Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt X, Mods close)

Furinkazan · Post #761 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:54 pm

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:How would anybody feel about trading for Tony Allen? What would that take?

A miracle

PeePee la Fritz · Post #762 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:23 pm

ChosenSavior wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Wow, Mo freaking Williams? Really? That's gotta be an all time low as a Magic fan.

Gotta agree with this. We must be really desperate...

I live in LA and watch a lot of Clippers games. Mo Williams is on a rampage. With CP3 out he is starting and carrying the offense most of the time. Billups is the main playmaker, but Mo can flat out score. With Turk running the offense Mo would be a major offensive upgrade to Meer. Plus he's much bigger and an above average defender. It would take J Rich. But I'd move him in a second with Duhon and a 2nd rounder for Williams and Foye

MoMM · Post #763 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:06 pm

I think JRich+Duhon for Williams+Foye doesnt work in terms of sallary, but i'd trade both for Mo alone too.

I like the idea of Hedo running the point while having Mo and JJ as starters playing SG role.

D12/ghost
Ryan/Glen
Hedo/Q/Clark
JJ/Wafer
Mo/Nelson

Driguez · Post #764 » by **Driguez** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:11 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:[quote="Driguez"]Wow, Mo freaking Williams? Really? That's gotta be an all time low as a Magic fan.

Gotta agree with this. We must be really desperate...

I live in LA and watch a lot of Clippers games. Mo Williams is on a rampage. With CP3 out he is starting and carrying the offense most of the time. Billups is the main playmaker, but Mo can flat out score. With Turk running the offense Mo would be a major offensive upgrade to Meer. Plus he's much bigger and an above average defender. It would take J Rich. But I'd move him in a second with Duhon and a 2nd rounder for Williams and Foye

What we really need is a play maker, Orl has enough scorers. I'm probably gonna get some hate but I would like to have Calderon's playmaker abilities instead of a scorer like Mo.

ZeusIsLoose · Post #765 » by **ZeusIsLoose** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:09 pm

Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

Furinkazan · Post #766 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:27 pm

ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

to make it work it would have to be something like

Howard,Anderson,Duhon or Q
for
Griffin,Jordan,Williams

cute
shame it will never happen

WeAreVenom · Post #767 » by **WeAreVenom** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:35 pm

ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

I'd be down, I wonder what our salary cap situation would look like?

MoMM · Post #768 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:55 pm

How far do you think we would go with BG and DeAndre based that LAC was 32-50 last year? Maybe we wouldnt even make the playoffs. Its the same as trading D12 for Love + Milicic.

On paper both deals are OK, but when you see Wolves and Clippers' team with these players, you can see that we wouldnt go far, or not?

Furinkazan · Post #769 » by **Furinkazan** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:05 pm

MoMM wrote:How far do you think we would go with BG and DeAndre based that LAC was 32-50 last year? Maybe we wouldnt even make the playoffs. Its the same as trading D12 for Love + Milicic.

On paper both deals are OK, but when you see Wolves and Clippers' team with these players, you can see that we wouldnt go far, or not?

**** deandre....but
But are telling me You dont want to build around Griffin bc he sux??

MoMM · Post #770 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:45 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:
MoMM wrote:How far do you think we would go with BG and DeAndre based that LAC was 32-50 last year? Maybe we wouldnt even make the playoffs. Its the same as trading D12 for Love + Milicic.

On paper both deals are OK, but when you see Wolves and Clippers' team with these players, you can see that we wouldnt go far, or not?

**** deandre....but
But are telling me You dont want to build around Griffin bc he sux??

No, I'm just telling that even having great stats (BG and Love) and maybe even better than D12's they dont have the same impact as Howard. A lot of people says that doesnt want to trade D12 for players that would place us in 7th/8th range like Gasol/Bynum, Lopez/Picks, etc, and thats what BG would make for us.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #771 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:48 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:
MoMM wrote:How far do you think we would go with BG and DeAndre based that LAC was 32-50 last year? Maybe we wouldnt even make the playoffs. Its the same as trading D12 for Love + Milicic.

On paper both deals are OK, but when you see Wolves and Clippers' team with these players, you can see that we wouldnt go far, or not?

**** deandre....but
But are telling me You dont want to build around Griffin bc he sux??

Clearly he doesnt suck. Blake is a scorer and rebounder but he should be a better defender. He's right there with Jrich under the "He should be a better defender based on his athleticism" group of guys. but it's still early and offensively he looks like a player to build around but I think he needs to take a few steps forward defensively in order to be considered better than let's say kevin Love or Bosh.

cb1115 · Post #772 » by **cb1115** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:47 pm

Did we get Larry Bird yet?

The Effect · Post #773 » by **The Effect** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:18 pm

ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

That is the ONLY trade i would make for howard

Blake Griffin might not be as good as howard, but hes better than anything else we would get in return and would give us a guy we can lean on to win game. Plus for management, he would put fans in the seats and would sell jerseys.

ADRajX · Post #774 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:37 pm

WeAreVenom wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

I'd be down, I wonder what our salary cap situation would look like?

me too lol

WeAreVenom · Post #775 » by **WeAreVenom** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:44 pm

DJRajX wrote:
WeAreVenom wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

I'd be down, I wonder what our salary cap situation would look like?

me too lol

We could be big players in the 2013 FA, where, ironically, Monta Ellis is a Free Agent.

An Ellis/Griffin core? I like.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #776 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:14 am

ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

Yes

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #777 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:19 am

WeAreVenom wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

We could be big players in the 2013 FA, where, ironically, Monta Ellis is a Free Agent.

An Ellis/Griffin core? I like.

Ellis/Redick/Hedo/Blake/Jordan?

Do it! Do it Nowwwww!!!! /pipedream

ADRajX · Post #778 » by **ADRajX** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:24 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

Yes

Post #779 » by **Bensational** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:50 am

WeAreVenom wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

I'd be down, I wonder what our salary cap situation would look like?

compared to options of Bynum or Brook Lopez, it's a definite front runner.

if the Nets somehow pulled the #1 pick in the draft, though, and were prepared to offer that with Lopez then i'd probably be inclined to take that. but either deal would be a great core to build around.

WeAreVenom · Post #780 » by **WeAreVenom** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:01 am

Bensational wrote:
WeAreVenom wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:Per Broussard:
he thinks a trade of Howard and Anderson for Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan should work. Thoughts?

I'd be down, I wonder what our salary cap situation would look like?

compared to options of Bynum or Brook Lopez, it's a definite front runner.

if the Nets somehow pulled the #1 pick in the draft, though, and were prepared to offer that with Lopez then i'd probably be inclined to take that. but either deal would be a great core to build around.

Yeah, either one would be incredible.

I saw somewhere that this 2012 Draft Class is shaping up to become the next 2003 Draft Class (The class where Lebron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, etc....). I wonder if there is any truth to that.

If so, it'd be hard to pass that up.