OFFICIAL - Jeremy Lin "LINSANITY" Thread

[asdfgh]

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The most interesting thing he said was that while he was getting all those racist remarks while in college (and he was usually playing against Ivy league schools, whose students are supposed to be some of the brightest LMAO), he hasn't heard anything racist at all, neither from fans nor from players once he began playing in the NBA.
That just goes to show how much more civilized the NBA is compared to college basketball.

[uncarved]

Lack of competition in college, despite being the biggest known sleeper.
Lack of any physical tools. Not exactly athletic, doesn't have quickness.
Lack of shot for the most part.
Bouncing from team to team.

Things he had going for him:
IQ/Relentlessness/Passion for the game.

Lin is that type of dude who gets picked on and stands up to the bully and earns his respect. You can see it now, remember just a few weeks ago where he was fouling guys left and right? He would have 3 fouls in like 4 minutes? Remember him trying to bring the ball up, get pressed and turn it over? He obviously adjusted because look at him now.

I doubt anyone of us expected this, but we knew that he had to be better than the way Douglas was playing. Lin is getting bye right now with his head and heart, hard to not root for that.

seems pretty athletic and quick to me

I think people have been using speed and quickness interchangeably. To me, quickness means explosiveness/agility. Lin has that. However, he doesn't seem to have exceptional speed from one end of the court to the other, which is fine. He'll get fewer fast break points, but as we saw in tonight's game, Lin can bring the ball up more slowly and use the time to get some rest when the Knicks are in the lead.

[CoolKids]

you dont seem too bright so here ya go. This is where you want to post. Now gtfo.

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[michaelc204]

The knicks let him play because he was leading the team. He was finding the open man. He was rewarding his teammates to move w/o the ball which makes it harder for the defense to defend.

He also played 44 minutes at a very high energy level. 8 TO's ? for all the good he did for the Knicks tonite ? I'll take 8 TO's every nite if he does this. Look beyond the stats ...lol

Okay before more people start getting their feelings hurt by my comments let me clarify. No other team would have let him play 44 minutes. Its just that Douglas and Bibby has been stinking up the place for the entire season. Take any old pedestrian team like the Jazz or Warriors and they would have sat him after signs of fatigue.

[Sideline Story]

What does it take for you to leave..

[mildred]

So would we mostly agree that if Lin was American or European he probably would've been recognized sooner for his ability to impact an NBA game ?

And I don't buy that other NBA teams needed help in other positions so they didn't feel a need to keep him. If GS and Houston didn't need backcourt help they just shouldn't have discarded the potential asset that this kid can become for a bag of shells. There is no doubt in my mind his Asian decent was the primary reason for not really paying attention to his game on an NBA level.

[Brooklyn53]

how did people turn that into an avi? it keeps saying it;s too big. can someone help resize please?

[NOODLESTYLE]

He chose Golden State.

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[Knox]

Being in the right system for talent has a lot to do with it

[lazyskillz]

JLin is Jason Kidd 1.5 (not as good as 2.0).

They're similiar

- height and weight
- great floor vision
- ability to get into the paint
- fill up the stat sheet with points, rebs, asts, stls, blks and turnovers.
- great defensive awareness
- poor shooters (though Kidd improved a lot as career progressed)

Kidd is more talented/athletic and savvy. I love JLin but I don't see him having a Hall of Fame career.

[knicksosmoove]

he seems pretty quick to me

[asdfgh]

So would we mostly agree that if Lin was American or European he probably would've been recognized sooner for his ability to impact an NBA game ?

And I don't buy that other NBA teams needed help in other positions so they didn't feel a need to keep him. If GS and Houston didn't need backcourt help they just shouldn't have discarded the potential asset that this kid can become for a bag of shells. There is no doubt in my mind his Asian decent was the primary reason for not really paying attention to his game on an NBA level.

I wouldn't go that far, at least as long as we're talking about his NBA career. There are a lot of good players in the league (or out of the league), especially guards, who don't get a chance because there are other players ahead of making more money.
Look at a guy like Ariel McDonald for example who has been playing great in Europe despite not given a chance by any NBA teams. It just happens sometimes. Or Drazen Petrovic, a 12th man in Portland, goes to Jersey and becomes an all-star.

But if you're talking about him not being recruited by top colleges despite being the high school player of the year in Cali I would agree with you.

[DocZaius]

Because he's an asian american man, who are looked down by society as inferior male specimens.

[NYCrusader]

JLin is Jason Kidd 1.5 (not as good as 2.0).

They're similiar

- height and weight
- great floor vision
- ability to get into the paint
- fill up the stat sheet with points, rebs, asts, stls, blks and turnovers.
- great defensive awareness
- poor shooters (though Kidd improved a lot as career progressed)

Kidd is more talented/athletic and savvy. I love JLin but I don't see him having a Hall of Fame career.

No.

[lazyskillz]

Lin made a mistake choosing Golden State after he was having a nice summer league run with the Mavs. Had he stayed with Mavs Carlisle would have made him better instead he got burried in Golden State. He could have learned from Kidd and competed against Barea and Beaubois. He wasted two years this way, Mavs did believe in him.

+1000. Lin and his agent took the guaranteed contract his home town Warriors offered instead of looking long term at career development.

[stuporman]

I don't know why someone who is Asian would have a rep of lacking in athletic ability when martial arts training that has a home in nearly every Asian culture is about as much about athletic ability and body control than just about any sport in the world. Maybe they aren't as practiced in basketball as a foreign culture but Lin is American born and raised so his culture is American first and foremost and his Asian part is genes, it's not his upbringing, he's not foreign. He's got that American swag!

You can say their body type as Asians generally isn't built for basketball but Lin is 6-3.5 and that's perfect height for a PG. He may not have a great shooting stroke coming out of college but how many other players don't have one either but get drafted anyway. Sure he came from a college of little acclaim but he did produce himself in an epic way that I see so many people seem to feel is important for a player to have done and succeed at the next level.

It just makes no sense why he didn't get the chance at all. It's not like it's been years and years that it took him to develop. It's been just about 18 months since the draft that he was passed up in so really how much could he have improved in a year and a half? Undoubtedly he did learn some but was it in leaps and bounds for him to perform like he has and not show a glimpse of it at all or enough for a team to want to hold on to him and let him develop?

Even our coach didn't see it until he got hit in the head with it by accident. The coach basically had to have no other option and out of desperation try the kid. He's going to have bad games and at times he's going to look very inexperienced. Although in a few years who knows how much more he can develop. Look how long it took Nash to mature into what he became.

I guess you could say it is 'racism' that is why people overlooked him. He doesn't 'look' like a basketball player so he didn't get the respect his skills deserved. Thankfully for it though because it is why he wound up on the Knicks. He wound up in NY, the melting pot, the city that doesn't judge you on what you look like but on what you do. He's NY personified.

[JustCame]

JLin is not Rondo. Rondo is much more athletic, an all-nba defender, better ball handler, better passer, and better slasher (mainly because he can go left). Lin is not a slouch in these areas, but come on now..he does seem like a better shooter/scorer however.

[MaseInYourFace]

Kid impressed me. Not gonna front.

[Condi Rice]

Lin reminds me of Alivin Williams... not the most gifted athletically, but hard worker worker, good bball IQ.

[BrOnXKing1]

Maybe its just me, but Lin reminds me of poor man's Nash without a shot. Just the way he pentrates and his passing. Also Nash played college ball in the bay area, Lin might of modeled his game after him!