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Post#141 » by Ribalding » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:16 pm

This is the off-topic thread, so...

My mom just got a Facebook account. She thinks her wall is Google. It is awesome. That is all.
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Post#142 » by Zubby » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:54 am

Ribalding wrote:This is the off-topic thread, so...

My mom just got a Facebook account. She thinks her wall is Google. It is awesome. That is all.

^^LOLZ

i love it... check this out im sure you will appreciate it

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Post#143 » by D12orl » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:24 am

you guys know C lee was in a car accident? check his twitter...
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Assuming he's not a Lying Bastard, I Genuinely Love Cuban 

Post#144 » by moofs » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:07 pm

http://blogmaverick.com/2012/01/29/woul ... n-the-usa/

Once again, a totally freaking awesome, yet completely unrealistic and not-going-to-happen idea from the Cubester.

I feel the same way about tax free accounts overseas. I don’t have any personal bank accounts in Switzerland. I own a house in the Cayman Islands, but I don’t have a bank account there and I wont put a bank account there. I’m pretty sure that one of the hedge funds I invested in has accounts there, but I’m not involved in its operations. So i don’t have a say.

By my impression, RICH people do not do this often! Hell, *I* even considered those (Around last April - but as a currency hedge, not as a tax shelter - which is what he's referring to).

Just divest ownership of everything Dallas so I can legitimately root for you, please sir.
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Post#145 » by moofs » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:24 pm

this probably goes better in the OT thread, come to think of it.
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Post#146 » by spolgar » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:45 pm

Re: Moofs. I think mods will move the thread if need be.

I think there is a great deal of difference between Mark and the average fortune 500 company. Fortune 500 companies generally show sociopathic behavior under the classification of the DSM IV.

Mark Cuban is not as much of a cutthroat as an organization that was constructed to be an instrument of ruthlessness. He might not see any reason to maximize profits, because he answers to mostly himself.

However, management bonuses are rated by the quarterly performance ratings under contract, from the CEO's chair all the way down to middle management. It's not just the share holders that want to get paid, the mercenaries that they employ appreciate the profit margins as well. In fact, even if the share holders stake appreciates only slightly above inflation, given management bonus structure with respect to profits per tax year, management will still seek to maximize profit by cutting costs down.

So now not only do you have to convince the share holders, you have to convince a whole chunk of the company that they should get paid less for patriotic reasons. Patriotic reasons if enacted, might I add, would likely not bear fruit in the communities of the actors. Even if shareholders were to cut the profit margins slack, the management would likely not. If you reorganize bonus the structure, the performers within that hierarchy would jump ship to a company in the same industry that was willing to forgo the welfare of the American community for its own wellbeing. Now the company with the better management also has lower cost overhead. In a head to head confrontation in the market, assuming equal levels of productivity and value, the latter company is most certainly going to do better. The latter would grow faster and eventually engulf the company that was trying to be nice to America. Now the shareholders are fscked, tax revenues plummet again and domestic employees of the company go back to sitting on their hands as their jobs get shipped back over seas.

You need government, or a whole lot of governing within trade associations to make Cuban's idea a permanent revolution in ending corporate maleficence.
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Post#147 » by spolgar » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:48 pm

Yeah, just saw. Apparently airbags saved his and his passengers life.
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Post#148 » by moofs » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:06 pm

Is my excitement that "DSM IV" could have been a business regulatory handbook an indicator that I might have a mental illness myself?

I agree with you (hence the "completely unrealistic", good job with the added points and overview, btw). There are just so many problems with it being legislated (lobbyists perhaps foremost) - it's basically a Pandora's Box that's already open. I know the president can only informally propose legislation, and is relatively ineffectual in getting it passed, but if he ran I'd still vote for Cube.

I'm really just impressed when one of the super rich guys seems to genuinely be pro-proletariat, and he's one of the few that consistently seems to be.

(economy, currency, and banking issues have had me in increasing levels of "scared sh**less" since 2007, and especially since august .. only viable solutions i see are to bring back manufacturing and reduce systemic debt - neither of which are anywhere on the horizon...)
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Post#149 » by moofs » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:00 am

If anyone's interested:
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Post#150 » by moofs » Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:59 pm

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Post#151 » by spolgar » Wed Feb 1, 2012 7:20 pm

Damnit, that was actually a good Slam article.

That magazine took hyperbole and histronics to artistic heights.
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Re: Assuming he's not a Lying Bastard, I Genuinely Love Cuba 

Post#152 » by TMU » Thu Feb 2, 2012 5:35 am

moofs wrote:http://blogmaverick.com/2012/01/29/would-shareholders-give-a-higher-pe-to-keep-jobs-in-the-usa/

Once again, a totally freaking awesome, yet completely unrealistic and not-going-to-happen idea from the Cubester.

I feel the same way about tax free accounts overseas. I don’t have any personal bank accounts in Switzerland. I own a house in the Cayman Islands, but I don’t have a bank account there and I wont put a bank account there. I’m pretty sure that one of the hedge funds I invested in has accounts there, but I’m not involved in its operations. So i don’t have a say.

By my impression, RICH people do not do this often! Hell, *I* even considered those (Around last April - but as a currency hedge, not as a tax shelter - which is what he's referring to).

Just divest ownership of everything Dallas so I can legitimately root for you, please sir.


Great topic, but I'm gonna have to put it here.
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Post#153 » by moofs » Sat Feb 4, 2012 5:41 pm

Yep :)
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#154 » by jwise44 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:14 am

Shameless is the second best show on tv

Seriously best shows ever...

Boardwalk empire
Shameless
Mash
Oz
Scrubs
Spartacus
The wire


If u like any of those start watching shameless
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#155 » by zapatasblood » Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:48 am

Game of Thrones!
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Post#156 » by zapatasblood » Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:51 am

Or The Wire hard to choose
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Post#157 » by Kal El » Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:08 am

Its not the same without the original spartacus... he was perfect for the role. Still good though...
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Post#158 » by jwise44 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:24 pm

I forgot game of thrones. I just today watched the last two episodes.

Spoiler alert don't read next part if u plan watching the show







Edit**deleted this so people won't read by accident
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Post#159 » by jwise44 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:28 pm

Kal El wrote:Its not the same without the original spartacus... he was perfect for the role. Still good though...

Ya I was planning on not watching epacially after the horrible first episode this season, but the second episode was bada$$. Glad ashurs back he's a snake but I like his character for some reason

I also forgot rescue me and Wilfred that show is HILARIOUS!!!
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Post#160 » by zapatasblood » Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:31 am

jwise44 wrote:
Kal El wrote:Its not the same without the original spartacus... he was perfect for the role. Still good though...

Ya I was planning on not watching epacially after the horrible first episode this season, but the second episode was bada$$. Glad ashurs back he's a snake but I like his character for some reason

I also forgot rescue me and Wilfred that show is HILARIOUS!!!

Can't believe that the man character is not back in Spartacus. That just sucks and is a **** job by those people to not keep him.

I love Wilfred but I only a little of what is going on.
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