Conclusions from Bulls game - are we a SMART team?

[RexBoyWonder]

This game was wild and somewhat crazy but after i was done yelling in relief, this win really got me thinking.

First - i know ill take some heat for this post so just let me say im happy with the win, glad to be tied for first place in the East.

Now, i ask u guys to be Honest. Do u feel like this Heat team is a smart team?
I know we are a GREAT team, very talented team, athletic, fun, exciting. but i just dont feel we're AS SMART AS WE SHOULD BE.

What makes me think that?

1.This team's learning curve is really lame. i keep seeing THE SAME MISTAKES being done for over a year now.
today it was hero-ball at the end again, for no good reason just completely stoped running the offense.
same point can be made about us giving up open 3's TIME AFTER TIME. those things already cost us big games, yet we keep doing them?

2. This tean is superb, but we have the poorest killer Instinct i ever saw for such a good team. the amount of times we have games in our pocket and just give them away is simply incredible. sometimes we still end up winning, but i swear half of our close games wins shouldnt even have been down the single digits. today for example, shouldnt have come to a last possession game at all..we just game them chance after chance to come back and take it.

3.I still feel we're notreaching our full potential. this argument is problamtic because most teams never do, but CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS SHOULD. the crazy thing is - we might STILL THE BEST TEAM IN THE NBA, yet in the same time we are not the best team WE CAN BE.

i really like Spo, i think he's smart and tough. but to me - he's the guy responsible for the issues i mentioned.

Am i totally crazy for not being able to truly celebrate this win? maybe my hopes are too high?





i just feel like this.

[DefenseWins]

We aren't tied for 1st place in the East, the Bulls have 2 more wins. We just have the same losses as them. They have played more games.

Also I wouldn't be too happy... no Deng or their backup PG who would give Chalmers fits, in CJ Watson.

I don't think LBJ or Wade listen to Spo lol.

Both of them take stupid shots and iso so much.

When Spo said to move the ball around and trust eachother, I didn't see any of that with so much isoing going on o_O

Down the stretch, it was so ugly. They make things harder than it really is. Atleast they kept driving, they didn't really settle for jumpers.

I am tired of seeing Wade basically be canceled out by whoever is guarding him. He has to win that match up. Him and Rip were BOTH 4-16. How crazy is that.

Is this team smart? Well they have made a lot of high basketball IQ plays. But a lot of low ones, such as pulling up for a 3 while running down the clock for no apparent reason, or flopping in the air to get constant contact instead of actually shooting the ball... wasted possessions.. etc.

[WD]

i would really like to see or know how another coach would coach this team, just 1 home and 1 away game. Kinda curious

[Vertical Limit]

It's a win, and this team is a grind it out/coasting team. All game it felt like we could have tore them up but we let them hang around due to low IQ possessions and stupid stupid fouls.

I think Wade and Lebron's reaction in the end shows you what you need to know how they felt about the win. They could have done far better but it ended up decided on in the last seconds.

It is what it is, and I predict that 60% of the remaining games this season will be like this, this team just coasts too damn much.

They'll be more serious in the playoffs for sure that's why I'm not worried.

Honestly if there's anything we need more of is more consistent three point shooting when Wade/Lebron are resting at the same time (Miller & Jones).

[RexBoyWonder]

i would really like to see or know how another coach would coach this team, just 1 home and 1 away game. Kinda curious

+100

this idea keeps jumping in my head, sometimes i just get the feeling that with a Rivers or an Adelman we could totally demolish teams in games like today.

in Spo's defense - i do feel the lack of a legitimate Center hurts us more than most realize.

[RexBoyWonder]

It's a win, and this team is a grind it out/coasting team. All game it felt like we could have tore them up but we let them hang around due to low IQ possessions and stupid stupid fouls.

I think Wade and Lebron's reaction in the end shows you what you need to know how they felt about the win. They could have done far better but it ended up decided on in the last seconds.

It is what it is, and I predict that 60% of the remaining games this season will be like this, this team just coasts too damn much.

They'll be more serious in the playoffs for sure that's why I'm not worried.

Honestly if there's anything we need more of is more consistent three point shooting when Wade/Lebron are resting at the same time (Miller & Jones).

That's the thing - bad habits are hard to shake and can kill u eventually. remember game 2 Vs the Mavs?

[WD]

i would really like to see or know how another coach would coach this team, just 1 home and 1 away game. Kinda curious

+100

this idea keeps jumping in my head, sometimes i just get the feeling that with a Rivers or an Adelman we could totally demolish teams in games like today.

in Spo's defense - i do feel the lack of a legitimate Center hurts us more than most realize.

I'd like to see another coach for 2 games with THE EXACT same roster. I know it won't happen, but I am curious, especially after watching SA/Dallas tonight. i saw a very active 2nd unit almost pull our a tough road win, plus while watching our game in the 4th qtr, I saw a lot of standing around when LBJ has/have the ball.

These things have been mentioned a million times before, just would like to know what another coach, any other coach would do with this team.

[DefenseWins]

ugh I would say something about being serious in the playoffs, but I think we all know what happened

anyway, yeah they have bad habits.

After their 5 game losing streak last year, they stopped their bad habits. Then when it came to the end and thought it was going to be easy, that's when it's trouble and reverted back to their old ways.

Everytime they think "it's going to be easy". You can just tell by their body language.

And I want more 3 point shooting by Miller or Battier, somebody. It is a weapon for us. But plays have to be called of course, not some "bail out" shot. Miller's catch and shoot has really been solid, but that's not what's he's here for at all.

[Lord Hades]

It's maddening. We certainly make smart plays throughout the course of the game, but we also have moments where we unnecessarily complicate things. I have my issues with Spo, but I severely doubts that he specifically calls for Hero Ball, as opposed to working cooperatively to get a shot, either late or coming out of a timeout.

Today's stumbles seemed more attributed to player decisions. Although, I really don't know what Cole or Chalmers did to earn a spot on the closing unit ahead of Miller or Battier. You need a better shooter than Cole and I just don't fully trust Chalmers enough at that stage.

[DefenseWins]

I know. I was shocked Chalmers was in the game....

Miller was good against the Bulls today. Then again he might have been passing up shots in the closest minutes... guess they didn't want to take the risk.

[EscapoTHB]

You kind of have to be a coasting team with this schedule.

[HeatFanSince87]

This game was wild and somewhat crazy but after i was done yelling in relief, this win really got me thinking.

First - i know ill take some heat for this post so just let me say im happy with the win, glad to be tied for first place in the East.

Now, i ask u guys to be Honest. Do u feel like this Heat team is a smart team?
I know we are a GREAT team, very talented team, athletic, fun, exciting. but i just dont feel we're AS SMART AS WE SHOULD BE.

What makes me think that?

1.This team's learning curve is really lame. i keep seeing THE SAME MISTAKES being done for over a year now.
today it was hero-ball at the end again, for no good reason just completely stoped running the offense.
same point can be made about us giving up open 3's TIME AFTER TIME. those things already cost us big games, yet we keep doing them?

2. This tean is superb, but we have the poorest killer Instinct i ever saw for such a good team. the amount of times we have games in our pocket and just give them away is simply incredible. sometimes we still end up winning, but i swear half of our close games wins shouldnt even have been down the single digits. today for example, shouldnt have come to a last possession game at all..we just game them chance after chance to come back and take it.

3.I still feel we're notreaching our full potential. this argument is problamtic because most teams never do, but CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS SHOULD. the crazy thing is - we might STILL THE BEST TEAM IN THE NBA, yet in the same time we are not the best team WE CAN BE.


i really like Spo, i think he's smart and tough. but to me - he's the guy responsible for the issues i mentioned.

Am i totally crazy for not being able to truly celebrate this win? maybe my hopes are too high?





i just feel like this.

You took the words out of my mouth.. Not much to add, since you nailed how I feel. Wade's look in the video.. Nails my feelings of the last 2 mins of the game.

How can I get hag video?

[Rebuilding Year]

That look between Bron and Wade at the end of the game was perfect.

IMO, the most frustrating part was in the first. Wade throws assists to LeBron on three straight plays. We are in great rhythm and about to run away with it. Spo pulls Wade. Bulls go on a run.

[nyk_buc]

The look b/t Lebron and wade at the end was perfect. They're not satisfied with winning. they know they are nowhere near they need to be, and that's scary.

But man, this team can't make FTs for crap.

[kyphi]

You kind of have to be a coasting team with this schedule.

true, it's not the usual schedule - staying fit for the playoffs this year has taken on a disproportional weight - I'd rather the Heat coast through the reg season and be 100% for the post season

whatever, you KNOW whomever wins the 'ship will have to bear the misnomer of the asterisk for the abbreviated season

[HEATindaHouse]

THAT LOOK WAS ABOUT HOW THE GAME WAS CALL

(CAPLOCK OFF now)

[arsenic]

Not sure how you can draw a conclusion such as this from one game against the Bulls in regular season, which we pulled off with a win by the way.

I will say it's obvious the players don't always make smart decisions, especially late in the games and the same could be applied to the coach as well. But I imagine we'll adjust better as time goes on.

[ecnirp]

i would really like to see or know how another coach would coach this team, just 1 home and 1 away game. Kinda curious

[Woolyy]

The smartest thing we've done against the Bulls is put LeBron on Rose, because there's literally nothing he can do about it. There's a 5 inch difference between the two, so Rose becomes pretty much invisible. I feel a lot more confident in crunch time when LeBron guards him.

[EscapoTHB]

Plus it's funny because it's entirely in Rose's head now. Lebron has him crying in the locker room. Making dramatic statements to the media. I don't know if he's stupid or what. But it would be pretty simple to negate what Lebron does to him defensively, if he either a) used his teammates more or b) had any off the ball movement or c) had a consistent jumper

Lebron can't shut down Chris Paul. And isn't good at chasing guys around the court through screens like what Dallas did to him with Terry.