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1/16 Orlando Postgame thread

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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#81 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:55 pm

moocow007 wrote:So then why are we 3rd in the league in 3 point attempts??? Because despite D'Antoni telling them otherwise, the players override their coaches better judgment and chuck anyways?

No the system is designed to get those shots. The system is successful in getting open looks from the perimeter. We just aren't knocking them down.

What is the alternative with no PG? Iso ball. Which also isn't working.

So what offense do you suggest that overcomes no playmaker and nobody making open shots?
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#82 » by br7knicks » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:55 pm

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god shammgod wrote:they shot their open shots well. we didn't. it was really that simple.



so you don't think novak or josh should have been in the game at all?


you're not gonna take out melo/tyson/amare at the end of a game. he could have brought in bibby. seriously though, not just in the 4th, we need our guards to make jumpers. it's the only reason they could stay in the zone. nobody can shoot.



i've been saying that about bibby. but you could've taken amare or tyson out. jorts was doing an ok job with howard, who wasn't doing anything on offense anyway - jorts also had fouls to give if he needed to hack howard to send him to the line. amare doesn't do well with the zone either. he needs to be given space, or work a PnR
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Post#83 » by Ron1 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:56 pm

GONYK wrote:For 3.5 qtrs, this loss was better than most of our wins.

I completely agree about putting in Novak and taking out either STAT or Chandler.

What!?! A move that makes sense!?! Unfortunately for us we have a clueless coach and a pittafully overpaid PF. :noway:
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#84 » by SolidSnake008 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:56 pm

Magic fan here....tough loss fellas...but i feel you guys are a playoff team...One thing though wasn't Melo suppose to be playing Point-Forward? and why don't you guys use Chandler in the pick and roll more....is it because Iman isn't a true PG?
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#85 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:56 pm

ITGM wrote:This game was excrementitious


Excrementalism is the risk you accept in the Hot or Not System.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#86 » by Desttro » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:56 pm

The biggest problem is everybody in the NBA saw what that zone did the Knicks. Their guards can't shoot.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#87 » by dreamer3kx » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:56 pm

If we're going to play iso ball you have to have shooters in there.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#88 » by moocow007 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

Danger_doom1 wrote:i love how after every knick loss we get about 50 pages of "fire dantoni, trade amare landry and douglas,this team sucks so much we have no hope, play balkman it'll be a major game changer"

and as soon as the next game starts against a **** team its, we got this we have to win this i expect an 88 94 victory

shut the **** up yall we're 6-7 at least we arent the bobcats or the celtics. relax


Wait so now as long as we're better than the Bobcats we're ok? Who's got that cliip from Mad TV's Lowered Expectations handy?
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#89 » by evevale » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

MDA in postgame interview: "We held them to 102 ... just gotta score more than that"

HAHAH!!! HELD them to 102 as an accomplishment? smfh
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#90 » by hAIR_NY89 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

LOL

'antoni sounds envious talking about the Magic's 3 point shooting
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Re: Knicks vs magic postgame 

Post#91 » by ctorres » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

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i don't want to take away from anderson or jj. i think anderson is a 3rd tier player, one that'll avg. 15 and 8 + for a few seasons. but they can't be that hard to defend man



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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#92 » by Spike99 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

D'antioni needs to go. I was hoping that he would have this extra year and be more productive, but this 4th was atrocious. If you want to have your team shoot 3 pointers, then put in your shooters. If your getting beat by the three pointer, then maybe loosen up on Dwight. And when your star player can't even get up the court, then call a timeout.

Ugh, very frustrating to lose like this.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#93 » by Red Vines » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

evevale wrote:MDA in postgame interview: "We held them to 102 ... just gotta score more than that"

HAHAH!!! HELD them to 102 as an accomplishment? smfh


Wow.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#94 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

Iman Shumpert wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:you don't have to beat a zone by shooting 3's...amare hit 2 mid range jumpers...the elbow jumper is a spot open in the zone defense. Yet we didn't give him a look there.

We are not a 3 pt shooting team yet our coach wants us to be....simple its his fault

You beat the zone by getting to the middle of the floor and collapsing the zone. What did we do? Play hot potato. Ball swings to Shumpert, to Melo, to Douglas, back to Melo, to Shumpert....rinse, repeat. Nobody wanted to drive.


because mike wants floor spacing....he is the coach he could have called a play for amare or tyson to flash in middle but he didn't.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#95 » by Jay10 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

what's the situation with the knicks draft picks traded to the nuggets?
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#96 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

Baron Davis please come back during this home stand lol
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#97 » by br7knicks » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

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especially towards the end. jorts has been doing great.

and how the hell do the knicks not play defense against the outside shooters. in rec league, if a guy isn't hitting 3's, you back off. if he starts hitting, you get in his face and not let him shoot any more 3's.

yeah, GONYK, the magic just shot the hell out of the ball. but it was also because no one was defending them. the magic shooters did what they're paid to do. against any other team with a coach that makes adjustments, the magic are going to get pecker smacked


That's exactly my point. The Magic have shooters that actually make shots. We don't.


but that's offense. you and i were talking defense before.

but on the offensive end, you're 100% right. but jorts, novak, and bibby weren't given a chance to show they can do anything towards the end. that's not the players fault.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#98 » by MaseInYourFace » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:57 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:Magic fan here....tough loss fellas...but i feel you guys are a playoff team...One thing though wasn't Melo suppose to be playing Point-Forward? and why don't you guys use Chandler in the pick and roll more....is it because Iman isn't a true PG?


Dantoni doesn't want to use Melo completely as Point Forward because Melo is too good of a scorer and he wants to feature him as a scorer. Yeah Iman is not a true PG...
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#99 » by dreamer3kx » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:58 pm

evevale wrote:MDA in postgame interview: "We held them to 102 ... just gotta score more than that"

HAHAH!!! HELD them to 102 as an accomplishment? smfh


OMG, fire this man, go coach Euro ball please, please, please man.
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Re: 1/16 Orlando Postgame thread 

Post#100 » by god shammgod » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:58 pm

evevale wrote:MDA in postgame interview: "We held them to 102 ... just gotta score more than that"

HAHAH!!! HELD them to 102 as an accomplishment? smfh


i'm guessing they average more then that

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