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Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3

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Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?

Anthony Davis
30
16%
Harrison Barnes
52
27%
Andre Drummond
20
10%
Perry Jones
9
5%
Quincy Miller
6
3%
Jeremy Lamb
17
9%
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
50
26%
Jared Sullinger
2
1%
Austin Rivers
4
2%
Other
3
2%
 
Total votes: 193

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1301 » by God Squad » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:06 pm

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CunningLinguist wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:Who wouldn't want a 6'7 230 lb small forward who cam rebound and push the way MKG does?


He can't break down his man or shoot off the dribble and has difficulty finishing in traffic against size.

He's very good as a rebounder, defender and passer though.

OK, dude. lol

He's 18, he's not a finished product.

People tend to forget this. Anyways MKG jumper has come along. Some said that's what's holding him back from being a better prospect.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1302 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:08 pm

what the, damn it I missed the kentucky game. So MKG and Davis had good game and Drummond still lacks motor? Got it. I'm ready for 2nd half of UNC and abit of PJ3.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1303 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:09 pm

I wanna see how LeBryan Nash does this game as well
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1304 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:12 pm

Steely Reserve wrote:You obviously are underrating MKG because the attribute you say he lacks is exactly why he's a better prospect than Iggy. MKG in facg can break his man down and do it consistently. Playing against zones and college defenses that allow the defense to sit in the paint don't really give MKG the chance to showcase his dribble-drive game. MKG is way more of a shotmaker and creator than Iggy.

Not going to really argue this. Even though MKG has shown this ability, you still act naive for some reason. I do know, though, Kidd-Gilchrist projects as the best prospect in the draft. The fact you Raptor fans would want anyone else other than this guy is baffling, to say the least. He fits a glaring hope for you all and he's a winner.


Steely is the most joked poster on realgm, PJ3 for 1st pick and now MKG as best prospect? I'm a huge fan of MKG but even I wouldn't declare him as the best prospect. Oh man, sometimes I wonder if you're smoking too much weed or you're just a deliberate troll :lol:
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1305 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:14 pm

Nash versus Miller! Juicy!
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1306 » by CunningLinguist » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:14 pm

Steely Reserve wrote:
CunningLinguist wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:MKG has been at the top of my Big Board for two weeks. I love Perry's game and potential but MKG is the real deal. He's going to be a great pro. Certainly hetter than Iguodala. LMAO


What about his game gives him more pro potential than Iguodala?

Iguodala exhibited the same level of rebounding, passing and defensive ability in college. They also have similar size. I think Iguodala is more explosive athletically, but let's say for the sake of argument that they are similar in that regard. They're similar from a shooting perspective at the college level. I think Iguodala is a better ballhandler.

You obviously are underrating MKG because the attribute you say he lacks is exactly why he's a better prospect than Iggy. MKG in facg can break his man down and do it consistently. Playing against zones and college defenses that allow the defense to sit in the paint don't really give MKG the chance to showcase his dribble-drive game. MKG is way more of a shotmaker and creator than Iggy.

Not going to really argue this. Even though MKG has shown this ability, you still act naive for some reason. I do know, though, Kidd-Gilchrist projects as the best prospect in the draft. The fact you Raptor fans would want anyone else other than this guy is baffling, to say the least. He fits a glaring hope for you all and he's a winner.


I disagree with the bolded statement. To me, he struggles in that regard.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1307 » by Steely Reserve » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:15 pm

fredericklove wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:You obviously are underrating MKG because the attribute you say he lacks is exactly why he's a better prospect than Iggy. MKG in facg can break his man down and do it consistently. Playing against zones and college defenses that allow the defense to sit in the paint don't really give MKG the chance to showcase his dribble-drive game. MKG is way more of a shotmaker and creator than Iggy.

Not going to really argue this. Even though MKG has shown this ability, you still act naive for some reason. I do know, though, Kidd-Gilchrist projects as the best prospect in the draft. The fact you Raptor fans would want anyone else other than this guy is baffling, to say the least. He fits a glaring hope for you all and he's a winner.


Steely is the most joked poster on realgm, PJ3 for 1st pick and now MKG as best prospect? I'm a huge fan of MKG but even I wouldn't declare him as the best prospect. Oh man, sometimes I wonder if you're smoking too much weed or you're just a deliberate troll :lol:

Hold up, leg me guess, you got either Davis or Drummond as your best prospect right? :roll:
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1308 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Steely Reserve wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:You obviously are underrating MKG because the attribute you say he lacks is exactly why he's a better prospect than Iggy. MKG in facg can break his man down and do it consistently. Playing against zones and college defenses that allow the defense to sit in the paint don't really give MKG the chance to showcase his dribble-drive game. MKG is way more of a shotmaker and creator than Iggy.

Not going to really argue this. Even though MKG has shown this ability, you still act naive for some reason. I do know, though, Kidd-Gilchrist projects as the best prospect in the draft. The fact you Raptor fans would want anyone else other than this guy is baffling, to say the least. He fits a glaring hope for you all and he's a winner.


Steely is the most joked poster on realgm, PJ3 for 1st pick and now MKG as best prospect? I'm a huge fan of MKG but even I wouldn't declare him as the best prospect. Oh man, sometimes I wonder if you're smoking too much weed or you're just a deliberate troll :lol:

Hold up, leg me guess, you got either Davis or Drummond as your best prospect right? :roll:


Let me guess, you are the only one on realgm that don't think so while every posters, every gms and every scouts declare Davis and Drummond as top 2 :roll:
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1309 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Why the hell is Quincy Miller already on the bench before we're 5 minutes into the half? Scott Drew, what a joke you are.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1310 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:22 pm

BlackFalcon wrote:Why the hell is Quincy Miller already on the bench before we're 5 minutes into the half? Scott Drew, what a joke you are.


If it was Coach Cal he prolly plays QMiller the whole half, Drew's way of providing mins to Miller is like how Casey provides his for Demar :lol:
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Post#1311 » by witnessraps » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Raps need to find the James Harden of this draft. Guy who can handle the ball and create for others.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1312 » by nahom1319 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:23 pm

fredericklove wrote:what the, damn it I missed the kentucky game. So MKG and Davis had good game and Drummond still lacks motor? Got it. I'm ready for 2nd half of UNC and abit of PJ3.

His picks are disgusting and he still manages to dominate the glass and paint. Although I doubt he manages to do so against nba players simply because he doesn't put enough effort into what he is doing. He's gotten better at positioning defensively but lacking some serious fundamentals. The anti Jonas imo. His passing though for a big man is remarkable.

As for UNC I think I'm bad luck, the first game of HB i tune into in about a month and its been disgusting. He did attempt to drive the ball and was able to use his body to shield the ball and get into the paint. Missed the shot but baby steps I guess... I wonder who would look better in the nba Lamb or Barnes... I think Lamb
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Post#1313 » by Steely Reserve » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:24 pm

You're right, just like I was the only one with Jonas Valancuinas, Tristan Thompson, and Branding Knight in my Top 10 Big Board months before the draft.

When I talk, you need to listen. I see its going to take one more draft for this sink in.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1314 » by CunningLinguist » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:24 pm

fredericklove wrote:
Let me guess, you are the only one on realgm that don't think so while every posters, every gms and every scouts declare Davis and Drummond as top 2 :roll:


PJ3 is more #1 pick worthy than MKG, based on potential. He should have stuck with his first choice. Mind you, he also thinks he's a small forward at the next level for some reason.

Personally, my top 3 in terms of pure potential (not early pro production) would be:

Drummond
Davis
Perry Jones
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1315 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:25 pm

witnessraps wrote:Raps need to find the James Harden of this draft. Guy who can handle the ball and create for others.


Wrong draft then cos he's only available in 2013 draft - Shabazz.
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Post#1316 » by nahom1319 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:26 pm

witnessraps wrote:Raps need to find the James Harden of this draft. Guy who can handle the ball and create for others.

To me thats Lamb, but his frame is too skinny, although I think he could do alot better in the NBA then on this offensively inept UConn team.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1317 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:26 pm

fredericklove wrote:
BlackFalcon wrote:Why the hell is Quincy Miller already on the bench before we're 5 minutes into the half? Scott Drew, what a joke you are.


If it was Coach Cal he prolly plays QMiller the whole half, Drew's way of providing mins to Miller is like how Casey provides his for Demar :lol:


I was excited to see Miller and Nash guard one another. Then Drew ripped my dreams away :cry:
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1318 » by CunningLinguist » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:28 pm

Steely Reserve wrote:You're right, just like I was the only one with Jonas Valancuinas, Tristan Thompson, and Branding Knight in my Top 10 Big Board months before the draft.

When I talk, you need to listen. I see its going to take one more draft for this sink in.


Please get over yourself. Honestly, are you 14 years old?

And, for the record, I had called Knight as being a very good pro in the 2011 draft thread. Should I go around asking posters to bow down to me also?
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1319 » by fredericklove » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:28 pm

CunningLinguist wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
Let me guess, you are the only one on realgm that don't think so while every posters, every gms and every scouts declare Davis and Drummond as top 2 :roll:


PJ3 is more #1 pick worthy than MKG, based on potential. He should have stuck with his first choice. Mind you, he also thinks he's a small forward at the next level for some reason.

Personally, my top 3 in terms of pure potential (not early pro production) would be:

Drummond
Davis
Perry Jones


Yup PJ3 is #1 pick worthy, I hear ya :lol: thanks for the comical laugh. But I have to say, PJ3 that can prove he can play SF and being assertive with killer instinct could end up 1st pick but too bad he isn't. Lol at your pure potential and you put those two in there but you do not agree that they are in the top 2 (ADs) you're just confusing me so whatever.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#1320 » by Steely Reserve » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:29 pm

I also called the Kanter and Derrick Williams hype as over-reaching efforts by the online communication to sound like they know what they're talking about. As excited you all are about Drummond and Davis now, you were the same way for Kanter and Derrick Williams then.

Just as I promoted Jonas while you all hated last year (until draft day), you all are doing the same for Perry this year.

Nothing shocking here. I like your forum. You all give me the platform to do what I do -- which is provide cutting edge scouting analysis.

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