How do we keep the offensive flow when Wade comes back?

[RexBoyWonder]

this could be the biggest question for us this season, and the biggest challenge for Spo and his staff.

i think all TRUE Heat fans can agree that :

1.Wade will never be traded, nor should he be. he made us what we are today, he's our heart and soul.

2.Wade is a top 5 player (at least) in the league when healthy, and probably the best SG in the NBA.

WITH THAT SAID - i think we can all see that when Wade is out, our balance on the court is considerably better. IT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE BETTER WITHOUT HIM, it just means that when he's out, we are able to get more out of our other pieces.

The key for is to get Wade back into the lineup While keeping the balance we have right now.

there are quite a few things i can see us doing to help that process, ill just name a couple of ideas :

1. Get Dwyane to really work on his mid-range jumper, and make him more of a Pure SG (off the ball)with designed plays set up to get him his shots and Penetrations. if he could extand his range to 3-point shots - that would be very useful.

2. Make evey Wade minute count. what i mean by that is - i often see him take possession off on D, just to save some energy. i think the team will gain by him giving us just 30 minutes a night, but make them count. this will also keep him fresh for the playoffs.

any more ideas?

[Jinsaryko]

Leave it to some Heat fans to come to conclusions after a couple of games at the start of the season. Maybe we need to wait and see how a healthy D-Wade fairs before we start down this road..

All this talk about limiting his minutes or even worse, forcing him to come off the bench is ridiculous in my opinion. Hell I'm even hearing people suggesting that Wade tone it down a bit and learn to defer to Lebron from now on. IMO, that's not the Wade we need to win in the playoffs. We need both Lebron and Wade going full force, something that was working out well in the playoffs last year(up until the finals).

Heat fans always complain about how the media never gives Wade the respect he deserves. Well no kidding, seeing as his own fan base treats his the same way at times. Sorry if I come off harsh, but this stuff is really getting to me.

[EscapoTHB]

I thought our offense was fine with him. The main problem was he was injured, and not finishing like he should. When he's in there we just run more post ups for Lebron and Wade.

[RexBoyWonder]

i see no reason to get all bent out of shape here. it's perfectly resonable to talk about Adjustments the team needs to make in order to get better. u can always get better, no team is perfect.

the idea behind limiting his minute to 30 a night is to create a time when he is expected to dominate, i think both he and Lebron enjoy having 3 point shooters around them, that gives them the space to create.

[kyphi]

rotation of players - if the Heat are sincere about winning it all, egos shouldn't matter -

[sooie92]

As much as I like D-Wade as a player... he should take a backseat to LeBron.. it's best for the team. Championship or Bust. Leggo.

[TRG]

As much as I like D-Wade as a player... he should take a backseat to LeBron.. it's best for the team. Championship or Bust. Leggo.

Great the troll is back...

[SweetTouch]

As much as I like D-Wade as a player... he should take a backseat to LeBron.. it's best for the team. Championship or Bust. Leggo.

they see me trolling, they hating

[OtW]

LeBron and Wade played well together during the beginning of the season when both of them would go into the post, and receive cuts to the basket from each other, or when they just overpowered their defender to the hoop.

I hope Wade has been working a bit on his mid-range jumpers-- it was a beauty to see early in the season when he would catch and shot them off screens like Ray Allen. Everyone just needs to play off the ball more, and more of Wade/LeBron on the post. That crap draws a lot of double teams.

[DefenseWins]

I think Wade should be more of a passer, he penetrates better. Especially since Miller and Battier have entered, unless Wade gets a good look at the basket.

There have been times where the Heat would go on a roll just because of Wade getting guys open and he's hitting them and good things happen if they make their shots.

the Heat vs ATL game was a indicator of that. Wade was passing, good things were happening. Then he takes the dumbest shots and somewhat cost the game for the Heat. When he's injured he's flat out terrible. I don't get why he does this in the 4th quarter of all quarters when the team is trying to battle back or take a lead...

Also... getting Bosh more involved. The pick and pop with LBJ and Bosh is fantastic. You don't see that a lot when Wade handles the ball.

ALSO, Wade off a screen with a catch and shoot is also very good. More catch and shoots with LBJ (seen it the past few games) and Wade is unstoppable. What can a team possibly do if both of them are hitting their jumpers?

With a HEALTHY Wade everything will be fine. If he comes back 80%.... oh god....

oh and Wade seems to be better in the post than LBJ when kicking it out In the beginning of the season of loved it when they were in the post and dictating the offense, it worked.

[This IsMy House]

Just continue doing what were doing, were getting everyone touches, and continue to feed the hot hand. Wade is a very smart and mature player and can figure out where he fits in on the offensive flow. I don't understand how all of sudden Heat fans are questioning what to do with Wade, the guy who is the face of our franchise (to the real fans), the guy who stuck out some awful season without ever asking to be traded, and the guy who turned down millions to stay and bring in other players. He loves this team and the team loves him, they'll figure it out. If they can figure out how to bring in LeBron and Bosh, I'm sure they can do this.

[sooie92]

HOW AM I TROLLING? All I'm doing is sharing my opinions what I really think. I'm not going to get mad at what you have to say because it's your opinion. Let's set an example, when MJ and Scottie played together in the 90s.. They both had different roles, Scottie was handling the ball more and distribute the ball more than MJ did. MJ on the other hand, moved WITHOUT the ball to get himself a good shot, so he was more of a scorer.

Want another example?
When Celtics got a big 3, they both had different roles, Kevin is a PF to get boards and play defense, Paul Pierce is a SF who's the main scorer, Ray Allen is a 3pter.

Now look at us, We have 2 very similar players, I don't care if LeBron takes a backseat to Wade or Wade takes a backseat to LeBron. One of these guys need to adjust their game a little bit.

Like I said, I feel like Wade stops the flow of the offense sometimes, and forces alot of fadeaway jumpers. As of right now, LeBron is the best player in the game, Wade turned 30, So one of these guys need to change their role, one of them has to take a backseat. It's just my opinon, you disagree, so be it. Championship or Bust. All I want is a Championship, NOT TROLLING. lol.

[Moggs24]

Well I think we need to do some things differently when Wade comes back. What people are forgetting is that what wade and Lebron on the court at the same time gives us is the ability to get hot and run off a 20 - 0 run in 5 minutes, what it also leads to is period of stagnation where we look totally lost. In my opinion this falls on the coaches rotations to give the team a good mix of minutes where Wade and Lebron can flourish off the ball and on the ball alike.

I really think these wide open lineups featuring both battier and Miller on the court with either Lebron and Wade have a place for the long haul, but they simply need to be mixed in properly with the flow of the game and depending on which star is feeling it at that given moment. I hope Spolsra is more flexible in his rotations in the future b/c he'll often pull a hot player off the court just cause that was the plan.

On other thing I have liked with Wade out is they are allowing Lebron to get a feel for the ball in the 1st quarter. What I mean by that is he is getting a lot of touches to work out his shot so that he feels comfortable as the game progresses. When Wade comes back they have to try and get there stars easy shots early when the D is loose so they feel acclimated in the offense.

[DWadeno3]

I don't understand the issue with this topic. In the first two games of the season, when Wade was actually healthy, our offense was a beauty to watch. We destroyed Boston and Dallas and if it wasn't for our players checking out of games too early, those games would've ended up being the blowout games they deserved to be. This was not an issue with our offense itself though, it was just a matter of feeling to comfortable with a 20-point-lead and the two best players in the game and a top-tier PF.

[sooie92]

I think Wade should be more of a passer, he penetrates better. Especially since Miller and Battier have entered, unless Wade gets a good look at the basket.

There have been times where the Heat would go on a roll just because of Wade getting guys open and he's hitting them and good things happen if they make their shots.

the Heat vs ATL game was a indicator of that. Wade was passing, good things were happening. Then he takes the dumbest shots and somewhat cost the game for the Heat. When he's injured he's flat out terrible. I don't get why he does this in the 4th quarter of all quarters when the team is trying to battle back or take a lead...

Also... getting Bosh more involved. The pick and pop with LBJ and Bosh is fantastic. You don't see that a lot when Wade handles the ball.

ALSO, Wade off a screen with a catch and shoot is also very good. More catch and shoots with LBJ (seen it the past few games) and Wade is unstoppable. What can a team possibly do if both of them are hitting their jumpers?

With a HEALTHY Wade everything will be fine. If he comes back 80%.... oh god....

oh and Wade seems to be better in the post than LBJ when kicking it out In the beginning of the season of loved it when they were in the post and dictating the offense, it worked.

Exactly my point, there is good and bad when Wade is out. We still NEED Wade for the playoffs no doubt. Like you said I dont see alot of LBJ/BOSH pick and pop chemistry when Wade is on the court. I feel that Wade should let LBJ dominate the ball more, Wade should move without the ball which he's pretty good at. It's like whenever D-Wade has the ball, LBJ is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). When LBJ has the ball, D-Wade is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). So one of these guys need to learn how to move without the ball, thats what MJ and Scottie did. What's wrong with me being critical? Why do I have to get banned for it? I don't like Chris Bosh whats wrong with that? Last night, it was a bad timing for me to do that cuz Chris was having himself a good game lol. but anyways, Championship or Bust! LEGGO.

[DefenseWins]

I really don't like it when LBJ is on the perimeter when Wade has the ball and vice versa.

It stretches the floor, sure, but I'm sure most people know LBJ isn't going to get the ball to hit a 3. I've never seen that happen (Wade penetrating to kick it out to LBJ for a 3 I mean).

But yeah if one of them moves without the ball when the other has the ball, the offense would be CRISP.

And more LBJ/Bosh pick and pops, or if Wade starts to do it. Bosh has looked so good out there with LBJ lol.

[TrueRain]

I think Wade should be more of a passer, he penetrates better. Especially since Miller and Battier have entered, unless Wade gets a good look at the basket.

There have been times where the Heat would go on a roll just because of Wade getting guys open and he's hitting them and good things happen if they make their shots.

the Heat vs ATL game was a indicator of that. Wade was passing, good things were happening. Then he takes the dumbest shots and somewhat cost the game for the Heat. When he's injured he's flat out terrible. I don't get why he does this in the 4th quarter of all quarters when the team is trying to battle back or take a lead...

Also... getting Bosh more involved. The pick and pop with LBJ and Bosh is fantastic. You don't see that a lot when Wade handles the ball.

ALSO, Wade off a screen with a catch and shoot is also very good. More catch and shoots with LBJ (seen it the past few games) and Wade is unstoppable. What can a team possibly do if both of them are hitting their jumpers?

With a HEALTHY Wade everything will be fine. If he comes back 80%.... oh god....

oh and Wade seems to be better in the post than LBJ when kicking it out In the beginning of the season of loved it when they were in the post and dictating the offense, it worked.

Exactly my point, there is good and bad when Wade is out. We still NEED Wade for the playoffs no doubt. Like you said I dont see alot of LBJ/BOSH pick and pop chemistry when Wade is on the court. I feel that Wade should let LBJ dominate the ball more, Wade should move without the ball which he's pretty good at. It's like whenever D-Wade has the ball, LBJ is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). When LBJ has the ball, D-Wade is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). So one of these guys need to learn how to move without the ball, thats what MJ and Scottie did. What's wrong with me being critical? Why do I have to get banned for it? I don't like Chris Bosh whats wrong with that? Last night, it was a bad timing for me to do that cuz Chris was having himself a good game lol. but anyways, Championship or Bust! LEGGO.

Sorry but this is just wrong. Wade has done a great job of adjusting without the ball. The entire season he's been moving without the ball. He's coming off screens a lot more. He barely handles the ball at all compared to how much he used to. This team is at it's best when neither, especially LeBron, are dominating the ball. I think LeBron still needs work there. His jumper is automatic. He needs to be coming off those screens more for those jumpers.

[sooie92]

I think Wade should be more of a passer, he penetrates better. Especially since Miller and Battier have entered, unless Wade gets a good look at the basket.

There have been times where the Heat would go on a roll just because of Wade getting guys open and he's hitting them and good things happen if they make their shots.

the Heat vs ATL game was a indicator of that. Wade was passing, good things were happening. Then he takes the dumbest shots and somewhat cost the game for the Heat. When he's injured he's flat out terrible. I don't get why he does this in the 4th quarter of all quarters when the team is trying to battle back or take a lead...

Also... getting Bosh more involved. The pick and pop with LBJ and Bosh is fantastic. You don't see that a lot when Wade handles the ball.

ALSO, Wade off a screen with a catch and shoot is also very good. More catch and shoots with LBJ (seen it the past few games) and Wade is unstoppable. What can a team possibly do if both of them are hitting their jumpers?

With a HEALTHY Wade everything will be fine. If he comes back 80%.... oh god....

oh and Wade seems to be better in the post than LBJ when kicking it out In the beginning of the season of loved it when they were in the post and dictating the offense, it worked.

Exactly my point, there is good and bad when Wade is out. We still NEED Wade for the playoffs no doubt. Like you said I dont see alot of LBJ/BOSH pick and pop chemistry when Wade is on the court. I feel that Wade should let LBJ dominate the ball more, Wade should move without the ball which he's pretty good at. It's like whenever D-Wade has the ball, LBJ is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). When LBJ has the ball, D-Wade is standing in the corner (NOT INVOLVED IN THE OFFENSE AT ALL). So one of these guys need to learn how to move without the ball, thats what MJ and Scottie did. What's wrong with me being critical? Why do I have to get banned for it? I don't like Chris Bosh whats wrong with that? Last night, it was a bad timing for me to do that cuz Chris was having himself a good game lol. but anyways, Championship or Bust! LEGGO.

Sorry but this is just wrong. Wade has done a great job of adjusting without the ball. The entire season he's been moving without the ball. He's coming off screens a lot more. He barely handles the ball at all compared to how much he used to. This team is at it's best when neither, especially LeBron, are dominating the ball. I think LeBron still needs work there. His jumper is automatic. He needs to be coming off those screens more for those jumpers.

Like I said, Wade is pretty good at moving without the ball, but often I see Wade standing in the corner when LeBron has the ball. LBJ is worst at it, he just stands there 95% of the time when Wade has it.They really should learn how to work together as a duo, what happened their pick and roll game, they totally abandoned it after doing it at that 1 game.

[Zasterror]

Leave it to some Heat fans to come to conclusions after a couple of games at the start of the season. Maybe we need to wait and see how a healthy D-Wade fairs before we start down this road..

All this talk about limiting his minutes or even worse, forcing him to come off the bench is ridiculous in my opinion. Hell I'm even hearing people suggesting that Wade tone it down a bit and learn to defer to Lebron from now on. IMO, that's not the Wade we need to win in the playoffs. We need both Lebron and Wade going full force, something that was working out well in the playoffs last year(up until the finals).

Heat fans always complain about how the media never gives Wade the respect he deserves. Well no kidding, seeing as his own fan base treats his the same way at times. Sorry if I come off harsh, but this stuff is really getting to me.

Truer words have never been spoken. Wade hears and reads these ridiculous talks and it motivates him; his belief is stronger than your doubt.

[TheAnkh]

Leave it to some Heat fans to come to conclusions after a couple of games at the start of the season. Maybe we need to wait and see how a healthy D-Wade fairs before we start down this road..

All this talk about limiting his minutes or even worse, forcing him to come off the bench is ridiculous in my opinion. Hell I'm even hearing people suggesting that Wade tone it down a bit and learn to defer to Lebron from now on. IMO, that's not the Wade we need to win in the playoffs. We need both Lebron and Wade going full force, something that was working out well in the playoffs last year(up until the finals).

Heat fans always complain about how the media never gives Wade the respect he deserves. Well no kidding, seeing as his own fan base treats his the same way at times. Sorry if I come off harsh, but this stuff is really getting to me.

Truer words have never been spoken. Wade hears and reads these ridiculous talks and it motivates him; his belief is stronger than your doubt.

Probably true, but I think its pathetic that it has to come to that for Wade in order to motivate him to play like the BIW we know and love. Why shouldn't a championship or having the chance to be the best in the league be motivation enough?

Some of the negative stuff I'm reading about him on this board by so called fans (and the lack of certain posters to defend him) is just crazy though. Sadly it gives credence to the idiots that say the Heat have a bad fanbase.