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IronChef · Post #41 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:51 pm

Surprised no foul given there.

Announcer taking a shot at AVB, ouch

Post #42 » by **5DOM** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:55 pm

Swansea played very well. Deserved the 3 points

MaliBrah · Post #43 » by **MaliBrah** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:57 pm

back to back losses wenger, this one's on you and ramsey , and a lack of effort.

MaliBrah · Post #44 » by **MaliBrah** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:58 pm

if wenger still refuses to spend and half ass this window and not buy fullbacks or some kind of quality... i just dont know what i'll do

BC_ · Post #45 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:05 pm

nmabdi28 wrote:back to back losses wenger, this one's on you and ramsey , and a lack of effort.

Ramsey looked tired but he was playing in Arteta's position next to Song, the lack of creativity wasn't his fault. All Wenger's fault imo - Benayoun and Rosicky's lack of quality, and Arshavin and Walcott's lack of consistency are all his decision on who to sign and who not to sign.

IronChef · Post #46 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:11 pm

Walcott looked good a few months ago, but is now useless. I wouldn't blame Wenger entirely. Gazidis is in charge of player movement now, Wenger identifies targets, Gazidis signs and negotiates.

IronChef · Post #47 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:17 pm

Certainly missed Arteta. At least he and Vermaelan will be back for next week.

BC_ · Post #48 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:21 pm

IronChef wrote:Certainly missed Arteta. At least he and Vermaelan will be back for next week.

Partly Arteta's quality, partly not having Ramsey behind the strikers, and partly not having the familiarity in midfield Song-Arteta-Ramsey have.

Another game Wilshere would likely have made the difference in.

Ted Lasso · Post #49 » by **Ted Lasso** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:33 pm

Most of Arsenal's offensive midfielders look spent/impotent. I'm surprised Wenger hasn't given Oxlade-Chamberlain more of an opportunity.

On the other hand, that Miquel is pure class. He is going to be a hell of a defender.

Ted Lasso · Post #50 » by **Ted Lasso** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:37 pm

If i were an Arsenal fan i'd be very understanding of today, and this season in general. It's tough to win when you're missing Wilshere, Arteta, Santos, and Sagna.

Frankly, i hope they make into the top 4 ahead of Chelsea.

IronChef · Post #51 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:40 pm

MIquel does look good, even out of position at LB. He, Chamberlain, and Coquelin certainly give some hope. Coquelin reminds me of Flamini with his fire and versatility, but he's better technically than Flamini.

Ted Lasso · Post #52 » by **Ted Lasso** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:49 pm

I haven't had a chance to see much of Coquelin at his natural position. He was just awful at Old Trafford, but i imagine that was an exceptional situation.

It's going to be tough to accommodate both Vermaelen and Miquel eventually. All Miquel needs to do is to add some upper body strength over the summer and he is good to go, in my opinion.

Edit: I actually saw Coquelin away at Olympiakos as well. Wasn't much good there either. I like Frimpong better so far.

BC_ · Post #53 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:51 pm

IronChef wrote:MIquel does look good, even out of position at LB. He, Chamberlain, and Coquelin certainly give some hope. Coquelin reminds me of Flamini with his fire and versatility, but he's better technically than Flamini.

Philippe Auclair said on the arsecast this week he doesn't think Le Coq's ceiling is very high. Made me sad because Auclair usually knows his stuff.

BC_ · Post #54 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:55 pm

Chandler Bing wrote:It's going to be tough to accommodate both Vermaelen and Miquel eventually.

They're both left-footed so I guess so... they're very different players though.
Koscielny is borderline world class now as well.

IronChef · Post #55 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:59 pm

BC_ wrote:
IronChef wrote:MIquel does look good, even out of position at LB. He, Chamberlain, and Coquelin certainly give some hope. Coquelin reminds me of Flamini with his fire and versatility, but he's better technically than Flamini.

Philippe Auclair said on the arsecast this week he doesn't think Le Coq's ceiling is very high. Made me sad because Auclair usually knows his stuff.

I don't know. I can't see him being a world beater, but I think he can develop into a world class midfielder.

IronChef · Post #56 » by **IronChef** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:01 pm

BC_ wrote:
Chandler Bing wrote:It's going to be tough to accommodate both Vermaelen and Miquel eventually.
They're both left-footed so I guess so... they're very different players though.
Koscielny is borderline world class now as well.

Koscielny is fantastic. One of the real bright spots in our season. Can't wait to see Gibbs-Vermaelan-Koscielny-Sagna all on the pitch at one time.

Ted Lasso · Post #57 » by **Ted Lasso** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:07 pm

BC_ wrote:
Chandler Bing wrote:It's going to be tough to accommodate both Vermaelen and Miquel eventually.
They're both left-footed so I guess so... they're very different players though.
Koscielny is borderline world class now as well.

Very different players indeed. But one of them would have to be comfortable playing on the right. That would also mean sacrificing Mertesacker. I love his game, despite the initial struggles.

Koscielny has definitely improved but i'm still not very high on him.

BC_ · Post #58 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:10 pm

IronChef wrote:
BC_ wrote:
IronChef wrote:MIquel does look good, even out of position at LB. He, Chamberlain, and Coquelin certainly give some hope. Coquelin reminds me of Flamini with his fire and versatility, but he's better technically than Flamini.

Philippe Auclair said on the arsecast this week he doesn't think Le Coq's ceiling is very high. Made me sad because Auclair usually knows his stuff.

I don't know. I can't see him being a world beater, but I think he can develop into a world class midfielder.

Maybe he'll do that at DM. I'd been hoping he'd make the jump to a Wilshere-type box-to-box mid. :dontknow:

Post #59 » by **5DOM** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:11 pm

BC_ wrote:
nmabdi28 wrote:back to back losses wenger, this one's on you and ramsey , and a lack of effort.

Ramsey looked tired but he was playing in Arteta's position next to Song, the lack of creativity wasn't his fault. All Wenger's fault imo - Benayoun and Rosicky's lack of quality, and Arshavin and Walcott's lack of consistency are all his decision on who to sign and who not to sign.

It might get much tougher for at least two of Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea to sign the players they want because of the limited CL spots. I think Arsenal should spend this window.

BC_ · Post #60 » by **BC_** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:14 pm

5DOM wrote:
BC_ wrote:
nmabdi28 wrote:back to back losses wenger, this one's on you and ramsey , and a lack of effort.

Ramsey looked tired but he was playing in Arteta's position next to Song, the lack of creativity wasn't his fault. All Wenger's fault imo - Benayoun and Rosicky's lack of quality, and Arshavin and Walcott's lack of consistency are all his decision on who to sign and who not to sign.

It might get much tougher for at least two of Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea to sign the players they want because of the limited CL spots. I think Arsenal should spend this window.

60m profit from last summer waiting to be spent :nod: