The Tank Watch has expired. Time to cheer to win again!

tontoz · Post #61 » by **tontoz** » Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:16 pm

dobrojim wrote:Ben Gordon is over-rated. He's not going to help them
win a bunch more games. He'll have a great game every
so often.

Right now they are starting Knight/Stuckey. Their backups last night were Damien Wilkins and Walker Russell. I think Gordon is a pretty big step up from Wilkins/Russell.

dobrojim · Post #62 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:19 pm

that may well be true but I would still argue he will shoot them
out of more games than he will win for them.

tontoz · Post #63 » by **tontoz** » Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:37 pm

dobrojim wrote:that may well be true but I would still argue he will shoot them
out of more games than he will win for them.

He was shooting 45% from 3 before he got hurt. The one thing he can do is shoot. It is the rest of the game he struggles with.

DallasShalDune · Post #64 » by **DallasShalDune** » Sat Feb 4, 2012 8:09 pm

dobrojim wrote:Ben Gordon is over-rated. He's not going to help them
win a bunch more games. He'll have a great game every
so often.

I'd trade for him. The Wizards need a shooter like Gordon badly.

closg00 · Post #65 » by **closg00** » Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:01 am

Kaman returning to the NOH lineup is good news for our tank :nod:

no D in Hibachi · Post #66 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:25 pm

The cream is really starting to rise to the top with the tanks. Looks like it'll be a three dog race to the finish.

2/11/12

1. Charlotte 3-23 GB: --
2. New Orleans 4-22 GB: 1.0
3. Washington 5-22 GB: 2.0
4. Detroit 8-20 GB: 4.0
5. New Jersey 8-20 GB: 4.0
6. Toronto 9-19 GB: 5.0
7. Sacramento 10-16 GB: 7.0
8. Golden State 9-14 GB: 7.5

Charlotte and NOH are on 13 and 8 game losing streaks, respectively. The 'Cats may be tough to catch, but NOH should improve if Stern ever lets Eric Gordon play again.

closg00 · Post #67 » by **closg00** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:11 pm

I am still holding-out hope that once Kamen gets acclimated at NOH and Gordon comes-back, they will start adding a few more wins. Of-course, any of the top-5 tankers could strike-gold.

tontoz · Post #68 » by **tontoz** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:03 am

Detroit beat Boston. As bad as they looked against us I still think they will end up with a better record.

Hornets up 3 with 2 minutes left against the Bucks. this could be key.

7-Day Dray · Post #69 » by **7-Day Dray** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:37 am

I've given up on catching Charlotte. They got Augustin and Maggette back, but their offense is still horrid.

Our best bet is to get ahead of NO for #2.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #70 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:18 am

Hello 6th pick. Hello Perry Jones.

The Consiglieri · Post #71 » by **The Consiglieri** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:35 pm

Anybody see this article in Grantland?

Link:

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/757 ... on-wizards

"The Washington Wizards are not the worst team in the NBA. That distinction goes to the Charlotte Bobcats, who somehow managed to lose to the Wizards twice this season. But when it comes to dysfunction and the flexibility to rapidly rebuild, nobody beats the Wiz.

The Wizards began what appeared to be a long rebuilding process by firing head coach Flip Saunders. Saunders was originally tasked with trying to get more out of the trio of Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison, and Caron Butler. When all three of those "stars" left town, Saunders shouldered a lot of the blame for not doing a job that no longer existed.

While getting rid of Saunders was a necessity, it was just the first step in a multiple-step process that could lead the Wizards back to playoff contention in the near future. So what is the blueprint for the Wizards to rebuild? They must follow a strategy that combines more front-office personnel changes, building through the draft while simultaneously removing trouble players, and cashing in on the assets they do have.

Grunfeld's Gotta Go

Ernie Grunfeld has run the Wizards since 2003, and made shrewd moves that assembled the core of Arenas, Jamison, and Butler. Unfortunately, it's all been downhill from there. While Grunfeld cannot be blamed for the Arenas gun incident, he can certainly be blamed for overrating the quality of his own personnel. And the result of that misevaluation cannot be understated. He committed to huge, cap-crippling contracts for Arenas and Jamison, going "all in" on that Wizards trio.1

Worse than that, however, was Grunfeld's inability to recognize that the team was not a contender and needed to rebuild around young players. After the Wizards won 19 games in an injury-plagued 2008-09 season, most NBA people realized that the Wizards needed to rebuild. Instead, Grunfeld chose to sacrifice more young assets, choosing to trade the fifth pick in the draft (and other players) to Minnesota for Mike Miller and Randy Foye. Minnesota selected Ricky Rubio with that draft pick. In fact, the Wizards burned so many draft picks that they only have two of their lottery picks on this current roster: John Wall and Jan Vesely.2

Only when the Wizards' 2009-10 season got off to a disastrous start, followed by the Arenas gun incident, did Grunfeld decide to start the rebuilding process, years too late....."

closg00 · Post #72 » by **closg00** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:05 pm

This should go in the Fire Grunfeld thread, nice find^, never heard of GrantLand...very long and well thought-out article.

gesa2 · Post #73 » by **gesa2** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:22 pm

Grantland is Bill Simmons' project with ESPN. Most of his work goes there as well as a varied group of columns and pieces, usually longer form than the rest of ESPN and with more culture thrown in. Some of it is pretty interesting. Chuck Klosterman has a few columns, as well as a couple of writers from Baseball Prospectus.

The Consiglieri · Post #74 » by **The Consiglieri** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:55 pm

closg00 wrote:This should go in the Fire Grunfeld thread, nice find^, never heard of GrantLand...very long and well thought-out article.

The articles subject matter is a play on The Sound of Music, "What do you do with a problem like the wizards". So I figured it belonged in some sort of rebuilding thread. i just threw it in here. Grantland is fantastic (in parts), great writing, sometimes the subjects are beyond tedious to me, but there is a ton of great writing in it.

Severn Hoos · Post #75 » by **Severn Hoos** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:36 am

Figures - after giving up any hope of "catching" the Bobcats, they go and win a game that we needed them to lose. We're much too close to the Raptors, would have been better to get another game buffer from them than to have the Hornets "just" 3 games back.

Maybe at least the Hornets can win and put us back into a tie for 2nd.

dangermouse · Post #76 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:12 am

Tank is back on track tonight against Utah.

This is a race for 2nd worse though... no one is going to catch the Bobcats. The good part is it isnt very often that the absolute worst team wins the lottery.

closg00 · Post #77 » by **closg00** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:32 am

The Cats have all of their starters back: Maggette, Augustin, and Williams, the Cats will start winning a few more games now.

no D in Hibachi · Post #78 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:19 am

Actually not all, they're still waiting for Henderson to return.

closg00 · Post #79 » by **closg00** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:27 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Actually not all, they're still waiting for Henderson to return.

True, even better. NOH is better also, but we have to see what they look-like after they trade Kamen.

hands11 · Post #80 » by **hands11** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:51 am

They are committed to the tank.

Keeping Mason says it all.