Clippers now on Dwight Howard

[azncorruptedo17]

Somewhat disagree? Come on now take those homer glasses off for one minute and re-analyse that statement. Dwight averages 11 defensive rebounds to Jordan's 5. Dwight also gets 1.5 steals per game. Obviously they bought change a lot of shots while Dwight is the King of that. And all that energy Dwight puts in to being the best defensive player in the NBA he still scores 20 per game at near 60% shooting every year as their go to option.

You also don't realize that DJ is not #1,#2#3 or even #4 on offense. His points are off of put backs and alley oops, of course he's not gonna get 20ppg, but i do expect a 10ppg/10rpg/3bpg. d12 has no choice but to avg those numbers, the team is either live and die by the 3 OR feed d12.

I'd rather have him avg 6 Offensive rebounds than 8 defensive rebounds. You also don't factor in that we have 2 GREAT rebounders, even though it doesn't go to DJ, it goes to Blake or vice versa, vs dwight contending with who? Don't get me wrong, d12 is a tremendous rebounder, but we have 2 people that can rebound as good as him.

DJ Does change a lot of shots, do you remember the portland game they won when they placed him on aldridge?

My point is, d12 is a great player, but not even close to what our team needs. We know that d12 doesn't want to come to the clippers, and that's fine... but we were making points as to why it would be a bad/unnecessary trade which i believe i've done

[eureca20]

You also don't realize that DJ is not #1,#2#3 or even #4 on offense. His points are off of put backs and alley oops, of course he's not gonna get 20ppg, but i do expect a 10ppg/10rpg/3bpg. d12 has no choice but to avg those numbers, the team is either live and die by the 3 OR feed d12.

I'd rather have him avg 6 Offensive rebounds than 8 defensive rebounds. You also don't factor in that we have 2 GREAT rebounders, even though it doesn't go to DJ, it goes to Blake or vice versa, vs dwight contending with who? Don't get me wrong, d12 is a tremendous rebounder, but we have 2 people that can rebound as good as him.

DJ Does change a lot of shots, do you remember the portland game they won when they placed him on aldridge?

My point is, d12 is a great player, but not even close to what our team needs. We know that d12 doesn't want to come to the clippers, and that's fine... but we were making points as to why it would be a bad/unnecessary trade which i believe i've done

I absolutely realize DeAndre isnt even the 4th option on the Clippers. I wasnt comparing DJ to Dwight in terms of their offense. Obviously DJ is extremely limited offensively. I was pointing out Dwight still has the energy to be the best defensive player in the NBA and be his team's focal point on offense. Just praising Dwight.

Sorry if I wasn't clear I do think DJ changes shots at a great degree as well.

As for offensive rebounds Dwight nearly doubles DJ in offensive rebounds I was just talking about defensive rebounds because the original discussion was talking about you "somewhat disagreeing" that DJ isn't as good as Dwight on the defensive end who is heading for his 4th straight defensive player of the year award.

You say I don't factor in Clippers have 2 great rebounders. I do think they do in Blake and Reggie Evans. DeAndre Jordan hasn't shown great rebounding numbers when hes played starter's minutes. Not saying he can't but he isn't proven. And again you are acting like I said Clippers should trade DeAndre and Blake for Howard when I said they shouldn't. I dont think your team needs Dwight never thought that. Wing defenders would probably help especially at the 2. I mainly posted to reply to your "somewhat disagree" that Dwight is better then DJ defensively.

[azncorruptedo17]

as long as we both agree they shouldn't, that's all that matters.

[mkwest]

As Magic plot to keep Howard, other scenarios blossom

As reported by SheridanHoops.com this week, the Clippers have emerged as a potential landing spot for Howard, and for good reasons, league sources confirm. The Clippers are not involved in any way, shape or form in current trade talks with the Magic, nor has Howard or Fegan asked for or been given permission to speak with the other team in L.A. That's because the Clippers are not a trade option for this season, but rather a logical landing spot for Howard via a sign-and-trade after he opts out of his contract July 1.

A lot would have to happen -- and not happen -- for the Clippers scenario to gain traction. The Magic would have to hold onto Howard past the deadline and be prepared to enter a complicated and high-stakes game of chicken with their franchise player. Howard would have to turn down the chance to sign a four-year deal with the Nets, who have the cap room and the ability to pair him with Deron Williams in a new Brooklyn arena. He also would have to balk at signing with the Mavericks, who are a couple of moves away from clearing enough space to get both Howard and Williams.

If you're the Clippers, and you have the chance to team Dwight Howard with Chris Paul, you do it -- even if it means trading Griffin. If you're the Magic, and you're losing Howard anyway, what better way to replace him than with perhaps the only young player in the NBA who is as freakishly athletic and dynamic -- and, unlike LeBron James and Dwayne Wade, will continue to have those attributes for another 10 years?

Given the alternatives, would a package including Griffin and DeAndre Jordan provide the Magic with enough basketball and marketing assets to walk away from the loss of Howard in great shape on both fronts? You bet it would.

And if you don't think the Clippers would part with Griffin in a Howard trade, you disagree with a top talent evaluator I floated this scenario by Thursday. He said the Clippers would do it "in five seconds," and he gave that answer in less than one. From a technical standpoint, scouts are skeptical that Griffin's game will continue to evolve, but it's difficult to think of a player in the league who'd generate as much marketing and fan excitement as Howard's replacement.

Griffin was the magnet that unexpectedly got Paul to the Clippers, and Paul already has chased the laughingstock status away. Just look at them, beating the Heat and Lakers in consecutive games and then taking down the defending champion Mavs in a thriller Wednesday night. If things break a certain way, and if all else fails for the Magic, these two star-crossed franchises could team up for a stunner.

Ken Berger, CBS Sports

[roc]

that is a fairly dumb article IMO

IF the Dwight drama makes it to July 1st ORL only leverage is giving Dwight an extra year. That is not enough for them to expect a Blake Griffin in return at that point.

IF Dwight decides at that time he wants to be a Clipper then LAC can easily get the capspace as has been pointed out.

so

A possible DJ to GSW gets used as leverage to see if ORL wants to cave and give D12 that extra year in a SnT or watch him leave with no compensation at all.