Wolves-Raptors-Thunder

[RCG] · Post #1 » by **[RCG]** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:01 pm

MN out: Williams, Webster, Ridnour, Miller, Utah 1st,
MN in: Harden, Calderon

Wolves get their SG of the future and a solid back-up PG that expires when Harden needs to be extended.

Rubio/Calderon/Barea
Harden/Ellington/Lee
Johnson/Beasley
Love/Beasley/Tolliver/Randolph
Pekovic/Milicic

TOR out: Bargnani, DeRozan, Calderon
TOR in: Williams, Webster, Ridnour, Miller, Mohammed, Utah 1st, OKC 1st

Raptors start anew with D.Williams, Valanciunias, a top pick in '12, another 1st in '12 and boat-loads of cap-space.

Ridnour/Bayless
Webster/Barbosa
Butler/Johnson
Williams/Davis
Johnson/Gray

OKC out: Harden, Mohammed, OKC '12 1st
OKC in: Bargnani, DeRozan

OKC cash in Harden for two additional pieces. Bargnani could play PF next to Perkins or at C. He will excel as a third option, with DeRozan as a fourth option.

Westbrook/Jackson
Sefolosha/DeRozan
Durant/DeRozan
Ibaka/Collison
Bargnani/Perkins

Raptors may not do this (perhaps add in the Memphis pick to Raptors), thoughts?

Guidus88 · Post #2 » by **Guidus88** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:09 pm

this seems a good trade for all teams.
anyway i dont think it will happen

eyeteeth · Post #3 » by **eyeteeth** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:43 pm

This is a surprisingly balanced trade. Most trades I see posted here I feel like I can shoot down easily. This one, while I doubt it happens just because I don't think OKC trades Harden no matter what, does seem like a possibly decent return on value for all teams involved. The big question is how much OKC likes Bargnani. IF they felt he was a center who could impact playoff games, then it gets pretty interesting.

On a related note, do people think that Perkins has been a disappointment in OKC? I kind of get that feeling.

phonzadellika · Post #4 » by **phonzadellika** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:46 pm

Don't like the fit for OKC...I think Durant and Bargnani probably would get in each others way trying to do the same sorts of things...on the other hand it's a nightmare front-court for everyone else in the league

prefuse73 · Post #5 » by **prefuse73** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 5:59 pm

meh.. cut toronto out..

Williams/Ridnour/Ellington for Harden/Collison

OKC
Gets a legit offensive threat at PF and replaces Hardens production with Ridnour/Ellington

Min
Gets Harden and a quality vet big.

Pek / Collison / Darko
Love / Beasley
Johnson / Beasley / Webster
Harden / Webster / Barea
Rubio / Barea

guille_4 · Post #6 » by **guille_4** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:21 pm

prefuse73 wrote:meh.. cut toronto out..

Williams/Ridnour/Ellington for Harden/Collison

OKC
Gets a legit offensive threat at PF and replaces Hardens production with Ridnour/Ellington

Min
Gets Harden and a quality vet big.

Pek / Collison / Darko
Love / Beasley
Johnson / Beasley / Webster
Harden / Webster / Barea
Rubio / Barea

OKC says no. Both Harden and Collison are too valuable to trade them for a couple role players. Wish it happened though, love them both! I would be willing to trade anyone but Rubio and Love, I'd even take back Perkins' contract.

Post #7 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 6:24 pm

Guidus88 wrote:this seems a good trade for all teams.
anyway i dont think it will happen

eyeteeth wrote:This is a surprisingly balanced trade. Most trades I see posted here I feel like I can shoot down easily. This one, while I doubt it happens just because I don't think OKC trades Harden no matter what, does seem like a possibly decent return on value for all teams involved. The big question is how much OKC likes Bargnani. IF they felt he was a center who could impact playoff games, then it gets pretty interesting.

On a related note, do people think that Perkins has been a disappointment in OKC? I kind of get that feeling.

Really? 'cause I don't see OKC or Toronto biting on this.

Fire Mchale · Post #8 » by **Fire Mchale** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:34 pm

[RCG] wrote:MN out: Williams, Webster, Ridnour, Miller, Utah 1st,
MN in: Harden, Calderon

Wolves get their SG of the future and a solid back-up PG that expires when Harden needs to be extended.

Rubio/Calderon/Barea
Harden/Ellington/Lee
Johnson/Beasley
Love/Beasley/Tolliver/Randolph
Pekovic/Milicic

TOR out: Bargnani, DeRozan, Calderon
TOR in: Williams, Webster, Ridnour, Miller, Mohammed, Utah 1st, OKC 1st

Raptors start anew with D.Williams, Valanciunias, a top pick in '12, another 1st in '12 and boat-loads of cap-space.

Ridnour/Bayless
Webster/Barbosa
Butler/Johnson
Williams/Davis
Johnson/Gray

OKC out: Harden, Mohammed, OKC '12 1st
OKC in: Bargnani, DeRozan

OKC cash in Harden for two additional pieces. Bargnani could play PF next to Perkins or at C. He will excel as a third option, with DeRozan as a fourth option.

Westbrook/Jackson
Sefolosha/DeRozan
Durant/DeRozan
Ibaka/Collison
Bargnani/Perkins

Raptors may not do this (perhaps add in the Memphis pick to Raptors), thoughts?

No way Toronto goes for this. Will Valanciunas in their back pocket, they can hide Bargnani's defense at PF. If they move either player, it will be for more assets than this one I"m afraid.

Narf · Post #9 » by **Narf** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:40 pm

OKC is the favorite in the West. Even if the assets are equal, why would they diminish that team? They want to win a championship this year, and they are set up well for the next 7 years.

Derozan from Toronto is attainable though.

Guidus88 · Post #10 » by **Guidus88** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:47 pm

Narf wrote:OKC is the favorite in the West. Even if the assets are equal, why would they diminish that team? They want to win a championship this year, and they are set up well for the next 7 years.

Derozan from Toronto is attainable though.

this is the reason why this trade, unfortunatly, wont happen.

Viljanen · Post #11 » by **Viljanen** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:17 pm

Toronto allways looks for non-american players. Is dificult for them to retail american players if they have success. D.Williams would only make a new contract with them in case he results being a bust.

Appart from that, they need to rebuid, not to destroy the team. They´ve been waiting on Bargnani to develop for some years, now he looks like he has, I don´t see them trading him for another "green" young player.