NFC Championship: NY Giants @ San Francisco

[Da Schwab]

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

Rematch man, you ready?

So ready.

[LoneyROY7]

Tom Coughlin is beaming.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

I'm going through the 7 stages of grief:

1. Denial--maybe they'll block the FG?
2. Pain--we were one Kyle Williams away from the Superbowl!
3. Anger--CUT KYLE WILLIAMS, HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY LOST US THE GAME!
4. Depression--sat silently in a room full of other depressed Niner fans. Dreamt of what could have been.
5. Upward Turn--Now I just feel really, really bad for Kyle Williams. Sincerely, I just want to give him a hug. No one feels worse about it than him. We had a great season and surpassed everyone's expectations. We're building a winning culture and Harbaugh is the man.

And that's where I'm at, only two stages to go.

Congrats Schwab. Just please don't change your avy to a gif of that game, PLEASE!

[rpa]

SERIOUSLY? even if we had lost the turnover battle 1-0 we'd have won, and yes the niners need a WR

Even if Williams hadn't screwed up a 2nd time they were still going to lose. Our offense couldn't move the ball against the Giants defense (mostly thanks to our horrible receiving core), the Giants were picking up a good 10-20 yards each possession which would eventually swing the field position heavily in their favor, and Andy Lee wasn't punting it as well as usual. Put those 3 things together and overtime was just going to be a slow death for the 49ers.

However, had Williams not screwed up the first time the 49ers win this game. The Giants had trouble putting together anything longer than the 10-20 yards I previously mentioned in the second half. Giving them that field position was a killer.

[dreamintoaction]

This was heartbreaking. Such a disappointment. Well if youre a Giants or Pats fan - this is rather sweet. win tix to the superbowl lastclck.com

[aggo]

SERIOUSLY? even if we had lost the turnover battle 1-0 we'd have won, and yes the niners need a WR

Even if Williams hadn't screwed up a 2nd time they were still going to lose. Our offense couldn't move the ball against the Giants defense (mostly thanks to our horrible receiving core), the Giants were picking up a good 10-20 yards each possession which would eventually swing the field position heavily in their favor, and Andy Lee wasn't punting it as well as usual. Put those 3 things together and overtime was just going to be a slow death for the 49ers.

However, had Williams not screwed up the first time the 49ers win this game. The Giants had trouble putting together anything longer than the 10-20 yards I previously mentioned in the second half. Giving them that field position was a killer.

100% agreed with this analysis


Crabtree was completely invisible this game.

[desertlakerfan]

That Bradshaw fumble no call screwed SF just as much as Kyle Williams fumbles. The side judge first blew the whistle about a half a second AFTER the ball had already come out, he even went as far as to gesture possession for NY while repeatedly blowing the whistle to avoid anyone trying to overrule him and more importantly, keep SF from challenging the play which was a obvious fumble.

It's sad such a great game had to be mired by such a horribly biased call by the side judge with 2 minutes left and the ball in chip shot FG range for Akers, but it's something hopefully the rules committee will look at when it comes to officials blowing plays dead early keeping a team from challenging a turn over. It happened quite a few times throughout the season, and hopefully won't also negatively impact the super bowl.

Plenty of reasons why SF lost, starting with NY being a great team, it's just a shame that one side judge taking the game into his own hands(keeping SF from the opportunity to challenge) had such a huge impact on the outcome.

[Celtsfan1980]

The analyst for Fox seemed to think the "fumble" was a good call.

[aggo]

That Bradshaw fumble no call screwed SF just as much as Kyle Williams fumbles. The side judge first blew the whistle about a half a second AFTER the ball had already come out, he even went as far as to gesture possession for NY while repeatedly blowing the whistle to avoid anyone trying to overrule him and more importantly, keep SF from challenging the play which was a obvious fumble.

It's sad such a great game had to be mired by such a horribly biased call by the side judge with 2 minutes left and the ball in chip shot FG range for Akers, but it's something hopefully the rules committee will look at when it comes to officials blowing plays dead early keeping a team from challenging a turn over. It happened quite a few times throughout the season, and hopefully won't also negatively impact the super bowl.

Plenty of reasons why SF lost, starting with NY being a great team, it's just a shame that one side judge taking the game into his own hands(keeping SF from the opportunity to challenge) had such a huge impact on the outcome.

that call is made regularly, RB hits a pile of defenders, is stood up and the play is blown over while the RB is driven back and/or loses the football because he's in a pile of guys ripping it out of his hands.

I recall either the ref waving his hands or blowing the whistle at the top of the RB's progression. The fact that both refs came in and emphatically declared forward progress immediately makes me think that it was a routine call with little doubt.

I dont see any way that the rules committee changes this imo. It can only get worse. How/when do you define forward progress by the ball carrier under the hood? How do you determine when the play is over? When do you determine that the play is over?

They wont take away forward progress because of QBs getting stood up in the pocket. Every year there are a few times where there's pressure in the pocket, the QB gets stood up in a pile and the play is immediately blown dead before he's driven to the ground. it's the same rule used to protect the carrier against unnecessary and meaningless hits.

[desertlakerfan]

That Bradshaw fumble no call screwed SF just as much as Kyle Williams fumbles. The side judge first blew the whistle about a half a second AFTER the ball had already come out, he even went as far as to gesture possession for NY while repeatedly blowing the whistle to avoid anyone trying to overrule him and more importantly, keep SF from challenging the play which was a obvious fumble.

It's sad such a great game had to be mired by such a horribly biased call by the side judge with 2 minutes left and the ball in chip shot FG range for Akers, but it's something hopefully the rules committee will look at when it comes to officials blowing plays dead early keeping a team from challenging a turn over. It happened quite a few times throughout the season, and hopefully won't also negatively impact the super bowl.

Plenty of reasons why SF lost, starting with NY being a great team, it's just a shame that one side judge taking the game into his own hands(keeping SF from the opportunity to challenge) had such a huge impact on the outcome.

that call is made regularly, RB hits a pile of defenders, is stood up and the play is blown over while the RB is driven back and/or loses the football because he's in a pile of guys ripping it out of his hands.

I recall either the ref waving his hands or blowing the whistle at the top of the RB's progression. The fact that both refs came in and emphatically declared forward progress immediately makes me think that it was a routine call with little doubt.

I dont see any way that the rules committee changes this imo. It can only get worse. How/when do you define forward progress by the ball carrier under the hood? How do you determine when the play is over? When do you determine that the play is over?

They wont take away forward progress because of QBs getting stood up in the pocket. Every year there are a few times where there's pressure in the pocket, the QB gets stood up in a pile and the play is immediately blown dead before he's driven to the ground. it's the same rule used to protect the carrier against unnecessary and meaningless hits.

It's simple, keep the field mic'd(which they already do), include sound into replays and determine when the whistle is blown and if the runner still had possession of the ball or not.

Right now the rules are set to where officials can still let their bias impact a game through blowing the whistle "early". The play in question had the whistle blowing as the ball was coming out, which should be easy to challenge and overturn had SF been given the opportunity to challenge.

A side judge tried the same call last week against NO, however the head official was close enough to the play to overrule him blowing the play dead and it was correctly ruled a fumble on the field. This time Ed Hocules was too far from the play, and by the time he arrived the side judge had already blown the whistle about 5x and signaled NY ball repeatedly.

[Worm Guts]

It was the right call, whether or not the whistle was blown before the fumble. Bradshaw's forward progress had been stopped and he was being pushed back at the time of the fumble.

[High 5]

Giants Targeted Kyle Williams' Concussion History

I know players are always going after the other guy's weaknesses, but something about telling the world you were targeting someone because of prior concussions doesn't sit well. Maybe it's just me.

[aggo]

Giants Targeted Kyle Williams' Concussion History

I know players are always going after the other guy's weaknesses, but something about telling the world you were targeting someone because of prior concussions doesn't sit well. Maybe it's just me.

ehh fair game in the NFL circles. iirc, Williams was the one himself who said he had all those concussions.

[Sandlot]

Not sure I'd call it fair game. Wasn't one of the big hold ups in the offseason bargaining giving players better medical protection once they had retired because of problems with concussions? If you want to target a hurt shoulder or leg thats one thing but a concussion could end their form of normal life. It has serious medical repercussions going way beyond one game.
To be fair I think they were saying they were just trying to scare him but if you are trying to give another person a concussion . . . well then there is something seriously wrong with that.