Los Angeles Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves trade

BeasleyTheBeast · Post #1 » by **BeasleyTheBeast** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:44 am

Los Angeles gives back Minnesota their team name.........joking. This trade involves Michael Beasley and Luke Ridnour from the Wolves side, and Metta World Peace from the Lakers side.

Minnesota Timberwolves Send: Michael Beasley, Luke Ridnour

Los Angeles Lakers Send: Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks, 2012 Mavericks 1st Round Pick, 2013 Lakers 1st Round Pick

Found this trade idea on another site and I thought it was a fair and right deal for both sides. Lakers get a young combo forward who could work effectively off the bench or be their future 3 for coming years. As well as Luke Ridnour who would be an upgrade over Fisher, and Blake as the Lakers starting PG. Wolves get rid of Beasley and get a veteran who was coached by Rick Adleman before and get the 2 first round drafts picks, and Devin Ebanks.

Los Angeles Lakers

PG Luke Ridnour/Derek Fisher/Steve Blake
SG Kobe Bryant/Matt Barnes
SF Michael Beasley/Luke Walton
PF Pau Gasol/Josh McRoberts/Troy Murphy
C Andrew Bynum

Minnesota Timberwolves

PG Ricky Rubio/JJ Barea
SG Wesley Johnson/Wayne Ellington
SF Metta World Peace/Derrick Williams/Devin Ebanks
PF Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
C Darko Milicic/Brad Miller

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/5985386

Baddy Chuck · Post #2 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:46 am

Nobody wants Artest.

Krapinsky · Post #3 » by **Krapinsky** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:46 am

Haha, not a chance MN wants to do that.

BeasleyTheBeast · Post #4 » by **BeasleyTheBeast** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:53 am

Krapinsky wrote:Haha, not a chance MN wants to do that.

pretty good deal imo. The Wolves get themselves two draft picks in this season deep draft class.

lewdog · Post #5 » by **lewdog** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:59 am

I say no to Peace and Love.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #6 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:21 am

Beasley hasn't shown he can play SF effectively and Luke isn't an upgrade over blake besides being younger.

Esohny · Post #7 » by **Esohny** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:29 am

BeasleyTheBeast wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Haha, not a chance MN wants to do that.

pretty good deal imo. The Wolves get themselves two draft picks in this season deep draft class.

Two late first rounders and a couple solid players for a cooked Artest with a bad contract, and a marginal prospect. Yes, what a bargain.

dan_atko97 · Post #8 » by **dan_atko97** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:47 am

lol Minny hangs up the phone

Jugs · Post #9 » by **Jugs** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:12 am

First it was Luke Walton to the Wolves and now its World Peace to the Wolves. give up Laker fans, the Wolves arent your Grizzlies

CHITOWNGREG · Post #10 » by **CHITOWNGREG** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:34 am

Minny is going up they will not be hindered with that type of contract.

Foye · Post #11 » by **Foye** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:26 am

I would do it for the Wolves.

shrink · Post #12 » by **shrink** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:54 pm

Geeze - did you guys really give Artest a 15% trade kicker too?

Artest would get $8.5, $9.0 and $9.7 for $27.2 mil

Beasley and Ridnour both have neutral to positive trade value, and neither are on bad contracts. A fairer offer for two starters would be to use the LAL TPE and the two late picks. However, I'd expect neither team would accept. MIN wants to win more games, and LAL doesn't want to pay double for the lux on both players.

shrink · Post #13 » by **shrink** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:03 pm

If I was the GM of the Lakers, I'd use the picks to try to convert some of their excess salary (that they already pay double for lux) into more production. If you're going to pay double, you better be getting something for it.

If LAL wants to save money, I'd try to convert Walton + picks into Ridnour + about $8 mil in savings over the next two years. That's a decent cash return to simply sell the picks, but you'd have someone useful on the roster.

If money is no object, I'd try for a bigger upgrade with Walton + picks for Mo Williams, though he would cost about $19 mil more than Ridnour for the next two years.

Foye · Post #14 » by **Foye** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:16 pm

shrink wrote:Geeze - did you guys really give Artest a 15% trade kicker too?

Artest would get $8.5, $9.0 and $9.7 for $27.2 mil

Beasley and Ridnour both have neutral to positive trade value, and neither are on bad contracts. A fairer offer for two starters would be to use the LAL TPE and the two late picks. However, I'd expect neither team would accept. MIN wants to win more games, and LAL doesn't want to pay double for the lux on both players.

I feel like it adds a lot more flexibility for bigger moves for the Wolves. Artest is a bad contract but it would leave us with 5 1st round picks in the upcoming 2 drafts. Obviously, if we continue to sell them or draft garbage players this is non-sense but if we use them to acquire capable players (by trade) this could be very good.

Post #15 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:22 pm

Jugs wrote:First it was Luke Walton to the Wolves and now its World Peace to the Wolves. give up Laker fans, the Wolves arent your Grizzlies

hmmm, OP is BeasleytheBest...laker fan? :dontknow:

[RCG] · Post #16 » by **[RCG]** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:24 pm

Foye wrote:
shrink wrote:Geeze - did you guys really give Artest a 15% trade kicker too?

Artest would get $8.5, $9.0 and $9.7 for $27.2 mil

Beasley and Ridnour both have neutral to positive trade value, and neither are on bad contracts. A fairer offer for two starters would be to use the LAL TPE and the two late picks. However, I'd expect neither team would accept. MIN wants to win more games, and LAL doesn't want to pay double for the lux on both players.

I feel like it adds a lot more flexibility for bigger moves for the Wolves. Artest is a bad contract but it would leave us with 5 1st round picks in the upcoming 2 drafts. Obviously, if we continue to sell them or draft garbage players this is non-sense but if we use them to acquire capable players (by trade) this could be very good.

At face value. Utah 1st may or may not be conveyed. Memphis 1st likely won't be conveyed for a couple years. the Dallas and Lakers 1st are likely to be very late when a second rounder is probably more valuable.

Myst · Post #17 » by **Myst** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:55 pm

Lol or the lakers can just anmisty artest save there 2 first round draft picks there is no reason for the Lakers to spend this much just to "save money" you do know how much money the Lakers rake in and will rake up real soon?

[RCG] · Post #18 » by **[RCG]** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:14 pm

Myst wrote:Lol or the lakers can just anmisty artest save there 2 first round draft picks there is no reason for the Lakers to spend this much just to "save money" you do know how much money the Lakers rake in and will rake up real soon?

Or they could sell a player and amnesty someone else to open up more savings

Post #19 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:16 pm

with 3mil cash being limited to use for an entire season as opposed to per transaction, i think just giving them away is a tougher pill to swallow. can't just go out and buy em to make bigger deals work.

old rem · Post #20 » by **old rem** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:24 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Nobody wants Artest.

True. I doubt the Wolves wanna be the Laker's little bitch,or to help LAL get a day younger.