Game Thread #22, 1/31 Nets @ Pacers

[624]

So frustrating.


Deron was balling, but Petro and Shelden do not have hands. They must have combined for 6 dropped passes at least.

[therealbig3]

I like Shelden though. He's our best defensive big man...actually has some idea how to play defense...he's physical as hell, and he's a good rebounder. Yeah, he doesn't have any offensive skills to speak of, but neither do Joel Anthony, Brendan Haywood, or Erick Dampier, but they were/are starters for championship caliber teams, because they're "bangers", that will be physical on defense and crash the boards. Shelden Williams reminds me of those guys, it's just that because this team is so depleted, we're looking to guys that aren't comfortable scoring, like Shelden Williams. I think if we had a normal team, if Brook and Marshon were out there, for example, we'd all love Shelden Williams, because he'd be a really good garbage man.

Petro, OTOH, He truly is worthless, I can't think of a single redeemable quality he has as a basketball player. He can occasionally hit a midrange jumpshot, but he's horrible on either side of the ball.

[deepblueday]

no ones saying shelden doesn't do good things, he does, but hes not as good on either end as any of those guys you mention... and thats saying something. were not "looking" for shelden to do anything now except catch and finish, and at no point do you get a good enough team in the nba that you can afford to not dump the ball off to a wide open player under the basket. if we DID have a good team, wed all be railing on shelden for all the horrible wide open blown layups and fumbled easy passes that caused us to lose close games. he is what he is, an 11th, 12th man type who maybe gets burn when one of your rotation guys goes down. i dont dislike the guy, and i appreciate the need for defensive role players but theres a base level of skill and/or athleticism you need to play minutes in the nba, and he flat out doesn't have it.

[deepblueday]

btw why couldnt we play with this intensity against the **** raptors

[624]

I can't decide what's worse..when Petro makes or misses his mid-range J.


When he makes it, sure we get 2 points....but it guarantees an overconfident 2-3 more of the same shots.


A miss only guarantees 1-2 more.

[Jersey Generals]

Lemme break it down in lamens terms for you; this team would suck cow balls if Deron Williams was not on the roster. HE is all they have. I cannot imagine how putrid the Nets would look if #8 was not on the team.

But...he is on the team, hence the team's construction. If he wasn't on this team, this team would probably have Nene, Favors, Devin Harris, a top 5 pick, and probably a player like Caron Butler.

And how is exactly is the team constructed? 1 play maker? Your comment does not make any sense.

Does that make sense?

No, your comment still doesn't make sense. Again, this team would be constructed differently if Deron Williams wasn't on this team and handicapping all of the signings/tradings the Nets have had over the past year. Without Deron, this team's construction is completley different. You think the Nets would roll out a team like this:

Farmar/Gaines
Morrow/Brooks
Stevenson/Williams
Humphries/Williams
Okur/Williams/Lopez?

No, there would be countless of trades, signings, and draftings if Deron Williams wasn't on the team and the team was handicapped by one year contracts.

Again, your comment doesn't make sense. If you would have said "this team would suck more with Deron hurt," then I could agree with you, but what you said doesn't make any pragmatical sense for where this team is going and what they're doing.

[SteveNets15]

btw why couldnt we play with this intensity against the **** raptors

I was thinking the same thing last night

[vincecarter4pres]

no ones saying shelden doesn't do good things, he does, but hes not as good on either end as any of those guys you mention... and thats saying something. were not "looking" for shelden to do anything now except catch and finish, and at no point do you get a good enough team in the nba that you can afford to not dump the ball off to a wide open player under the basket. if we DID have a good team, wed all be railing on shelden for all the horrible wide open blown layups and fumbled easy passes that caused us to lose close games. he is what he is, an 11th, 12th man type who maybe gets burn when one of your rotation guys goes down. i dont dislike the guy, and i appreciate the need for defensive role players but theres a base level of skill and/or athleticism you need to play minutes in the nba, and he flat out doesn't have it.

Exactly.

If he could simply catch the ball and finish, it wouldn't be an issue, but that whole issue in itself is why he's a career journey man who like you say should be an 11th to 12th man and not a decent career 15mpg rotation role player that teams hang onto for 3 or 4 years on normal $3 mill per year multi-year contracts.

It doesn't matter how good his D is, he's an enormous liability on offense, even when simply getting offensive rebounds and his D isn't really that good to where he would even be a good player if he could catch and finish, just what I mention above. About 15mpg.