The Bismack Biyombo Thread

[BigSlam]

and clearly someone with the work ethic to improve dramatically.

That's key to me.

The kid is SO driven to improve and has a load of passion. You see it every time he misses a blocked shot or his man scores on him or he misses a baby hook. He'll usually clap his hands hard running back down the court frustrated with himself. I like that drive.

It's things like that, and the fact he is more fluid and is willing to play above the rim, that makes me positive he will have a better career in the NBA than Okafor does.

We really do need a legit big man coach to work with him full time though. Like you I think the Dream would be amazing but wont happen.

I wonder what Sheed would be as a teacher? I mean, apart from being a head case he was a highly skilled post big man on both ends - right? Plus being an ex-Heel I wonder if he would have interest in sliding into a role like that?

[advanced]

get Karl Malone to come be Oakley 2.0 Can work with Mully and Biz (and Davis is we got him) in the weight room and coach Biz on how to become and effective roll man

[Kabookalu]

Andrea Bargnani in the summer of 2008 worked with John Lucas in Houston and Tim Grugich in his all world famous big man training camp in Las Vegas. He was playing drastically better defense and didn't look lost; in fact before we fired Sam Mitchell, he was playing just as good defense as Jermaine O'Neal when we had him (and he was a lot better than he is now). Normally one would think "why doesn't every big man do this?" Desire and passion is still needed no matter how many of the best coaches you surround yourself with, and I don't know how Bobcats fans view Bargnani, but his passion and desire is awesome.

I think Biyombo's is greater. I can only imagine how much better he would get if he went through the same developmental process.

[captaincrunk]

I wonder what Sheed would be as a teacher? I mean, apart from being a head case he was a highly skilled post big man on both ends - right? Plus being an ex-Heel I wonder if he would have interest in sliding into a role like that?

Sheed was more of a faceup big but he'd be great for 1 on 1 post drills and stuff since he isn't super old and out of shape... But he's never coached before.

[fatlever]

who is to say that robert werdann isnt a good big man coach? just because he wasnt a great pro doesnt mean he cant coach. of course, he could suck also. i just dont know.

[Bizz]

Biyombo averages when he gets 15 min or more: 6games 8ppg 7,8rbd 0,5ast 3blk

he should definitely get more PT from now on

[doc.end]

who is to say that robert werdann isnt a good big man coach? just because he wasnt a great pro doesnt mean he cant coach. of course, he could suck also. i just dont know.

+1; still with oakley it would be at least more interesting process to follow


to all - that DX thread on draft board here where is the Jonathan G's answer from is a good read - he posted a long thoughtful post there.

[fatlever]

hoopshype has a biz interview up

http://hoopshype.com/interviews/barrigo ... e-in-silas

[treefi]

Don't let anyone tell you Biyombo is a bust. Kyrie has blown me away but he's not a once-in-a-decade type of player like Bismack is.

He is going to be the best defensive player in the league. How is it even possible Biyombo could have 2 double-doubles already when he's only getting 13 minutes of playing time at age 19???? He's already leading the lead in blocks per 40.

[HornetJail]

I think it's a bit premature to say that BB will be the best defensive player in the league. It's likely that he'll be a top defender someday, but to make a bold decision about a raw, 19-year-old, who's played 20 games in the NBA, it seems a bit early. Nevertheless, I have high hopes for BB in the future. I think he'll be our starting center by the end of the season, with 7 PPG, 8 RPG, and 2+ BPG. Hopefully we can rid ourselves of Thomas, Diaw, and Najera so that Mullens, Biyombo, and White are the main guys at the 4 and 5.

[captaincrunk]

Biyombo averages when he gets 15 min or more: 6games 8ppg 7,8rbd 0,5ast 3blk

he should definitely get more PT from now on

Have you ever heard of a player getting pulled from the game because they weren't doing well?

That happens to Biyombo too. The better he plays the longer he stays in. Not the other way around.

/facepalm

I think it's a bit premature to say that BB will be the best defensive player in the league. It's likely that he'll be a top defender someday, but to make a bold decision about a raw, 19-year-old, who's played 20 games in the NBA, it seems a bit early. Nevertheless, I have high hopes for BB in the future. I think he'll be our starting center by the end of the season, with 7 PPG, 8 RPG, and 2+ BPG. Hopefully we can rid ourselves of Thomas, Diaw, and Najera so that Mullens, Biyombo, and White are the main guys at the 4 and 5.

The best defenders are almost always bigs, and after Howard the competition is VERY slim.

[captaincrunk]

Which is the player that has impressed you the most?

Bismack Biyombo: Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. They control the game. They know how to play. After them, nobody has impressed me. But I'm not afraid of them [laughs].

from the interview

[BigSlam]

Who would you like mentoring Biz the most?

KAJ
Or
The Dream
Or
Shaq

[Kabookalu]

Who would you like mentoring Biz the most?

KAJ
Or
The Dream
Or
Shaq

Kareem, although stylistically Hakeem would be the best choice. I chose Kareem though because from what I've seen, Hakeem is a great teacher for footwork, but Kareem is a great teacher for being a big man. Bynum was as raw as a big man could get and years later he looks like a veteran and is starting on the all star game. I don't think Bynum becomes what he is now if he had Hakeem as a mentor rather than Kareem.

Although in an ideal world I would have Biyombo train with Kareem and then Hakeem.

As for Shaq, much respect to one of the best centers to have ever lived, but I wouldn't trust him taking on students.

[HornetJail]

Anything to improve BB's offensive game. If Shaq can teach him a bit, go for it.

Of course, Kareem or the Dream teaching him would be the ideal scenarios.

[captaincrunk]

Bismack doesn't have the bulk to be like shaq

[Diop]

What about Kevin McHale? I know he was an ordinary head coach, anybody tried him as a big man coach?He was pretty savvy on the block

[advanced]

Bismack doesn't have the bulk to be like shaq

Obv wont ever look like Shaq but he looks to me like he has the bodytype thats gonna blowup with a few yrs of NBA weight training in the offseason. I dunno how much he enjoys lifting but with the right diet and program I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up looking like a monster

[BigSlam]

Bynum was as raw as a big man could get and years later he looks like a veteran and is starting on the all star game. I don't think Bynum becomes what he is now if he had Hakeem as a mentor rather than Kareem.

Pretty much the sole reason I put him on the list Choker. If KAJ can do that with Bynum, imagine what he could do with a kid with the work rate of Biz?

Plus Biz has already shown an ability and willingness to use a hook that KAJ could help him refine.

[LamarMatic7]

What about Kevin McHale? I know he was an ordinary head coach, anybody tried him as a big man coach?He was pretty savvy on the block

I agree. Kevin seems like a smart enough guy as well, so I'd love him being around Biyombo.

You can see that Al Jefferson learned a lot from him on offense.