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Joe's dream coach - and mine - is available. 

Post#1 » by parson » Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:13 pm

link: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... o_Coaching

No coach in modern memory was so good at getting open shots for SGs while teaching PGs to be great and developing PFs. His players constantly improved. His only weakness seems to be in teaching Centers, which is okay, since we never seem to care to draft one.

We're now in our 10th season of the ASG's motion offense philosophy (Woodson and Drew's offenses both featured perimeter passing, getting the ball to the open man - almost always on the outside). If we were ever going to make it work, we would have proven the theory by now. Our offense still looks poorly coordinated. Just a bunch of guys taking jump shots.

Guys like Jerry Sloan do not come available every day. Earlier, I asked for Tyrone Corbin. Now, we can have his teacher, one of the finest NBA coaches ever.

MOVE, ASG.
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Post#2 » by baseline33 » Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:51 pm

oh come on, Drew has been doing a great job and we get this crap
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Post#3 » by ACE_reppin_ATL » Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:36 pm

Nah, nah...I hear ya Parson. Drew has been doing a very solid job with the Hawks. But we have to be realistic and face it...Drew and his decent work can still only take this group so far. We can't just stay content with slowly getting better. We can't just ONLY look to blow this thing up when they have one of those skunky games like they did against MIA (without the big 2) right after the HUGE meltdown against CHI. We need to stay realistic.

Some of the problems in those games are unmotivated, lackadaisical players who need a fire lit under their butts. There's no reason to go out there and not fight to the last buzzer and earn the bloated salary that these guys get. Especially Joe. I say Joe because he's out there going through motions sometimes and not even making his stamp on half these games. He'll ball out in 1 outta every 4 games or so BUT if you gon get money like the big players at least make an impact every night, other than ABSENCE. Love him here, but we been asking too long for him to "go hard every night" whether its a 3/15 or a 5/18 game at least put the shots up and we ride with a loss on his back. If LAL losses, you look to boxscore to see what Kobe did or didn't do that game, same for Melo, KD, Lebron, and the rest. When the Hawks lose, we look to see who did play well, who had TOs, and so on then we look at Joe's numbers. Sad.

The fact is this is a problem that stems from our issues in the front office on down to the coaching then onto the players. We need a solidified owner more importantly than anything. But if Sloan was a possibility and wanted to coach here, we'd be very ignorant NOT to pursue him. He's a legend whose reputation proceeds him and it demands respect. Guy play hard for coaches like him and he's not afraid to discipline guys.
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Post#4 » by MaceCase » Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:46 pm

There's no problem bringing in a HOF coach to push this team over the top just like that other team we seem to always hear that we are emulating. LD has done a swell job and will get his shot one day just like Carlisle did but with Joe's age and contract especially a lot of win now moves need to be considered.
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Post#5 » by parson » Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:01 pm

1) Drew is not doing a "great job." Bringing in an offense with absolutely no inside game is poor scheming. And remember, it was his offensive scheme that was supposed to be his selling point. We've seen his gameplan: swinging the ball around the perimeter until someone is open enough to take a jump shot.

2) Even if he's okay in anyone's mind, would we refuse to take Chris Paul because we already had Ty Lawson?
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Post#6 » by johnny878 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:49 am

there is alot of value with consistency at the coaching position. For whatever reason, the hawks are looking like they are starting to gel this year, despite the regression in Joe Johnson.

In fact, maybe thats it. Joe has gotten worse which has taken away from joe dominating the ball as much as in the past with such a talented team around him. That or all these vets like tmac and vlad are helping the teams mentality.

Either way, I think this team could get to the conference finals as currently constructed depending on playoff matchups. I dont see sloan getting the hawks near the same level as the heat. so i see no reason into messing with the hawks chemistry without improving the roster on the court. This is the first year in years, it looks like the hawks are actually a team. Rather than guys who just play iso
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Post#7 » by samhuang » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:33 am

baseline33 wrote:oh come on, Drew has been doing a great job and we get this crap

Yes,i agree. Image
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Post#8 » by Ruhiel » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:58 am

samhuang wrote:
baseline33 wrote:oh come on, Drew has been doing a great job and we get this crap

Yes,i agree. Image


Loved his rotations. He managed to play big without putting Smith and Horford and Zaza together.

For the most part used 6'10 Vlad to space them. Worried with Vlad's age, minutes, past history and how/if that affects consistency.

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