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ugliest game ever... omg... i woke up at 6 am to see it and they play like this... very fustrating 

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Burn these Muskie jerseys and wear our black alternates for the rest of the season.




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kmgarnett21 wrote:Malato wrote:
The last three games Rubio is almost one half giving the ball to Ridnour, that's no sense.
I HATE that. I hate when Rubio and Ridnour are on the court at the same time, and they run the offense through Ridnour while Rubio just stands off on the corner. It makes ZERO sense to me. It may be a way to let Rubio recharge for a few seconds or just try a different approach, but usually when that happens, it either ends up in a turnover or a forced shot from Ridnour b/c he likes to dribble so freakin' much.
Yeah, i can't understand why early on in games rubio always passes to ridnour to run the offense. Really annoys me. Overall today, something just didn't look right, actually i've noticed the games barea has played that rubio's output or responsibility drops. I'm not sure if the wolves would have traded for barea if they knew rubio would be this good. Just seems like the ball is never in rubios hands when either ridnour or barea on the court with him.
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Blowout Houston on the road and then get a beatdown at home to Pacers. Didn't even look like the same team played.



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To be fair the Pacers are better than Houston by a fair bit, and the Wolves have inexplicably been better on the road than at home.
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kmgarnett21 wrote:Malato wrote:
The last three games Rubio is almost one half giving the ball to Ridnour, that's no sense.
I HATE that. I hate when Rubio and Ridnour are on the court at the same time, and they run the offense through Ridnour while Rubio just stands off on the corner. It makes ZERO sense to me. It may be a way to let Rubio recharge for a few seconds or just try a different approach, but usually when that happens, it either ends up in a turnover or a forced shot from Ridnour b/c he likes to dribble so freakin' much.
I agree with Adelman, this is a hard season and two weeks of March month will be terrible and you can phuck your season there. If Luke and JJ are healthy, then Rubio must play only around 35 minutes sharing court with one of the PGs. Finally, if the team is two or three games down of the 8# at March, then we can dream with Rubio leading the team around 40 minutes.
I think a target is the balanced W/L, not the POs. Adelman would be stupid if he overloads his young machine pursuing the POs. We have mirrors in Memphis and Oklahoma, both teams .280 three years ago.
We are enjoing a lot but we mustn't forget Minnesota was the worst team last season.
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Despite being a Rubio´s fan I have to admit that, the way this team is made, I also agree that Rubio will have to share most of his minutes with the other 2 PGs in the court (unfortunatly BTW).
Having 3 PGs, two of them capable of playing the SG (I consider this a fact for JJ, not so much for Ridnour though) aren´t too many. We need to keep them and play them (otherwise they won´t be there when needed).
The problem I see is that, being both (Rid and JJ) very interesting players, I would say that it´s a problem that both are so small. IMO that causes big problems not only in defense (which is a fact) but also in the offense; Rubio is getting very good defenders on him in certain matches. In some moments of last game Rubio was recieving a pretty good defense avoiding him to get balls (only 1 TO though). If we had taller SG..., then Rubio woudln´t be paired with P.George -ish type of players when attacking.
I don´t blame Kahn for that... as said Rid and JJ are very interesting players, not many could see that Rubio would deserve taking over 35 minutes per game and displace those two to the SG for so many minutes.... but a taller PG/SG would be a much better match. This said I don´t know Lee and whether he can play the PG, if I would trade one of those PGs -Rid, as I think Barea can´t be traded so soon-, using Webster/Ellington/Wes at the SG).
Having 3 PGs, two of them capable of playing the SG (I consider this a fact for JJ, not so much for Ridnour though) aren´t too many. We need to keep them and play them (otherwise they won´t be there when needed).
The problem I see is that, being both (Rid and JJ) very interesting players, I would say that it´s a problem that both are so small. IMO that causes big problems not only in defense (which is a fact) but also in the offense; Rubio is getting very good defenders on him in certain matches. In some moments of last game Rubio was recieving a pretty good defense avoiding him to get balls (only 1 TO though). If we had taller SG..., then Rubio woudln´t be paired with P.George -ish type of players when attacking.
I don´t blame Kahn for that... as said Rid and JJ are very interesting players, not many could see that Rubio would deserve taking over 35 minutes per game and displace those two to the SG for so many minutes.... but a taller PG/SG would be a much better match. This said I don´t know Lee and whether he can play the PG, if I would trade one of those PGs -Rid, as I think Barea can´t be traded so soon-, using Webster/Ellington/Wes at the SG).
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vossy_3 wrote:kmgarnett21 wrote:Malato wrote:
The last three games Rubio is almost one half giving the ball to Ridnour, that's no sense.
I HATE that. I hate when Rubio and Ridnour are on the court at the same time, and they run the offense through Ridnour while Rubio just stands off on the corner. It makes ZERO sense to me. It may be a way to let Rubio recharge for a few seconds or just try a different approach, but usually when that happens, it either ends up in a turnover or a forced shot from Ridnour b/c he likes to dribble so freakin' much.
Yeah, i can't understand why early on in games rubio always passes to ridnour to run the offense. Really annoys me. Overall today, something just didn't look right, actually i've noticed the games barea has played that rubio's output or responsibility drops. I'm not sure if the wolves would have traded for barea if they knew rubio would be this good. Just seems like the ball is never in rubios hands when either ridnour or barea on the court with him.
Adelman has to learn, that Barea is a SG, not a PG. You can only play him as PG in PnR situations, thats it. Taking the ball out of Rubios hands that much was just wrong and really really hurt the team. It actually looked as if Adelman didn't know what to do with all these players at hand, so he just tried new plays. And i don't understand why Beasley is even on the court so long, when he is just playing dumb-ball. The team is fine without him.
Of course, when his plan was to lose this game, he was right in it, but it didn't look pretty at all.
And by the way, the refs killed the Wolves, with their officiating. That was really brutal and at times rediculous.
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That was the ugliest game I've watched this season. I'll give the Pacers credit, it's working for them but I HATE that style of basketball. I hated it in the 90s when the Bulls were winning games 80-70 and I hate it today.
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The Muskies suck.
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kmgarnett21 wrote:Malato wrote:
The last three games Rubio is almost one half giving the ball to Ridnour, that's no sense.
I HATE that. I hate when Rubio and Ridnour are on the court at the same time, and they run the offense through Ridnour while Rubio just stands off on the corner. It makes ZERO sense to me. It may be a way to let Rubio recharge for a few seconds or just try a different approach, but usually when that happens, it either ends up in a turnover or a forced shot from Ridnour b/c he likes to dribble so freakin' much.
I hate that too. It reminds me of his Barcelona days. Where they totally wasted his talent playing that way.
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What was with Kevin Love's weird post game rant about the physicality? Did the Pacers playing physical really bother him that much? That's playoff basketball, Love had better get used to it, because it doesn't look like long before the Wolves will be right in the thick of it.
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What was with Granger acting like he just caught Love dressed as superman plowing his wife? Did Love fouling him really bother him that much? That's playoff basketball, Granger had better get used to it, because it doesn't look like long before the Pacers will be right in the thick of it.
Hibbert's screens on Rubio was an example of playoff basketball (although it's not even half way through the season). Granger getting in Love's face after a foul was an example of a spaz trying to act like a tough guy. I haven't seen this post game rant but I imagine it wouldn't have happened if Granger had not acted like a fool. That incident only magnified the other things in Love's Pacer hating mind.
Hibbert's screens on Rubio was an example of playoff basketball (although it's not even half way through the season). Granger getting in Love's face after a foul was an example of a spaz trying to act like a tough guy. I haven't seen this post game rant but I imagine it wouldn't have happened if Granger had not acted like a fool. That incident only magnified the other things in Love's Pacer hating mind.
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There is a difference between physical basketball and a cheapshot frustration foul that was a bit over the top, which is what Love did. Players have gotten into shouting matches over less than that.
Also Granger is vindicated because he proceeded to dominate the game afterwards. Also Granger actually is pretty tough in the right ways, he plays hurt (kept playing after getting 5 teeth knocked out by getting curbstomped into the floor) , is pretty clutch and steps up in big games, plus Love had nearly taken his head off with an elbow a bit before. Granger may have overreacted a bit, but it was a cheapshot by Love. If you're frustrated take it out on the scoreboard, not by clotheslining Granger for no reason.
Also Granger is vindicated because he proceeded to dominate the game afterwards. Also Granger actually is pretty tough in the right ways, he plays hurt (kept playing after getting 5 teeth knocked out by getting curbstomped into the floor) , is pretty clutch and steps up in big games, plus Love had nearly taken his head off with an elbow a bit before. Granger may have overreacted a bit, but it was a cheapshot by Love. If you're frustrated take it out on the scoreboard, not by clotheslining Granger for no reason.
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He grabbed his shoulder/jersey as he was lost balance. Far from a clothesline and far from a cheap shot. It was a foul no doubt but there was nothing flagrant about it. The refs reviewed it and concurred. I give Granger credit for using it as motivation, though.
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To me it didn't look like Love was falling. It looked like he was pissed that he couldn't corral the rebound (I think Hanbsrough was the reason). Then the ball bounced into the air, Grainger grabbed it, and Love fouled him out of frustration.
Doesn't matter because, in the end, Grainger used it as motivation, regardless.
Doesn't matter because, in the end, Grainger used it as motivation, regardless.
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C.lupus wrote:He grabbed his shoulder/jersey as he was lost balance. Far from a clothesline and far from a cheap shot. It was a foul no doubt but there was nothing flagrant about it. The refs reviewed it and concurred. I give Granger credit for using it as motivation, though.
I agree but he could have easily been tossed at the end of the 3rd quarter when he was crying about a call only minutes after he had just gotten his 1st technical. Beas on the other hand pretty much takes himself when he gets riled up.
daschysta wrote:There is a difference between physical basketball and a cheapshot frustration foul that was a bit over the top, which is what Love did. Players have gotten into shouting matches over less than that.
Also Granger is vindicated because he proceeded to dominate the game afterwards.
How does that vindicate him? An example of him being vindicated would be Love saying after the game that his foul on Granger was a cheap shot or the refs reviewing it called it a flagrant.
That is like saying a bank robber can be vindicated by doing some fancy driving during the getaway.
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