Record more important than stats for the All Stars

[baseline33]

i think that the record is more important than a player's stats when being selected to an All Star team, but stats are still a prerequisite.

i think the NBA wants to give two spots to the Hawks, but Josh just needs to get a few more monster games to make the decision easier.

Josh has a high basketball IQ and is alot of times is too passive and loves to pass, but i wouldn't mind Josh padding his stats to separate himself from Granger and Pierce so that him and Bosh can be selected as all star reserves.

[Superiorblogman]

Josh is not a all-star he is garbage.

[Ruhiel]

How is Josh going to pad his stats?

This is what I don't like. People still think Iso Joe and Iso Josh is the key to winning.

Larry Drew's offense means if you want to score Iso up the middle. He's completely canned simple pick and rolls and that means if Josh is going to score he has to drive against bigger bodies he usually can't get around them and ends up passing, a lot like Horford.

Larry Drew has him (and Horford) at the top of the key padding their assists trying to find Joe and Marvin backdoor and off curl screens. Then we swing the ball and it breaks down to isos.

Drew needs to run more pick and rolls. His offense breaks down to perimeter isos and should be tweaked. If we were playing well our record would have taken care of meaningless All Star games. Josh hasn't earned it and the main priority should ALWAYS be winning.

[atrofio]

Only 15-17% of the All-Star players play for non-playoffs or losing-records teams ==> http://www.allstarnba.es/ballot/how-complete-coaches-nba-all-star-reserves.htm

[MaceCase]

I don't get why people think record should matter more when the team they like is near the top but then complain when guys like Mo Williams make it over their favorite player that is putting up 20-10-6-6 for a bad or average team.

[Ruhiel]

And he could his free throws.

But he had a couple dunks and even before the highlights the TNT guys were calling him an all star?

It really is a joke.

[D21]

Mo Williams was just a second best player of the best team, and they thought they had to pick several players from the best team... but it doesn't mean they do it like that for each player.
These previous seasons, they tend to look at the "playoffs teams" and pick the players with best production from these teams, and if there is some players from other teams with really higher stats, they can pick them (it did not happen in the East last year).

At this moment, if the coaches continue like they did the previous seasons, Josh is ahead of Granger because of his stats (teams have almost the same record), and ahead of Pierce because of almost the same stats but a better record. Bosh has almost the same record, but better stats.
Bargnani has better stats than Smith, but I think the difference is not enough to justify picking him from a loosing team over Smith from a top conference team.

Don't forget that James and Anthony are the starting forwards, so there will be at least two more forwards, maybe three, but certainly more PF than SF, which gives Smith an edge over Pierce or Iguodala, but not over Boozer (or in lower team guys like Anderson, Stoudemire or Bargnani).

He can make it if he stays in the top forwards in the East, but some monster games and ATL in the top 4 would really help him.

[HMFFL]

Josh Smith won't make the All-Star team. Joe Johnson will be the only Hawk that makes it and that should make it.

[truehawksfan121]

Larry drew does not put josh in good position to score. He is very limited on the offense. I am more upset with his defense. I always thought his defense was better than his offense. With the talent he have he should be able to stop most of the sf and pf in the league. It seem like he is more focus trying to make an impact with his offense than being the defensive beast he was meant to be. Until he fully understand that he will only be an cancer to the team. When Horford got hurt that punch his ticket into the allstar game.

[ATL Boy]

Josh's good stats and the fact that he's on a good team will get him a spot in the all star game, that might not be what's right but then again the all star game is never fair roster wise; Love should've been a starter over Blake this year, and then last year Yao Ming who didn't play a game all season got voted in as a starter; the all star game is what it is.

[Superiorblogman]

Larry drew does not put josh in good position to score. He is very limited on the offense. I am more upset with his defense. I always thought his defense was better than his offense. With the talent he have he should be able to stop most of the sf and pf in the league. It seem like he is more focus trying to make an impact with his offense than being the defensive beast he was meant to be. Until he fully understand that he will only be an cancer to the team. When Horford got hurt that punch his ticket into the allstar game.

I co-sign this part. Josh is trying to stuff his stats offensively and his defense has long ago falling apart.

[Ruhiel]

Larry drew does not put josh in good position to score. He is very limited on the offense. I am more upset with his defense. I always thought his defense was better than his offense. With the talent he have he should be able to stop most of the sf and pf in the league. It seem like he is more focus trying to make an impact with his offense than being the defensive beast he was meant to be. Until he fully understand that he will only be an cancer to the team. When Horford got hurt that punch his ticket into the allstar game.

He hasn't really defended sf's this year outside of occasional switches. Which is dumb since its the reason he lost weight.
His defensive wins so far is 2nd best in the league. But I agree with this: "Larry drew does not put josh in good position to score. He is very limited on the offense." It would help if we had Smith at small forward more on defense, more size on the boards and could get Smith in transition. But that's not possible unless we can find a shooter who can defend the 4/5.

[Superiorblogman]

No-one can put Josh in a better position other than himself. 2 coaches and the same mess. No need for a third he is just a little kiddie punk that has no clue of how to play. He should be on the bench because he kills the offense in every way.

[evildallas]

I was supported Josh for the All-Star game based on his defense but the last 4 games he's played himself out of serious consideration. His defensive stats can overcome mediocre offensive numbers, but not horrid numbers.

A real coach could help Josh, but the ASG passed on that idea when they replaced Woodson with Drew. Woodson sucked and had to go, but Drew was his assistant and had no authority with the players to demand they do anything because he was already familiar. He let the "star" players do what they want last year and it's too late to change now. A real, confident, authoritative coach from outside the Hawks might get Josh to another level but at this point Josh has to reach it himself because he isn't getting one of those coaches. I hope he gets his head on straight soon if for no other reason trade value.

[evildallas]

Given the way things are going Record may be an argument against any Hawk All-Stars.

[fullcourt]

it is really looking good for Josh, he deserves it , and it has been long over due.

[johnny878]

I see no reason for Joe Johnson to go over josh smith other than position scarcity as there arent many good shooting guards in the east outside of wade.

Josh smith is clearly the better player of the two.

[Superiorblogman]

So, Josh Smith whom does not understand how to play basketball and is the biggest problem with the Hawks erratic play deserves to go to the All-Star game after every win. What a joke. All is not well with you universe just because this dude has a good game. Not even a good game, the same bad shots he always takes just went in more than usual.