Malone will never work for the Jazz organization

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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#81 » by stevebozell » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:29 am

Fido wrote:I find it hard to believe that Malone is continuing his stance on Sloan leaving when Greg Miller, KOC, Phil Johnson, and even Jerry Sloan himself deny Malone's version of events. Is he too proud or is this paranoia creeping in? What is his end game? What is he trying to prove or accomplish?


Did you even hear Malones version of events? You clearly did not hear the radio show at all. Jerry never specifically denied his version of anything.

Either way Im impressed your guardian lets you on the computer, thats a huge step up for the handicapped.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#82 » by Fido » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:55 am

Classy steve-o. First vagina jokes and now handicapped jokes. Your parents must be proud. :thumbsup:
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#83 » by Amish Mafioso » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:17 am

stevebozell wrote:Did you even hear Malones version of events? You clearly did not hear the radio show at all.


I didn't catch it. So what did Karl say when they asked him about that 13 year old girl he porked when he was in college? Or does he just like to go around stirring up **** that is none of his God damned business?
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Post#84 » by BringtheD » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:39 pm

i think greggy just put up the last ten posts on the blog here. to me, sounds like there's a sex tape involved somewhere.
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Post#85 » by BarneyGumble » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:49 pm

Wow...tons of hate-mail ( ;) )for Mailman in this thread...

Get off Karl's junk. He has his personality flaws but he should be respected for the person he has become over the years. I love how people point to his statutory rape of a 13 year old when he was 18. Im not here to defend Malone or the act...but did any of you grow up in the deep South in the 1970s? I served an LDS mission in a country where 30 year old men had children with girls as young as 13 years old and nobody batted an eyelash. Just cultural gap that needs some catching up to accepted society. Why hate on Malone for his past sins. Look at the man he is now:

Dude is super charitable. And loyal...he didnt make like today's stars and take off for the limelight and rings in a big market. He stayed, took less money time and again to afford role players here, and brought the limping, geriatric Utah Jazz roster to the brink of defeating the NBA's golden goose.

He has made ammends with his past. If Cheryl Ford can forgive and respect Karl, we should too.

Yeah, so he ran his mouth. That's what Karl does. But I'll tell you something....there is no way in HELL he is wrong. Sloan AND Johnson WALKED OUT TOGETHER on the franchise IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON. That tells you something. Sloan just has too much class to do anything but cast the Jazz in a good light after the fact.

And I disagree with whoever said Greg Miller didnt do anything wrong. He is the head of a very public organization. Resorting to Jerry Springer-style fueds should be beneath him as a business man and a leader. Clearly it is not...and we should worry about the Jazz franchise going forward if the leadership doesnt improve....
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Post#86 » by ColdBlue » Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:58 pm

BarneyGumble wrote:I served an LDS mission in a country where 30 year old men had children with girls as young as 13 years old and nobody batted an eyelash. Just cultural gap that needs some catching up to accepted society.


Don't quit your day job and become a lawyer.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#87 » by BarneyGumble » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:17 pm

ColdBlue wrote:
BarneyGumble wrote:I served an LDS mission in a country where 30 year old men had children with girls as young as 13 years old and nobody batted an eyelash. Just cultural gap that needs some catching up to accepted society.


Don't quit your day job and become a lawyer.


Obviously things are different today, even in the deep South, than they were in the 70's. But why look back at Karl's mistakes and hate on him for them? Is he still a rotten douche? Is he not married to the same woman for decades with children together? Did he not reconcile with the other two kids? Do we know the facts about why his relationship w/ the other girl and her kid is so bad?

Malone's father blew his brains out when he was barely old enough to count his toes and fingers. Dude did not have the most ideal childhood, jockeying for attention with a dozen other kids and a workhorse mother as the glue of the family. You can see that he gets his work ethic from her, and his "attention-seeking" personality from not having a father and being just one face in the crowd of brothers and sisters.

Get off the man's jock already.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#88 » by Fido » Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:32 pm

BarneyGumble wrote:...
And loyal...he didnt make like today's stars and take off for the limelight and rings in a big market.
...

<cough>Lakers</cough>

I'm not saying bash Malone. I just think he is wrong on this particular issue and don't understand why he is trashing the Jazz organization in the press. I also don't understand why people think it is okay for Malone to do it because he is Karl Malone but if anyone throws it back at him then THEY are wrong. We don't all have to agree on the issue.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#89 » by BarneyGumble » Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:38 pm

Fido wrote:
BarneyGumble wrote:...
And loyal...he didnt make like today's stars and take off for the limelight and rings in a big market.
...

<cough>Lakers</cough>

I'm not saying bash Malone. I just think he is wrong on this particular issue and don't understand why he is trashing the Jazz organization in the press. I also don't understand why people think it is okay for Malone to do it because he is Karl Malone but if anyone throws it back at him then THEY are wrong. We don't all have to agree on the issue.


Fair enough, I dont disagree really.

Karl was a professional basketball player, a damned good one. He's not much else....except rugged and rough around the edges. Greg is suppose to be a professional, a business man....running a public organization that requires tact in dousing flames and shining a positive light on the ship you are trying to run. Getting into a 7th grade texting fight with the greatest player to wear your team's uniform is unprofessional in the business he runs. Karl doesnt run a franchise, or have to try to keep ticket-buying fans happy. He's just sticking up for his coach. Ask Isaih Thomas's scar if Malone isnt expected to come to the defense of his boy..... :lol:
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Post#90 » by retiredcoach » Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:48 pm

I find historical revisionism interesting.

1. Malone didn't take less money to play for the Jazz. The Jazz paid him over $100 mil during his career. Michael Jordan made &90 mil over 13 years. Scottie Pippen made about the same as Malone. So no Malone wasn't helping Larry out.

2. Malone got lucky he wasn't tried for statutory rape. He denied paternity for many years. So no Malone wasn't a high character guy. Charity begins at home. Taking care of your kids is the least a guy making a $100 mil can do. If a guy won't take responsibility for his kids is he going to take responsibility for other things--or just blame other people.

3. Karl failed at almost every business venture he went into, and there were several. Larry set him up with the car dealerships as way to make sure Malone had something besides basketball that was successful. Karl was constantly feuding with LHM about money.

4. Karl had to donate a $500K weight room to LaTech to get his name on the coaching staff roster as an assistant strength coach. Do you think Karl spends anytime coaching anyone at LaTech? Now that Rupp is gone, it's even hard to find Karl listed as anything other than a donor. Karl lives in Ruston. Do you think he could help Tech recruit? Karl only helps himself.

5. When Karl left the Jazz he was making close to $20 mil a year in the final year of his contract. LHM offered him between $10 and $12 mil for two more years and that pissed Karl off. Next thing you know, he's leaving the Jazz because he wanted a ring. That was one of the biggest bone headed moves in basketball at that time. Malone could have made $24 mil more, got the all time scoring record-which may never be broken--and actually showed loyalty to a team, a town and a guy who had bent over backwards to give hime what he needed.

6. Karl had two chances to win a ring. He played okay, but he didn't step up and the take the ring he so badly wanted. Sorry, but when you get there twice, it's your show Karl.

Malone and Stockton helped the Jazz, no question. Stockton made $66 mil during his 16 year career, and he took a major salary cut the last two years of his contract. He didn't let his ego get the best of him and run off looking for a ring or whatever.

I like Karl. He's funny and interesting. But he's prone to half truths, hyperbole and egotism. He likes media attention. And he talks to much given his publicly declared interest in being a Jazz coach.

Karl won't ever be a Jazz coach. Miller is smart enough to leave the circus in Louisiana where it belongs.

Karl was a great power forward, no question, and now he's a great side show. Nothing more.
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Post#91 » by BarneyGumble » Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:26 pm

retiredcoach wrote:I find historical revisionism interesting.

1. Malone didn't take less money to play for the Jazz. The Jazz paid him over $100 mil during his career. Michael Jordan made &90 mil over 13 years. Scottie Pippen made about the same as Malone. So no Malone wasn't helping Larry out.

2. Malone got lucky he wasn't tried for statutory rape. He denied paternity for many years. So no Malone wasn't a high character guy. Charity begins at home. Taking care of your kids is the least a guy making a $100 mil can do. If a guy won't take responsibility for his kids is he going to take responsibility for other things--or just blame other people.

3. Karl failed at almost every business venture he went into, and there were several. Larry set him up with the car dealerships as way to make sure Malone had something besides basketball that was successful. Karl was constantly feuding with LHM about money.

4. Karl had to donate a $500K weight room to LaTech to get his name on the coaching staff roster as an assistant strength coach. Do you think Karl spends anytime coaching anyone at LaTech? Now that Rupp is gone, it's even hard to find Karl listed as anything other than a donor. Karl lives in Ruston. Do you think he could help Tech recruit? Karl only helps himself.

5. When Karl left the Jazz he was making close to $20 mil a year in the final year of his contract. LHM offered him between $10 and $12 mil for two more years and that pissed Karl off. Next thing you know, he's leaving the Jazz because he wanted a ring. That was one of the biggest bone headed moves in basketball at that time. Malone could have made $24 mil more, got the all time scoring record-which may never be broken--and actually showed loyalty to a team, a town and a guy who had bent over backwards to give hime what he needed.

6. Karl had two chances to win a ring. He played okay, but he didn't step up and the take the ring he so badly wanted. Sorry, but when you get there twice, it's your show Karl.

Malone and Stockton helped the Jazz, no question. Stockton made $66 mil during his 16 year career, and he took a major salary cut the last two years of his contract. He didn't let his ego get the best of him and run off looking for a ring or whatever.

I like Karl. He's funny and interesting. But he's prone to half truths, hyperbole and egotism. He likes media attention. And he talks to much given his publicly declared interest in being a Jazz coach.

Karl won't ever be a Jazz coach. Miller is smart enough to leave the circus in Louisiana where it belongs.

Karl was a great power forward, no question, and now he's a great side show. Nothing more.


Alot of what you say is true...but however you look at it, the only Ace in the crap hand Malone was dealt in life was his physical stature and athleticism and he didnt squander it...he overcame many obstacles to become one of the most successful people in the history of this planet at what HE DOES. Thats no small thing. If he's a douche now, then I guess Im mistaken about him....but its not my place to condemn him for his past sins, and none of us knows all the facts about his past anyway. There are always two sides to every story, and only a fool would run with the one they read in the tabloid. Maybe there's more to Karl not having a relationship with one son than just because he didnt want to own up....but its not my place to speculate. God gives us talents and expects us to use them while becoming better people....hopefully Mail has done both.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#92 » by retiredcoach » Tue Feb 7, 2012 9:48 pm

BG,

I agree Karl did not squander his talent. He made the most of what he had to work with, and he worked really hard at it.

It's too bad he didn't get better judgment to go along with his talent, but that's life.

I don't think anything is black or white. As you know, there are a lot of shades of gray in between.

I don't particularly care for the fans who want to put Karl on a pedestal just because he could play basketball. I understand people envy Karl's physical abilities, but that doesn't mean that everything he says or does is golden. It's good to see the shades of gray that go with these guys.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#93 » by Amish Mafioso » Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:05 am

What did Karl Malone say to the 13 year old girl after he had sex with her?
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#94 » by stevebozell » Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:38 am

Fido wrote:Classy steve-o. First vagina jokes and now handicapped jokes. Your parents must be proud. :thumbsup:



And not once in all of this did you address anything...thanks for proving you had no point to make.
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Re: Malone will never work for the Jazz organization 

Post#95 » by Reckless » Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:50 am

Amish Mafioso wrote:What did Karl Malone say to the 13 year old girl after he had sex with her?


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