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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#521 » by CoolKids » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:51 am

Manhattan Project wrote:Lack of competition in college, despite being the biggest known sleeper.
Lack of any physical tools. Not exactly athletic, doesn't have quickness.
Lack of shot for the most part.
Bouncing from team to team.

Things he had going for him:
IQ/Relentlessness/Passion for the game.

Lin is that type of dude who gets picked on and stands up to the bully and earns his respect. You can see it now, remember just a few weeks ago where he was fouling guys left and right? He would have 3 fouls in like 4 minutes? Remember him trying to bring the ball up, get pressed and turn it over? He obviously adjusted because look at him now.

I doubt anyone of us expected this, but we knew that he had to be better than the way Douglas was playing. Lin is getting bye right now with his head and heart, hard to not root for that.

seems pretty athletic and quick to me
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Re: If Iman is the next Dwayne Wade 

Post#522 » by Orange Mamba » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:51 am

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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#523 » by Brooklyn53 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:52 am

wpetinaudjr wrote:
PurpleGoldDyn wrote:talking about small sample size..... it's just 2 games........


I have to agree! It's 2 games! I think people need to chill out. I'm just as excited everyone else and the kid is playing out of his mind right now. However, I'm a realist. People are setting themselves up for an epic disappointment.

Just about any legit NBA guard has the capabilities of playing this well if given the green light to just do their thing and they fly under the opposing coaches game plan. You can evaluate a players true worth once they make it onto an opposing teams scouting report. These next couple of games will truly be revealing, not just on Lin's abilities but the D'Antoni ability to actually game plan and coach.

I do appreciate that he plays with a level of intelligence and he understand pace. I really really look forward to seeing the game on Wednesday.

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you do realize we just won this game WITHOUT CARMELO AND AMARE right? how about you both relax and gtfo
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Re: If Iman is the next Dwayne Wade 

Post#524 » by Bran Fast Hands » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:52 am

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Bran Fast Hands wrote:He got called D Wade lite, or some even said he was as good or even better than D Wade was as a rookie. I liked Shumperts game today though.

Speak for yourself, many were saying Iman's ceiling was Dwayne Wade.



I never said any of that, it was just kind of thing that was being posted after his first few games.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#525 » by BrOnXKing1 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:53 am

michaelc204 wrote:Not a lot of teams were in such dire need of a PG. The Knicks let him play through a lot of mistakes today (8 turnovers), and often times he tried to do too much. Not a hater, just calling it how it is. He'll be great if he could keep the turnovers to a minimum.


His first half was flawless, he got tired in the 2nd half which led to the turnovers. But again when we needed him in the 4th, he came thru.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#526 » by Johnny Firpo » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:56 am

D'Antoni can't run this kid into the ground, at least 3 TO is on him as a result of fatigue, another 2 is on other Knicks players fumbling the ball, 1 was a great defensive play (somebody poked the ball, it happens) i really only remember 1 or maybe 2 TO that was the result of a reckless pass. He'll have a little more TO than your average PG (he attacks a lot) but this is obviously an outlier game, because he's a smart player, and passer, he won't do much fancy stuff. D'Antoni needs to manage his minutes better.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#527 » by Orange Mamba » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:56 am

CoolKids wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:Lack of competition in college, despite being the biggest known sleeper.
Lack of any physical tools. Not exactly athletic, doesn't have quickness.
Lack of shot for the most part.
Bouncing from team to team.

Things he had going for him:
IQ/Relentlessness/Passion for the game.

Lin is that type of dude who gets picked on and stands up to the bully and earns his respect. You can see it now, remember just a few weeks ago where he was fouling guys left and right? He would have 3 fouls in like 4 minutes? Remember him trying to bring the ball up, get pressed and turn it over? He obviously adjusted because look at him now.

I doubt anyone of us expected this, but we knew that he had to be better than the way Douglas was playing. Lin is getting bye right now with his head and heart, hard to not root for that.

seems pretty athletic and quick to me


Still has to work on his left-hand but I'm pleased for the most part :D
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Re: If Iman is the next Dwayne Wade 

Post#528 » by NYCrusader » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:59 am

Bran Fast Hands wrote:I never said any of that, it was just kind of thing that was being posted after his first few games.


I didn't said you did which is why I said speak for yourself, there was a thread on the subject which was very long because of how preposterous the comparison was with many people defending it.

And the biggest pro Iman being Dwayne Wade person in that thread specifically got called out by another regular which I am not on the fact that he hyped up Fields his rookie year as well and brought out quotes.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#529 » by moocow007 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:00 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:D'Antoni can't run this kid into the ground, at least 3 TO is on him as a result of fatigue, another 2 is on other Knicks players fumbling the ball, 1 was a great defensive play (somebody poked the ball, it happens) i really only remember 1 or maybe 2 TO that was the result of a reckless pass. He'll have a little more TO than your average PG (he attacks a lot) but this is obviously an outlier game, because he's a smart player, and passer, he won't do much fancy stuff. D'Antoni needs to manage his minutes better.


Yep. 44 minutes tonight. Pretty soon Lin won't be able to feel his legs.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#530 » by wpetinaudjr » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:01 am

Brooklyn53 wrote:
wpetinaudjr wrote:
PurpleGoldDyn wrote:talking about small sample size..... it's just 2 games........


I have to agree! It's 2 games! I think people need to chill out. I'm just as excited everyone else and the kid is playing out of his mind right now. However, I'm a realist. People are setting themselves up for an epic disappointment.

Just about any legit NBA guard has the capabilities of playing this well if given the green light to just do their thing and they fly under the opposing coaches game plan. You can evaluate a players true worth once they make it onto an opposing teams scouting report. These next couple of games will truly be revealing, not just on Lin's abilities but the D'Antoni ability to actually game plan and coach.

I do appreciate that he plays with a level of intelligence and he understand pace. I really really look forward to seeing the game on Wednesday.

Wayne

you do realize we just won this game WITHOUT CARMELO AND AMARE right? how about you both relax and gtfo


Okay killer relax and I'll stay, tough guy! :D
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Re: If Iman is the next Dwayne Wade 

Post#531 » by Bran Fast Hands » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:01 am

Fair enough, to be fair I just skim read through those threads and saw some quotes along those lines.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#532 » by moocow007 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:02 am

Honestly, Lin is no less athletic than Deron Williams. Could be just me but the asian thing probably also factors into the perception that he's not athletic. What helps him is that he's got really strong legs (if you take a look at his calves their pumped) and that helps him with pushing off, changing directions, sharp cuts and fighting through picks.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#533 » by Manhattan Project » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:05 am

moocow007 wrote:Honestly, Lin is no less athletic than Deron Williams. Could be just me but the asian thing probably also factors into the perception that he's not athletic. What helps him is that he's got really strong legs (if you take a look at his calves their pumped) and that helps him with pushing off, changing directions, sharp cuts and fighting through picks.


He has a quick first step, but I don't see him having top end speed. It's that first step and explosive drive that makes him appear quick IMO if that makes sense. I think it's more of a case of him picking his spots and sticking with it.
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The Lakers were interested in Lin 

Post#534 » by PurpleGoldDyn » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:05 am

The Lakers were interested in Lin before he went to the Warriors. Maybe they should’ve pushed harder for him after he was released by the Warriors (and the Rockets) early this season considering how much searching the Lakers continue to do for point-guard promise. The Lakers will be in New York to play the Knicks on Friday night.

http://lakers.ocregister.com/2012/02/06/lakers-to-see-rising-knicks-point-guard-jeremy-lin/69040/


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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#535 » by maddbaron » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:06 am

I like that he's a smart pg... I read that he said in an interview he uses Trigonometry to break down plays and opposing defenses on the fly which explains his assists... how do u even defend against that? he literally can figure out EVERY weakness of the other team... teams wanted him b/c he was a great college player but he got no respect for being asian... personally I'd love for him to be the long term PG solution then we can develop Shump as a SG and have a really dynamic backcourt.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#536 » by coldgrip1 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:07 am

The only player in history to win California state player of the year and didn't get a college scholarship.

The only player in history to be a finalist for the NCAA Bob Cousy and didn't get drafted.

People see him play and they can see he gets his job done, but they have this thing in the back of their head that tells them "this kid is Asian.. he looks soft... he's too pale" lol...
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#537 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:07 am

Not athletic my azz. He has body control to weave in traffic and get to the rim around defenders, something most NBA players can't do. He can get off contested difficult shots around the rim while in the air. He has a great first step. He can stay in front of his man on defense. Looks like an athlete to me.
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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#538 » by GnarlesOakley » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:08 am

moocow007 wrote:Honestly, Lin is no less athletic than Deron Williams. Could be just me but the asian thing probably also factors into the perception that he's not athletic. What helps him is that he's got really strong legs (if you take a look at his calves their pumped) and that helps him with pushing off, changing directions, sharp cuts and fighting through picks.


Yeah, I really think the "unathletic" thing is somewhat related to race and what school he went to. He's not freak of nature athletic, if he was he definitely would have been drafted, but he has speed to him and has the first step to get by NBA defenders. He's far more athletic than Nash for instance.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Named Knicks Starting Point Guard 

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Re: How Does A Talent Like Lin Not Get Recognized ? 

Post#540 » by wpetinaudjr » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:09 am

moocow007 wrote:Honestly, Lin is no less athletic than Deron Williams. Could be just me but the asian thing probably also factors into the perception that he's not athletic. What helps him is that he's got really strong legs (if you take a look at his calves their pumped) and that helps him with pushing off, changing directions, sharp cuts and fighting through picks.


Moocoow,

Good Point! It's not just you! I noticed his core and legs too (almost running back-esque) with a lower center of gravity. He looks very shifty.

Good Point!
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