Lakers Eyeing Gilbert Arenas

mademan · Post #61 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:10 pm

It is literally impossible to be worse than Fisher. On court chemistry wise, Fisher takes stupid ill-advised shots and thinks he's lebron on the fast break. Arenas can not do any harm. Low-risk medium rewards type of situation.

DEEP3CL · Post #62 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:11 pm

bertrob wrote:People underestimate how much of a locker room cancer this guy is
Theres a reason no team has signed him

You're living off the past, he was probably that in his Washington days because he was the alpha dog there. But he wasn't the alpha dog in Orlando therefore he caused no problems. And he certainly won't be the alpha dog here in LA, Kobe has Gil's respect that won't be a problem.

Plus it's house money for the Lakers, what the hell do they have to lose ?

Studemire1 · Post #63 » by **Studemire1** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:22 pm

Seriously Arenas should be an insta-sign for the Lakers. They could use a player like him, whether starting or off the bench. It's not going to take much to get him and while he's not as talented as he once was, he's most likely not going to be a problem for the team either. There's also still that possibility that he goes off on any given night. If not, he'll at least be a decent asset to have around.

Jdilla26 · Post #64 » by **Jdilla26** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:23 pm

Areanas will be a upgrade he will play great w/ Kobe b/c he not the man plus he instant offense which the Lakers need. I understand he will never be as explosive as b4 look at the amount of knee surgeries As long as his jumper is still money he will be alright. I mean Laker fans gotta get tired of watching Fisher everynight he hits a occasional three but he seems to get owned everytime he's on the floor. And the Western conference is full PG's so they need a upgrade.

Dr Pepper · Post #65 » by **Dr Pepper** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:30 pm

Although I don't like SVG's coaching and his system, I still think Arenas is basically done. I also think he's too fragile and out of shape to last in this crazy season, he's going to need a lot of rest between games and the Lakers will still have to give significant minutes to Fisher unless they land someone else too.

One thing's for sure: Arenas could use whatever Kobe's been doing to fight off father time and injuries.

But it'll be interesting to see how Kobe and Arenas would get along, since Arenas is a jokester/planker at heart and Kobe's the black mamba. There's that rule where you don't want two crazy guys on the team...Arenas and Artest could fit the bill but time will tell

demcanes26 · Post #66 » by **demcanes26** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:43 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
bertrob wrote:People underestimate how much of a locker room cancer this guy is
Theres a reason no team has signed him
You're living off the past, he was probably that in his Washington days because he was the alpha dog there. But he wasn't the alpha dog in Orlando therefore he caused no problems. And he certainly won't be the alpha dog here in LA, Kobe has Gil's respect that won't be a problem.

Plus it's house money for the Lakers, what the hell do they have to lose ?

Exactly. You can tell the people who understand basketball, and those who don't. LA has the weakest bench in the league. Kobe Bryant is playing close to 40 minutes a game. LA wants Arenas for his ability to score the basketball. The Lakers would like to cut Kobe's minutes, and you can't do that if you don't have someone coming in off the bench who can score.

droponov · Post #67 » by **droponov** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:48 pm

Doormatt wrote:oh yeah? well we have at least two d-league level guards, and another that can barely move anymore, and they really arent working out. so forgive us if we feel like anything is an improvement.

Knock yourself out.

I'm just saying that was the behavior of Heat fans with Bibby last season. That he was better than Chalmers. He wasn't.

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DEEP3CL wrote:
droponov wrote:Lakers fans talking about Arenas are like Heat fans talking about Bibby last year.

There are D-League PGs, available for call-ups, better than Arenas.
Name one ?

Walker Russell if you want a pure PG or Ben Uzoh if you want a combo. A better fit for the Lakers, Blake Ahearn.

Rebuilding Year · Post #68 » by **Rebuilding Year** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:14 pm

droponov wrote:
Doormatt wrote:oh yeah? well we have at least two d-league level guards, and another that can barely move anymore, and they really arent working out. so forgive us if we feel like anything is an improvement.

Knock yourself out.

I'm just saying that was the behavior of Heat fans with Bibby last season. That he was better than Chalmers. He wasn't.

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To be fair, I NEVER thought this.

Always hated Bibby, even in Sacto.

sfernald · Post #69 » by **sfernald** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:18 pm

Doormatt wrote:
KnicksJunkie wrote:Arenas looked pretty finished to me last year. Fisher is old, but at least he has chemistry with his teammates. Arenas would come in, and the whole offense would have to completely adjust. I don't know that it would be worth messing with...

have you watched the lakers? theres no offense for him to adjust to or mess with. really nothing could be worse than what we have right now, at least thats how i feel.

They played really well against the Clippers in their last game. As long as they play that way every game, their offense will be just fine. Inside out. Inside out.

Doormatt · Post #70 » by **Doormatt** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:27 pm

droponov wrote:
Doormatt wrote:oh yeah? well we have at least two d-league level guards, and another that can barely move anymore, and they really arent working out. so forgive us if we feel like anything is an improvement.

Knock yourself out.

I'm just saying that was the behavior of Heat fans with Bibby last season. That he was better than Chalmers. He wasn't.

eh chalmers was actually pretty decent before bibby showed up though. fisher has had negative offensive win shares for most of the season and an eFG% of like 40%. he simply cannot hit a shot to save his life. morris is beyond terrible, really cannot do anything under control to save his life. id be willing to give goudelock a shot, at least he can shoot, but hes been pretty awful too (clipper game aside). worst case scenario arenas is as bad as all of them and gets benched. its not like any of us expect him to be anything other than average, we just want to try something . our situation is more dire than miami last year imo because at least they had 2 guys who could be playmakers. we only have 1, and hes kinda old, and is prone to go into chuck mode once in awhile.

granted, arenas was pretty bad last year, but at least theres that glimmer of hope that he can return to some sort of form. with fisher, there is nothing to return too, and the rookies... well... they play a lot like rookies. this is really all just a stop gap till blake returns as well, as sad as that sounds.

In-N-Out · Post #71 » by **In-N-Out** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:35 pm

He can still contribute if he starts imo. He played like sh*t last season cause SVG didn't use him correctly. He won't get his shots in if he plays limited minutes and limited attempts.

KGboss · Post #72 » by **KGboss** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:46 pm

Lakers want ALL the scrubs they can get. Troy Murphy still takes the cake though.

SideshowBob · Post #73 » by **SideshowBob** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:48 pm

As long as Fisher's closing out games in the Finals, it's all good.

Miamis3rdRing · Post #74 » by **Miamis3rdRing** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:48 pm

Fisher - Old, slow, and awful. He is Kobe's lackey so he will remain on the team and probably get significant playing time. (OT: But I loved that screen Solomon Jones set on him)

Blake - Incredibly average, and not healthy right now.

Morris - Hot garbage. Why is this guy even in the league? Waive, cut, or fire him already.

Goudelock - Hasn't played much but has showed some potential during their last game. With that one game he's already out-accomplished Morris on the year.

Arenas - I thought insults were not allowed on this website? If so, why is he being compared to Mario Chalmers? That is insulting. Mario is shooting 50% from the field, and just under 44% from 3. Obviously he's not a top 4 option on the Heat, but still great efficiency. Arenas is not better than him at this point.

I'll admit to being high (And wrong) on Bibby but that's because we were suffering through Carlos Arroyo and an inconsistent Chalmers at the time.

Jan_Sobieski · Post #75 » by **Jan_Sobieski** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:50 pm

InjuryProne wrote:
KnicksJunkie wrote:
World Peace wrote:He's better than Fisher so we should sign him.

I'm not that sure he is...

LGND2552 · Post #76 » by **LGND2552** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:58 pm

I don't understand what the big deal is...

Its not like they're gonna give him a max contract, it'll be far from that. Maybe a year or two to prove himself, otherwise he's benched and off the team next year. When artest came to the lakers, I remember everyone was screaming that he would be a risky asset(in regards to getting into fights, not sucking), and that obviously wasn't the case. Arenas respects Kobe, there wouldn't be any locker room problems

GoldenKnight · Post #77 » by **GoldenKnight** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:12 pm

It's stupid to say Heat fans said the same thing about Bibby, saying he would be better than Chalmers...Obviously this did not happen...

But we are not talking about Chalmers here, we are talking about Fisher, who loves to take the ball to the hoop in between 7 footers, likes to pass the ball to the other team, and gets opposing PGs a career night whenever they play against him.
Sure he is clutch, we're not saying ship him out, he would be a solid PG down the stretch making big shots, but as for being a starter...I would take Arenas any day of the week.

Arenas would be a solid pick up for the Lakers, if you do not agree, you obviously have not been watching the Lakers this season and are just talking out of your @$$ saying Fisher is better than Arenas at this point in their careers.

trufan24 · Post #78 » by **trufan24** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:28 pm

well he was once "Agent Zero" so he's got some credibility being a "has been" and all...definitely an upgrade over Fisher, not sure how much though...but no he can never be Agent Zero again, well for one, someone is already wearing #0 lol, who by the way should play more minutes over that scrub Darius Morris, and another thing, he can never be as productive as he used to be in Washington because he will be playing w/ Kobe and we all know how that will go, but the point is, LA really could use a decent PG with the kind of offense that they are trying to learn

jzmagik · Post #79 » by **jzmagik** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:34 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:It's stupid to say Heat fans said the same thing about Bibby, saying he would be better than Chalmers...Obviously this did not happen...

But we are not talking about Chalmers here, we are talking about Fisher, who loves to take the ball to the hoop in between 7 footers, likes to pass the ball to the other team, and gets opposing PGs a career night whenever they play against him.
Sure he is clutch, we're not saying ship him out, he would be a solid PG down the stretch making big shots, but as for being a starter...I would take Arenas any day of the week.

Arenas would be a solid pick up for the Lakers, if you do not agree, you obviously have not been watching the Lakers this season and are just talking out of your @$$ saying Fisher is better than Arenas at this point in their careers.

This is what it's come down to ladies and gents. Knicks relying on Baron Davis, and Lakers relying on Gilbert Arenas to save their seasons :lol:

Sedale Threatt · Post #80 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:37 pm

I generally shoot 99.9 percent of these ideas down with impunity. Nor am I under any illusions Gilbert would make a huge difference. But with the horrendous state of our backcourt, I would definitely think long and hard about pulling the trigger on this. It's been that bad. At least we know he can't do much worse than what we've been getting.