reluctantly, my vote goes to Chris Paul.
(though it's hard to imagine him ever netting anything close to what he just did again).

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Post#12 » by kdawg32086 » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:09 pm

dockingsched wrote:isn't amare's contract uninsured? thats a pretty big hit to his value imo if true.


Is Bynum's contract insured? If he's not, then the same thing would apply to him except Amare's played more games than Bynum in each of the past 5 seasons.
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Post#13 » by dockingsched » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:10 pm

kdawg32086 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:isn't amare's contract uninsured? thats a pretty big hit to his value imo if true.


Is Bynum's contract insured? If he's not, then the same thing would apply to him except Amare's played more games than Bynum in each of the past 5 seasons.


of course bynum's contract is insured. its very uncommon for contracts to be uninsured, and amare's was a high profile case of it when he had to pull out of team usa activities cause of it.
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Post#14 » by Krapinsky » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:11 pm

Vote: Chris Paul

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Post#15 » by JasonStern » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:12 pm

dockingsched wrote:Vote: Chris Paul

true superstar, still young enough to build around, clips just gave up a ton for him and would without a doubt need one of the top 5 in this list to consider moving him

Nominate: Andrew Bynum

establishing himself as the clear cut 2nd best center in the league, very young. injuries only reason he's not higher.


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Post#16 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:14 pm

Vote: Aldridge. A top big man locked into a less than max contract.


Nominate: Irving. #1 pick who is showing very well - hard to beat the rookie scale for a promising young player in terms of value.
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Post#17 » by Guy986 » Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:32 pm

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Post#18 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:03 am

I still feel like Kobe has transformative value to a franchise in ways which even Paul doesn't. If Blake wasn't in LAC to form "lob city" with Paul, I don't think you see the mad ticket rush etc.

So, I'm going to go ahead and throw my vote away for the 3rd party candidate:

Vote: Kobe
Nominate: Bogut

Honestly any of Horford/Bogut/Amare/Bynum could get the nomination and it would be fine, its splitting hairs.

Breaking down contracts:
Horford 5 years 12 per flat, no injury history.
Bogut 3 years 39 million increasing, injuries.
Amare 3 (4th his option) 60 (83) increasing, injuries uninsured
Bynum 2 years 31 million increasing (2nd year is team option), injures.

I think Amare's contract length and uninsured status is a big hit, as well as his inability to be a defensive anchor. Paradoxically, Bynum is mildly hurt by only being only under contract for 2 years. Horford looks perfect. But tonight, I would go for a true center over and feel slightly more comfortable with Bogut over Bynum.
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Post#19 » by JoseRizal » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:39 am

V: Paul

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Post#20 » by Mascot » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:16 am

Vote Paul
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