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Post#21 » by thethey » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:27 am

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Body language? Consistent production? Playing hard at both ends of the floor?

I think those are all pretty good indicators of desire.

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That happens when is really down on himself and his head is not in the game. It never lasts the whole game and does not apply to his desire get back in uniform at all.


Or maybe that's exactly why the desire has faded? Just imagine if you got that down on yourself about things. Sure at first you'd want to get out there and make it right, but after awhile that has to weigh you down.

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Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#22 » by change » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:33 am

beas is a year and a half younger than wes johnson. people expect a bit too much out of him at times
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Post#23 » by thethey » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:34 am

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Really? Look at guys like Kobe and D Rose and try to tell me Beasley cares as much as they do. That just seems false.


Based on what exactly?


Body language? Consistent production? Playing hard at both ends of the floor?

I think those are all pretty good indicators of desire.

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All those relate to his youth and immaturity, not his desire to be on the court. How do you take a leap from that to him not desiring to play period?[/quote]

I'm not going to argue my position as fact because it's clearly not. It's only speculation based on what I've seen. Maybe he does want to play, but maybe he'd be just as comfortable away from the game. Either way i think the guy needs a hug.

The leap is just an attempt at getting to the root of the issue. Sure he might just be immature but I'm certainly entitled to take a different view, one that's just as likely seeing as neither of us have all the facts.

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Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#24 » by Yes We Kahn » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:38 am

Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist? You get the feel of his lack of desire based on his body language as he sits out with an injury? What would you want him to do differently? Check in at the scorers table while he's in street clothes?

Its not like he's sitting there, watching netflix on his iphone. He appears to be into the games and is always up to meet his teammates during timeouts. Unless you have more specifics than "body language" and "subtleties," I don't really think this needs to be discussed any further. I find it funny that one of your points is that you can "generally read people pretty well."

I am sure they are genuinely waiting until he is 100% because of his history of coming back too soon last year. Also, foot ligaments have a tendency to heal more slowly than ankle ligaments.
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Post#25 » by B Calrissian » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:42 am

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Body language? Consistent production? Playing hard at both ends of the floor?

I think those are all pretty good indicators of desire.

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That happens when is really down on himself and his head is not in the game. It never lasts the whole game and does not apply to his desire get back in uniform at all.


Or maybe that's exactly why the desire has faded? Just imagine if you got that down on yourself about things. Sure at first you'd want to get out there and make it right, but after awhile that has to weigh you down.


You are trying to psychoanalyze him without using common sense or maybe you haven't watched him play much. If there is one thing that no one should question about Beasley it is his resilience from game to game.

So your theory is that he is enjoying himself on the bench because he thinks he sucks?

Yes We Kahn wrote:Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist?


Yeah and it is a annoyingly lazy attempt. I would have preferred reading some dream analysis based on made up dreams the players might have had. That would have at least been an entertaining read.
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Post#26 » by thethey » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:46 am

Yes We Kahn wrote:Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist? You get the feel of his lack of desire based on his body language as he sits out with an injury? What would you want him to do differently? Check in at the scorers table while he's in street clothes?

Its not like he's sitting there, watching netflix on his iphone. He appears to be into the games and is always up to meet his teammates during timeouts. Unless you have more specifics than "body language" and "subtleties," I don't really think this needs to be discussed any further. I find it funny that one of your points is that you can "generally read people pretty well."

I am sure they are genuinely waiting until he is 100% because of his history of coming back too soon last year. Also, foot ligaments have a tendency to heal more slowly than ankle ligaments.


This is a discussion board is it not? And this is clearly generating discussion.

I think there's far more "armchair" coaching/gming that occurs here with just as little, if not less, factual ground. Would you rather I make a thread titled "Get rid of Beasley he's a headcase clown" and have my main argument be because he made a stupid decision or two in the fourth quarter of one game?

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Post#27 » by SSUBluesman » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:47 am

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Vega06 wrote:He came back from his injury too soon last season, and that just lead to more injuries. They're probably just being careful with it.


I think that's true but that doesn't answer the question of whether Beasley cares. I think it's all about external expectations with him. I just don't see him as the type that is itching to get back. Maybe I'm just projecting a bit.

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Actually it does answer it. That he came back to soon from an injury demonstrates a desire and willingness to play that you claim he lacks.

Also, when and by whom (other than yourself) has Beasley's desire been questioned?
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Post#28 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:49 am

thethey wrote:I think there's far more "armchair" coaching/gming that occurs here with just as little, if not less, factual ground. Would you rather I make a thread titled "Get rid of Beasley he's a headcase clown" and have my main argument be because he made a stupid decision or two in the fourth quarter of one game?

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Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#29 » by Calinks » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:50 am

From everything I have seen about Beasley, he seems like has a ton of passion for the game and he desperately wants to prove that he is a good player. I think he really wants to a major contributor for the Timberwolves and he if could. he would be out there right now. I highly doubt he wants to sit on the sidelines.
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Post#30 » by Yes We Kahn » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:51 am

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Yes We Kahn wrote:Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist? You get the feel of his lack of desire based on his body language as he sits out with an injury? What would you want him to do differently? Check in at the scorers table while he's in street clothes?

Its not like he's sitting there, watching netflix on his iphone. He appears to be into the games and is always up to meet his teammates during timeouts. Unless you have more specifics than "body language" and "subtleties," I don't really think this needs to be discussed any further. I find it funny that one of your points is that you can "generally read people pretty well."

I am sure they are genuinely waiting until he is 100% because of his history of coming back too soon last year. Also, foot ligaments have a tendency to heal more slowly than ankle ligaments.


This is a discussion board is it not? And this is clearly generating discussion.

I think there's far more "armchair" coaching/gming that occurs here with just as little, if not less, factual ground. Would you rather I make a thread titled "Get rid of Beasley he's a headcase clown" and have my main argument be because he made a stupid decision or two in the fourth quarter of one game?

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I don't see a lot of discussion. Mostly a lot of people that disagree with you. And when they present quotes or previous events, you say things like, "Oh he's just saying that."
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Re: Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#31 » by B Calrissian » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:51 am

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Yes We Kahn wrote:Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist? You get the feel of his lack of desire based on his body language as he sits out with an injury? What would you want him to do differently? Check in at the scorers table while he's in street clothes?

Its not like he's sitting there, watching netflix on his iphone. He appears to be into the games and is always up to meet his teammates during timeouts. Unless you have more specifics than "body language" and "subtleties," I don't really think this needs to be discussed any further. I find it funny that one of your points is that you can "generally read people pretty well."

I am sure they are genuinely waiting until he is 100% because of his history of coming back too soon last year. Also, foot ligaments have a tendency to heal more slowly than ankle ligaments.


This is a discussion board is it not? And this is clearly generating discussion.

I think there's far more "armchair" coaching/gming that occurs here with just as little, if not less, factual ground.


This is a basketball website if you had not noticed. It is generating discussion about how stupid this thread is.

Lock this mess up.
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Post#32 » by Yes We Kahn » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:53 am

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Yes We Kahn wrote:Is there really a thread based on some guy trying to play armchair psychologist? You get the feel of his lack of desire based on his body language as he sits out with an injury? What would you want him to do differently? Check in at the scorers table while he's in street clothes?

Its not like he's sitting there, watching netflix on his iphone. He appears to be into the games and is always up to meet his teammates during timeouts. Unless you have more specifics than "body language" and "subtleties," I don't really think this needs to be discussed any further. I find it funny that one of your points is that you can "generally read people pretty well."

I am sure they are genuinely waiting until he is 100% because of his history of coming back too soon last year. Also, foot ligaments have a tendency to heal more slowly than ankle ligaments.


This is a discussion board is it not? And this is clearly generating discussion.

I think there's far more "armchair" coaching/gming that occurs here with just as little, if not less, factual ground.


This is a basketball website if you had not noticed. It is generating discussion about how stupid this thread is.

Lock this mess up.

he thought this was realpsychologist.com
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Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#33 » by thethey » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:04 am

Whether you like it or not psychology plays a big role in sports and with a limited fan perspective all we can do is speculate.

The same is true of what's going on on the court. But we're all real gms right? There are many statements made here with as little factual base as mine.

I'm sorry everyone felt the need to attack my opinion with their realgm facts about Beasley

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Post#34 » by Yes We Kahn » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:06 am

thethey wrote:Whether you like it or not psychology plays a big role in sports and with a limited fan perspective all we can do is speculate.

The same is true of what's going on on the court. But we're all real gms right? There are many statements made here with as little factual base as mine.

I'm sorry everyone felt the need to attack my opinion with their realgm facts about Beasley

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Didn't mean to offend you, but you aren't going to get very far with "I generally read people pretty well."
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Re: Does Beasley care about not playing? 

Post#35 » by Krapinsky » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:08 am

Here's some ideas for your next thread:

1) Are Rubio and Love physically attracted to one another?
2) Does Darko have "daddy issues"?
3) Does Adelman prefer white players over black players?
4) Is Anthony Randolph b-vitamin deficient?
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