Tank time ? (Draft Thread) aka we suck at basketball

[PetrieUnderstudy]

What I'd like to see happen in a perfect yet realistic world is for the Kings to improve for the remainder of the season and shoot for .500 range just outisde of the playoff picture. I feel we're due for some luck with the draft lottery and we have cap space available. For free agents we need to overcome this undesirable destination thing so I've targeted certain guys to help with this.

1. Be in the position to draft Anthony Davis.
2. Sign Gerald Wallace. Portland looking at Batum/Wallace situation. Overpay Crash some to come back to where it all began for him (the undesirable destination thing). His energy and athleticism everynight at SF would be great. Doesn't need ball to be effective.
3. Sign Andre Miller. He's older but his game doesn't rely on athleticism and never has. Idea of him starting at PG and that he has family in Sacramento (the undesirable destination thing). A true PG.
3. Sign Ryan Anderson. Young tweener SF/PF and good kid. Grew up a Kings fan and from the area (the undesirable destination thing). Great spot up shooter, not ball dominant.
4. Sign Jason Thompson and Donte Greene to 1 year qualifier.
5. Amnesty or trade John Salmons.
6. Let JJ Hickson walk or trade him.
7. Trade Travis Outlaw.

Roster 2012-13

PG Andre Miller/Isaiah Thomas/Jimmer Fredette
SG Tyreke Evans/Marcus Thornton
SF Gerald Wallace/Francisco Garcia/Donte Greene/Tyler Honeycutt
PF Ryan Anderson/Chuck Hayes/Anthony Davis
C DeMarcus Cousins/Jason Thompson/Hassan Whiteside

IF, BIG wishful IF, this happened we'd be a top team.

[SacKingsPejaFan]

Well, Thornton is officially out 1-2 weeks with a thigh hematoma. Luckily our next two weeks are light in terms of games, so instead of losing him for 10 games, I believe it's only looking like 5'ish. This may affect my previous draft position prediction of 10 though as I anticipated we'd finish close with a couple of the teams I listed.

[deNIEd]

What I'd like to see happen in a perfect yet realistic world is for the Kings to improve for the remainder of the season and shoot for .500 range just outisde of the playoff picture. I feel we're due for some luck with the draft lottery and we have cap space available. For free agents we need to overcome this undesirable destination thing so I've targeted certain guys to help with this.

1. Be in the position to draft Anthony Davis.
2. Sign Gerald Wallace. Portland looking at Batum/Wallace situation. Overpay Crash some to come back to where it all began for him (the undesirable destination thing). His energy and athleticism everynight at SF would be great. Doesn't need ball to be effective.
3. Sign Andre Miller. He's older but his game doesn't rely on athleticism and never has. Idea of him starting at PG and that he has family in Sacramento (the undesirable destination thing). A true PG.
3. Sign Ryan Anderson. Young tweener SF/PF and good kid. Grew up a Kings fan and from the area (the undesirable destination thing). Great spot up shooter, not ball dominant.
4. Sign Jason Thompson and Donte Greene to 1 year qualifier.
5. Amnesty or trade John Salmons.
6. Let JJ Hickson walk or trade him.
7. Trade Travis Outlaw.

Roster 2012-13

PG Andre Miller/Isaiah Thomas/Jimmer Fredette
SG Tyreke Evans/Marcus Thornton
SF Gerald Wallace/Francisco Garcia/Donte Greene/Tyler Honeycutt
PF Ryan Anderson/Chuck Hayes/Anthony Davis
C DeMarcus Cousins/Jason Thompson/Hassan Whiteside

IF, BIG wishful IF, this happened we'd be a top team.

Anthony Davis is a top 3 pick. WTH are you smoking

[SacKingZZZ]

Anthony Davis is the top pick unless somebody is still buying the hype on Drummond.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

Anthony Davis is a top 3 pick. WTH are you smoking

LOL. I don't smoke anything anymore. But if you read my entire post...I said "I feel we're due for some luck with the draft lottery." Do you disagree?

IF our luck turned and we got the 1st or 2nd pick.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

What are your guys thoughts on the players I think we should target in A. Miller, G. Wallace, and R. Anderson and my rational? None are huge superstars but they fill needs and have ties to the Sac area to help us overcome the undesireable destination stigma. This in my opinion is the way the organization needs to think in regard to free agency. Who are the best guys fit wise and realistically that we can attract to Sac. A lot like Chuck signing this year. We went after Crawford and Kirilenko but what ties did they have? After seeing Crawford hug Smart after the game the other night he may have chosen us over Blazers had Smart been the coach to begin the season. With a losing, small market team we need to concentrate on connections that could draw players here until we become a top level team like the early 2000's. Even then we're at a disadvantage. A new arena could help some.

[bjax24]

Yes, tank so the league can give us the 4th pick again. (the draft lottery is a myth)

[SacKingZZZ]

What are your guys thoughts on the players I think we should target in A. Miller, G. Wallace, and R. Anderson and my rational? None are huge superstars but they fill needs and have ties to the Sac area to help us overcome the undesireable destination stigma. This in my opinion is the way the organization needs to think in regard to free agency. Who are the best guys fit wise and realistically that we can attract to Sac. A lot like Chuck signing this year. We went after Crawford and Kirilenko but what ties did they have? After seeing Crawford hug Smart after the game the other night he may have chosen us over Blazers had Smart been the coach to begin the season. With a losing, small market team we need to concentrate on connections that could draw players here until we become a top level team like the early 2000's. Even then we're at a disadvantage. A new arena could help some.

Depends on the Tyreke situation but Kirk Hinrich and Nic Batum are my choices. If they amnesty Salmons there should be enough space to sign both outright. That is if the Blazers choose Wallace over Batum and right now, I don't think there is any doubt about that happening. Batum looked to be in the "Donte" position for them.

As for Crawford, I'm glad he didn't sign here and the other night was the best showcase as to why. The guy needs shots to be what he is, and I don't think him getting shots over any of Evans, Thornton, or Cousins is right for this team moving forward. The Kings need more guys like JT, Hayes, and Cisco. Role players that play defense and know their role. Guys that make your best players better, not somebody that is a great backup plan in case someone fails.

[SacKingsPejaFan]

What are your guys thoughts on the players I think we should target in A. Miller, G. Wallace, and R. Anderson and my rational? None are huge superstars but they fill needs and have ties to the Sac area to help us overcome the undesireable destination stigma. This in my opinion is the way the organization needs to think in regard to free agency. Who are the best guys fit wise and realistically that we can attract to Sac. A lot like Chuck signing this year. We went after Crawford and Kirilenko but what ties did they have? After seeing Crawford hug Smart after the game the other night he may have chosen us over Blazers had Smart been the coach to begin the season. With a losing, small market team we need to concentrate on connections that could draw players here until we become a top level team like the early 2000's. Even then we're at a disadvantage. A new arena could help some.

Depends on the Tyreke situation but Kirk Hinrich and Nic Batum are my choices. If they amnesty Salmons there should be enough space to sign both outright. That is if the Blazers choose Wallace over Batum and right now, I don't think there is any doubt about that happening. Batum looked to be in the "Donte" position for them.

As for Crawford, I'm glad he didn't sign here and the other night was the best showcase as to why. The guy needs shots to be what he is, and I don't think him getting shots over any of Evans, Thornton, or Cousins is right for this team moving forward. The Kings need more guys like JT, Hayes, and Cisco. Role players that play defense and know their role. Guys that make your best players better, not somebody that is a great backup plan in case someone fails.

Praising the status quo is unwise given how poorly we've done with guys like that. Let's come back to reality for a second: if you're going to be as unproductive with the basketball as Evans, Thornton, and Cousins have been, and if you're going to lose as many games as badly as we've lost them, then maybe we shouldn't be letting those three guys dictate our moves. In other words, I'm not penciling in 15 shots each for those three guys if they're going to shoot like crap and lose by 30+ a couple of times a week--they haven't proved they deserve it. There are plenty deeper teams in the NBA that do just fine. Denver is a decent model. So are our late 90's early 2000's teams that had 6 players average double figures.

I personally would love the additions of Andre Miller, Gerald Wallace, and Ryan Anderson. They each give us things our team lacks in a serious way.

[SacKingZZZ]

Denying the only talent on the team that will get you anywhere and underrating it's potential to develop and instead replacing it with middling parts because they may currently be a little more efficient is far more unwise, trust me on that. Teams that work are built to work. If the Kings don't have the "talent" they won't get anywhere anyway, however stacking lesser talented individuals who have never taken a team anywhere themselves in front of your foundation? Truly unwise in every sense of the word.

Denver is a decent model, however when they get repeatedly crunched by the Kobe's, the Pauls, and the Durants of the world, all they'll have to look back upon is what could have been.

[deNIEd]

Anthony Davis is a top 3 pick. WTH are you smoking

LOL. I don't smoke anything anymore. But if you read my entire post...I said "I feel we're due for some luck with the draft lottery." Do you disagree?

IF our luck turned and we got the 1st or 2nd pick.

.500 ball, would result us in getting the 13th or 14th pick.


And nope. We aren't due for any luck. Our organization currently doesn't deserve any "luck."

We just make one bad decision after another. Pathetic.

[SacKingZZZ]

Not totally true, maybe now you all see why they were more keen on not blowing that cap space and most likely lucked out when Crawford and AK47 looked elsewhere. Last I checked this is the YOUNGEST team in the league. There is no substitute for time and experience. All you can do is the very best you can to put a system around your most talented players that gives them the opportunity to do what they do best while in turn elevating role players beyond where they are as individuals. That is thing not occurring here. Coach Smart has a chance here but it's a totally unfair situation for him. Westphal screwed things up that bad.

[OhioKingsFan]

I agree that Crawford would not have been a long term fix for us, but AK47 would have been great. I think this will be the last year that I'll be able to convince myself to be happy over a really high lotto pick, it's time to win some games.

[deNIEd]

I agree that Crawford would not have been a long term fix for us, but AK47 would have been great. I think this will be the last year that I'll be able to convince myself to be happy over a really high lotto pick, it's time to win some games.

We've had two "really high" lotto picks.

We've had three "good" lotto picks, only we drafted probably the worst player at each of those selections.

[LeBron's Time]

Yes, tank so the league can give us the 4th pick again. (the draft lottery is a myth)

at least we secure the #4 pick, much better than #8 to #10 pick. at #4 pick we can tab elite sf in barnes or MKG, much much better than terrence jones or terrance ross at #10 (if petrie wants sf). peace