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[clockwork]

Ya lets pass it to Landry Fields... the same guy who can't hit a 3 pointer to save his life this season.. when Melo hit a game tying bucket to end the 4th.. sorry but I'd rather the turnover then letting Fields brick a shot and leaving more then the 0.3 that Melo's turnover left.

that statement is the most ridiculously stupid thing i've seen on this board.

a wide open shot to make a 3 vs turnover - and you'd take the turnover? how illogically deluded are you?

[CrazyKnicks]

oh my...

http://twitter.com/#!/therrick20/status/160970291001036801/photo/1

Happened on numerous occasions. Guy is showing his true colors.

EDIT: Also see if they have the one at the end of the 4th where Shump had a whole side of the court to himself.

Ya lets pass it to Landry Fields... the same guy who can't hit a 3 pointer to save his life this season.. when Melo hit a game tying bucket to end the 4th.. sorry but I'd rather the turnover then letting Fields brick a shot and leaving more then the 0.3 that Melo's turnover left.

So shooting over 3 people is the right thing to do?

There is absolutely no excuse for that type of play, can't believe you're defending him on this. Yes, you make the pass to the open guy. If Fields misses then you move on, you made the right play. And Fields was playing well, he hits that shot and it gives him confidence going forward. End of the 4th when Melo missed we had a wide open Shumpert. It's toxic play and those guys are NBA guards, they can hit open shots.

EDIT: And just to give you an idea, yesterday against the Clips, Rubio was like 0-10 and made his first fg as a game tying 3 pointer in the last minute. And they won the game, coincidence?

[qbiggz]

That play that melo send game to overtime was his play he had to take that shot i don't thing toney douglas or shumpert could have send this game into overtime he is our max player that what he is suppose to do. If somebody else took this shot like douglas or shumpert and missed it we would be blasting them if they didn't make that shot either so it works both ways.

Remember in Game 2 against the Celtics last season when he passed up taking the final shot and threw it inside to Jeffries who turned it over? People were killing him for that, he can't win.

Again, not saying going 1 on 3 is ever the right play, but in his mind shooting over those three guys gave them just as good of a chance to win as passing to Fields or Douglas did. Especially since he had already done it once in regulation.

[kmpoaquests]

man fkn team hasn't lost this many in a row even with isiah in charge.

this is B.S.

our bench is trash
I feel woodson's being undermined by dantoni's crew
mike d is insane. he doesn't know how to milk the fkn clock especially when your up by 3

i can't remember the last time bill walker didn't have a dumbass look on his face
amare is playing like a 3rd string PF - distanced from his first season of MVP's chants from the rafters

they should bench carmelo and let him heal or tell him to cough the fkn ball up - If i see him chuck another ball up then management might as well have offered jamal crawford max money

+ we need more scrappy guys like tyson chandler ... if anyone took a second look at how he changes shots just with his presence would see his value especially when he fouls out

Last thing to note is how the hell does shumpert have bionic speed to run so fast that he makes everyone else on the court look like they are walking ? why can't our entire squad run like that .... **** I mean it aint like we have curry still . . . .

/fume*

[BBALLER4FR]

Re: Melo being a selfish player, that is determined by individual opinions. But I can say that he's not a selfish person, far from it. Can we stop attacking players off the court unless it's justified. Along with their family, that's just uncalled for.

Melo's game is, has been and may always be selfish. If you know him off the court cool. His approach to team play has been atrocious starting from the offseason when he chose the Wade/Bron/Cp3 tour over his teammates in NY. Way to sacrifice Melo

[Red Vines]

^Miller could get to Landry easy in that pic and as soon as Melo turns to pass it to TD, Brewer is right there in the passing lane. Looks simpler in a still pic than it really is in live action.

[K_ick_God]

In the final sum, I believe Turk will have the significantly better career. He is the better player.

I want to be gracious because tonight the Melo detractors and Gallo supporters look great, admittedly, but I'm not inclined to take Gallo's 18 FTs as solid evidence that Gallo is headed to the HOF. If he averages 20 PPG in any season, I'll admit that I was wrong. Until then, I don't believe Gallon has the stuff to be a standout NBA impact player. I might be proven wrong but I think Gallo's talent and NBA game are not going to be proven very good in the long run and 15 up and down games have not moved the needle much for me ... But he is having his best season and getting a little better.

Hedo has never averaged 20ppg

19.5. I'll round up for Gallo too.

[TKF]

That play that melo send game to overtime was his play he had to take that shot i don't thing toney douglas or shumpert could have send this game into overtime he is our max player that what he is suppose to do. If somebody else took this shot like douglas or shumpert and missed it we would be blasting them if they didn't make that shot either so it works both ways.

Remember in Game 2 against the Celtics last season when he passed up taking the final shot and threw it inside to Jeffries who turned it over? People were killing him for that, he can't win.

Again, not saying going 1 on 3 is ever the right play, but in his mind shooting over those three guys gave them just as good of a chance to win as passing to Fields or Douglas did. Especially since he had already done it once in regulation.

well actually most said it was the right thing to do.. just the wrong person. jeffries is absolutely the wrong person at all times almost, but you still need to do the right thing.. tonight , the right thing would have been to hit the open man...

[Jay10]

carmelo = raymond felton

"i only trust myself with the ball at the end of games" <paraphrase of a raymond felton interview on espn during a game against the spurs last year.

[johnnywishbone]

In the final sum, I believe Turk will have the significantly better career. He is the better player.

I want to be gracious because tonight the Melo detractors and Gallo supporters look great, admittedly, but I'm not inclined to take Gallo's 18 FTs as solid evidence that Gallo is headed to the HOF. If he averages 20 PPG in any season, I'll admit that I was wrong. Until then, I don't believe Gallon has the stuff to be a standout NBA impact player. I might be proven wrong but I think Gallo's talent and NBA game are not going to be proven very good in the long run and 15 up and down games have not moved the needle much for me ... But he is having his best season and getting a little better.

Hedo has never averaged 20ppg

The Magic would trade Hedo for Gallo so fast that it might change the way we perceive time.

[moocow007]

Marbury ripping Pringles tonight on Twitter:

"they need one more basketball and a new coach."

"Melo is not a DPHONY type of GUY."

"he doesn't have a system. Just play is his system. 5 years of hood winking"

The ultimate pot calling kettle black.

Marbury wasn't a coach. Melo isn't a D'Antoni guy. D'Antoni doesn't have a system. The only thing Marbury got wrong is it hasn't been 5 years.

[taj2133]

In all seriousness i hope gallo gets contract extension with the nuggets so he can be there for long time and all gallo fans can talk about gallo on nuggets board because i am getting sick and tired about talking about gallo every single days it seems we talk about gallo rather then knicks basketball here its nuggets fans second board.

[Im Coming Home]

Ya lets pass it to Landry Fields... the same guy who can't hit a 3 pointer to save his life this season.. when Melo hit a game tying bucket to end the 4th.. sorry but I'd rather the turnover then letting Fields brick a shot and leaving more then the 0.3 that Melo's turnover left.

So shooting over 3 people is the right thing to do?

There is absolutely no excuse for that type of play, can't believe you're defending him on this. Yes, you make the pass to the open guy. If Fields misses then you move on, you made the right play. And Fields was playing well, he hits that shot and it gives him confidence going forward. End of the 4th when Melo missed we had a wide open Shumpert. It's toxic play and those guys are NBA guards, they can hit open shots.

EDIT: And just to give you an idea, yesterday against the Clips, Rubio was like 0-10 and made his first fg as a game tying 3 pointer in the last minute. And they won the game, coincidence?

I'm not entirely defending him.. I mean sure he should have hit the open man.. but giving the way Fields has been shooting threes... it might've given Denver a chance to win it. Lets say... Landry shoots the 3, and it misses, Denver gets the rebound, calls time.. and ends up leaving like 1.2 on the clock.. its A LOT easier to score with 1.2 left then 0.3.. that is all I'm saying. Sure it would've been nice if we had Ray Allen there, but it is Landry Fields, I love Landry's game, but his game isn't shooting 3 pointers.

[BBALLER4FR]

^Miller could get to Landry easy in that pic and as soon as Melo turns to pass it to TD, Brewer is right there in the passing lane. Looks simpler in a still pic than it really is in live action.

Well a) the problem started when Melo decided to stand there dribbling for 6 seconds before the photographer took that doozie of a snapshot (yeah that's right there was 8+ seconds on the clock preceeding that 3pt extended 3 man post-up move Melo had on full display). And b) so you feel like Melo going up against 3 guys a few feet behind the 3 pt line and heaving (or losing it which was thes actually result) is better than letting Fields or Douglas shoot an open or slightly contested shot? Uh-huh.

[qbiggz]

Ya lets pass it to Landry Fields... the same guy who can't hit a 3 pointer to save his life this season.. when Melo hit a game tying bucket to end the 4th.. sorry but I'd rather the turnover then letting Fields brick a shot and leaving more then the 0.3 that Melo's turnover left.

So shooting over 3 people is the right thing to do?

There is absolutely no excuse for that type of play, can't believe you're defending him on this. Yes, you make the pass to the open guy. If Fields misses then you move on, you made the right play. And Fields was playing well, he hits that shot and it gives him confidence going forward. End of the 4th when Melo missed we had a wide open Shumpert. It's toxic play and those guys are NBA guards, they can hit open shots.

EDIT: And just to give you an idea, yesterday against the Clips, Rubio was like 0-10 and made his first fg as a game tying 3 pointer in the last minute. And they won the game, coincidence?

I'm not entirely defending him.. I mean sure he should have hit the open man.. but giving the way Fields has been shooting threes... it might've given Denver a chance to win it. Lets say... Landry shoots the 3, and it misses, Denver gets the rebound, calls time.. and ends up leaving like 1.2 on the clock.. its A LOT easier to score with 1.2 left then 0.3.. that is all I'm saying. Sure it would've been nice if we had Ray Allen there, but it is Landry Fields, I love Landry's game, but his game isn't shooting 3 pointers.

It's a horrible play no doubt. But when you don't trust your teammates to make an open shot, which they have not consistently been doing all season, you're going to go with what you feel is the best chance to win. I just worry that the coaches and/or his teammates do not point this out to him, ignore it, and choose to let him do the same thing again given a similar situation.

[GnarlesOakley]

Tonight Gallo and the girl I want showed me you can't look for success.

Seriously though, the Knicks failed.

[CrazyKnicks]

I'm not entirely defending him.. I mean sure he should have hit the open man.. but giving the way Fields has been shooting threes... it might've given Denver a chance to win it. Lets say... Landry shoots the 3, and it misses, Denver gets the rebound, calls time.. and ends up leaving like 1.2 on the clock.. its A LOT easier to score with 1.2 left then 0.3.. that is all I'm saying. Sure it would've been nice if we had Ray Allen there, but it is Landry Fields, I love Landry's game, but his game isn't shooting 3 pointers.

First of all, there was 2.8secs left, by the time Melo passes and Fields shoots there would be les than 1sec left. And if your scenario did occur, you live with it. You gave a guy capable of hitting a 3pointer at a decent rate a wide open look. It's a good shot and more likely than not, an NBA guard is going to hit that. He hasn't been knocking down shots left and right but he's not Rondo bad... If Andre Miller can hit that lucky bs he threw, then Fields can hit a wide open 3ptr.

[qbiggz]

And yes, there is a reason why they're open. Denver didn't want Melo to beat them, and they don't respect the shooting abilities of those two. Different story if we had legitimate shooters on the wing there.

[Red Vines]

^Miller could get to Landry easy in that pic and as soon as Melo turns to pass it to TD, Brewer is right there in the passing lane. Looks simpler in a still pic than it really is in live action.

Well a) the problem started when Melo decided to stand there dribbling for 6 seconds before the photographer took that doozie of a snapshot (yeah that's right there was 8+ seconds on the clock preceeding that 3pt extended 3 man post-up move Melo had on full display). And b) so you feel like Melo going up against 3 guys a few feet behind the 3 pt line and heaving (or losing it which was thes actually result) is better than letting Fields or Douglas shoot an open or slightly contested shot? Uh-huh.

It's hard to know exactly what Melo saw during that play, I doubt he saw both players open at the same time and chose to go 1 on 3. As the clock was winding down all 3 defenders closed in on him. It's not like we're experienced playing together and everyone knows what to do in that situation.

[HerSports85]

Re: Melo being a selfish player, that is determined by individual opinions. But I can say that he's not a selfish person, far from it. Can we stop attacking players off the court unless it's justified. Along with their family, that's just uncalled for.

Melo's game is, has been and may always be selfish. If you know him off the court cool. His approach to team play has been atrocious starting from the offseason when he chose the Wade/Bron/Cp3 tour over his teammates in NY. Way to sacrifice Melo

Huh? Wasn't the tour cancelled so he and other players can focus on getting ready? On top of that, I don't see the problem, like I said off the court he's a very generous person who's actually quiet. But, that tour was suppose to earn a significant amount of money for 4 cities, more deserving New Orleans and Akron. Not to mention, after it was cancelled they still feed over 1000 families.

Now the reason he didn't join Amare for workouts was because of traveling and his son, that's why he wanted to wait until everyone returned to NY.

But I agree, he need to move the ball more and trust his teammates. He has to learn that being an allstar in this league involve making your team better and I said this before, losing these games may be what's needed. He's sounding very humble right now.