Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5

Marlo Stanfield · Post #301 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:54 pm

bongmarley wrote:Barnes is a Jamal Mashburn clone

In seasons Mashburn played over 60 games (6 seasons) he averaged 37 mpg, 41 FG%

, 19.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.2 apg and btw he was a 77% career free throw shooter. I'd say that's a valid comparison if we're going by the numbers. I just hope HB can shoot a higher percentage.

Post #302 » by **Undefeated** » Mon Feb 6, 2012 11:57 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:
Mediocrity wrote:Can anyone tell me about Wroten? I have heard nothing about him, so I was wondering what makes him appealing. Where is he projected to go now? Will he be a riser? There are so many questions in this draft, I cannot wait until draft day; there are going to be a million trades!

He's this year's Tyreke Evans. Has the size, athleticism and skill level of a star but has good stats bad team moron ball pounder written all over him. Will probably drop 17 and 6 his rookie season and be declared the steal of the draft, who knows what happens from there

Still, a team picking 10th or 11th might be on board with getting a 20 and 6 Evans/Stuckey talent and the chance to whip him into shape. Last year everyone knew Marshon Brooks had as much 20ppg ability as anyone in the draft, but was declared a Ricky Davis type chucker/loser - But Brooks so far has apparantely had a great attitude, so you just don't know, talent is talent.

I could see New Orleans going SF/PF/C their first pick, and PG their 2nd. And Phoenix looking for a guy to fill Nash's shoes. Wroten comes into workouts, looks good, all of a sudden he goes top 10

Wroten is much more explosive off the bounce than Tyreke Evans who relies mostly on his insane ball-handling and long strides when slashing and I doubt Wroten measures out to be 6'6.5" in shoes like he's currently listed. I'd say Wroten is more John Wall than Tyreke Evans though. Still, Wroten seems to be that dynamic PG that the Raptors are looking for; dominates the ball, has a knack for getting to the basket at will with his explosiveness and ball-handling, drawing contact and getting to the line. We need a guard who can draw that sort of attention against set defenses, opening up scoring opportunities for DeMar DeRozan, Andrea Bargnani or Harrison Barnes/Jeremy Lamb. Imagine how deadly the Raptors will be on the perimeter with the defense always having to commit to Wroten's slashing ability.

The knock against Wroten is his decision-making and recklessness. But it's easy to overlook those weaknesses when his talent, skill and production overshadows it. If Wroten is projected to go in the mid/late first-round or early-second, then I'd be willing to take a flier on him considering he could be a home run under the right setting and proper coaching which I think the Raptors have to offer.

And I think there's a reason why Wroten dominates the ball so much because Abdul Gaddy is such a terrible, terrible ball-handler and passer. Just an example, but he single-handedly cost UW a game against Marquette back in December during the Jimmy V Classic with him driving right into two defenders and throwing up a hail mary when his teammates were wide open, especially Terrence Ross who was clutch that game.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=313400269

Steely Reserve · Post #303 » by **Steely Reserve** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:13 am

You all still want Drummond? lol

Still think je can play PF? lol x2

This guy is dumb as a box of rocks... at least on the basketball court. Those of you who lavished over the guy owe people like me a sincere apology.

I'm waiting...

JN · Post #304 » by JN » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:15 am

Its absolutely pathetic how people on this board blame non NBA prospects. How you can watch that play and blame Abdul Gaddy is beyond me. What exactly was Ross planning to do. Sure Ross was wide open, but their is no way a pass and shot could have gotten off in time -- maybe if he would have cut to the basket, or tried to create a passing lane earlier in the play,

Steely Reserve · Post #305 » by **Steely Reserve** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:20 am

Some of you really had Jeremy Lamb in your top 5? *hand slap laughter*

I'll admit I had him a little too high on my draft board as well (#7-9). His lack of explosion off the dribble is a little very concerning. Also his decision making and lack leadership ability is being exposed with this UCONN team.

Bottomline is he's a solid role player at the next level. But unfortunately you don't draft role players in the top 10.

JN · Post #306 » by JN » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:21 am

Didn't take your meds tonight Steely?

Steely Reserve · Post #307 » by **Steely Reserve** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:24 am

JN wrote:Didn't take your meds tonight Steely?

Be honest how many bandwagons have to jump on this season?

Marlo Stanfield · Post #308 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:26 am

JN wrote:Didn't take your meds tonight Steely?

Post #309 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:37 am

Boatright could win some college hardware one day.

nahom1319 · Post #310 » by **nahom1319** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:42 am

didn't realize UConn was playing recap??

nahom1319 · Post #311 » by **nahom1319** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:47 am

long shot long rebound wtf is calhoun telling these guys

Post #312 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:15 am

nahom1319 wrote:didn't realize UConn was playing recap??

Just flipping on Raps commercials but Boatright is the fastest with the ball I've seen in the NCAA this year. He's about 5'8 and can dunk, also dish.

Louisville has been on a run since halfway through the first, their zone is tough. Lamb just got his first bucket 3 minutes into the 3rd.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #313 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:28 am

He's playing like crap, BUT WATCH HIM DANCE!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OfiCpnmc-A&feature=g-vrec&context=G28daf68RVAAAAAAAAAw[/youtube]

JN · Post #314 » by JN » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:41 am

Uconn down 27, with four minutes to play. Absolutely pathetic -- the baskets they score look impressive, but the team lacks so much passion -- giving up so many easy baskets. Lamb is totally disinterested.

Down 30 now

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #315 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:48 am

JN wrote:Uconn down 27, with four minutes to play. Absolutely pathetic -- the baskets they score look impressive, but the team lacks so much passion -- giving up so many easy baskets. Lamb is totally disinterested.

Down 30 now

I know, Drummond looks disinterested beyond belief.

Tough Tony D · Post #316 » by **Tough Tony D** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:51 am

31 scouts supposed to be at that game too.

Post #317 » by **Undefeated** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:56 am

Ryan Boatwright beasted that game. Too bad UConn got blown out.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #318 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:57 am

Tough Tony D wrote:31 scouts supposed to be at that game too.

The game that should be heavily scouted as well is Florida vs. Kentucky tomorrow. If Beal has a big game, and helps Florida upset Kentucky (which I think is possible, particularly if Patric Young can be physical with Anthony Davis, another interesting individual matchup there), then Beal could all of a sudden find himself rising up the boards, maybe even close to top 5.

Unfortunately, I'll miss a large chunk of that game, but if you guys can recap the performances of all the major prospects involved, it'd be much appreciated.

JN · Post #319 » by JN » Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:47 am

I don't think Florida has much of a chance at Kentucky. The return match in Florida later in February is a different story however. Home court advantage is huge in BCS conferences.

JN · Post #320 » by JN » Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:50 am

Undefeated wrote:Ryan Boatwright beasted that game. Too bad UConn got blown out.

It must have been the first half which I missed.... I think he should stay in school though.

Whom do you want the Raptors to select in the 2012 NBA draft?