GM-A-Team: Suggestions To Improve The Game

[moss_is_1]

I'm not a fan of tiered FA, and particularly how it works for RFA.

I completely understand Deron/Dwight going first, but beyond that it should be relatively open.

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[Karmaloop]

I'm not a fan of tiered FA, and particularly how it works for RFA.

I completely understand Deron/Dwight going first, but beyond that it should be relatively open.

That's a boatload of work for whoever is running FA. It's tough enough trying to keep 6-8 players offers straight, let alone a free for all that would essentially occur. I disagreed about having the RFA separate like they were in this past game, and would have put them in tiers. And in real life, the top players dictate the salaries for the year, and then the next "tier" signs and so on and so forth.

[Karmaloop]

i have an idea for the top FAs (Deron & Dwight for this game).

- everybody sends their offers in to whoever is the agent, commish, etc.
- top three offers are put out on a voting thread
- each of the three teams can make a public offer post convincing the FA to choose them
- the league votes (max 30 votes), and that's where the FA goes.

it might be more work, but it sounds interesting.

The problem with that is teams would have to be shown and at that point your jeopardizing people's opinions by which landing spot benefits them the most. I agree that Dwight/Deron need a neutral observer to decide where they are going, but I'm convinced that those who are running the game are capable of making a sound decision. You could extend the "agents" into tier 2 and 3 as a compromise.

[Karmaloop]

One thing on free agency I think people should be all available and divided into two categories those who seek the cash so pure bidding and those who situation matters with need eg contender stay west coast noted beforehand.basically tier one and two. Bidding would close end of free agency. Then whoever is left over min vet signing

But it's not always clearly one or the other. If the Lakers in real life offered KG the veteran minimum, but the Pacers were offering 10+ million to him, KG would have a very hard time turning down that offer from the Pacers. Maybe for the top three tiers, list what is the preference of the players for example Kevin Garnett (chance to win title, money, playing time, location).

[mtamasi]

i have an idea for the top FAs (Deron & Dwight for this game).

- everybody sends their offers in to whoever is the agent, commish, etc.
- top three offers are put out on a voting thread
- each of the three teams can make a public offer post convincing the FA to choose them
- the league votes (max 30 votes), and that's where the FA goes.

it might be more work, but it sounds interesting.

The problem with that is teams would have to be shown and at that point your jeopardizing people's opinions by which landing spot benefits them the most. I agree that Dwight/Deron need a neutral observer to decide where they are going, but I'm convinced that those who are running the game are capable of making a sound decision. You could extend the "agents" into tier 2 and 3 as a compromise.

i just figured that that's the point of a free agent deciding where he wants to go. it really shouldn't jeopardize anybody's opinion unless they're just looking to help their friends out. with one vote per team everybody can vote for the situation they think is best for that FA. we don't have to do it this game and i'm totally fine with that, but it could be something we explore at some point.

to tell the truth, i kinda got excited when i thought this up.

[Warriorfan]

One thing on free agency I think people should be all available and divided into two categories those who seek the cash so pure bidding and those who situation matters with need eg contender stay west coast noted beforehand.basically tier one and two. Bidding would close end of free agency. Then whoever is left over min vet signing

But it's not always clearly one or the other. If the Lakers in real life offered KG the veteran minimum, but the Pacers were offering 10+ million to him, KG would have a very hard time turning down that offer from the Pacers. Maybe for the top three tiers, list what is the preference of the players for example Kevin Garnett (chance to win title, money, playing time, location).

I understand your pt and player desires before signing should be mandatory. The KG for the min is a little extreme to demonstrate a point but the top tiers should be mle and above. HOF ring chasers like payton and tmac and probably AI will be vet min guys

[Klomp]

Trading:

Approvals will be approved, and posted in an “Approved Trades Thread”, almost all legal trades will be approved.

Sorry, I must've skipped over that

[roc]

One thing on free agency I think people should be all available and divided into two categories those who seek the cash so pure bidding and those who situation matters with need eg contender stay west coast noted beforehand.basically tier one and two. Bidding would close end of free agency. Then whoever is left over min vet signing

But it's not always clearly one or the other. If the Lakers in real life offered KG the veteran minimum, but the Pacers were offering 10+ million to him, KG would have a very hard time turning down that offer from the Pacers. Maybe for the top three tiers, list what is the preference of the players for example Kevin Garnett (chance to win title, money, playing time, location).

considering players get traded like crazysauce in this game I think money trumps a winning team.

unless...

As a few of you know(have discussed rules with you via AIM and a couple have already made it to GM a Team) I have a new game with a bunch of new rules on the drawing board right now. One of the rules for FA will be money trumps all unless you are willing to add a no trade clause. That will stop teams that use the "winning team" argument to acquire assets that they end up flipping anyway.

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[orangeparka]

I think buyouts should be removed. Too many teams with lots of cap space, and it's easy to get rid of expiring deals. Cash seems to be no factor in rankings as well.

Also, make rankings like top 5 or top 10 with honorable mentions or something. It's hard to rank teams 1~30 since this isn't just ranking the best teams, but also taking into consideration the starting roster/improvements/etc.

And no one wants to be "crowned" the worst job done.

[Klomp]

Also, make rankings like top 5 or top 10 with honorable mentions or something. It's hard to rank teams 1~30 since this isn't just ranking the best teams, but also taking into consideration the starting roster/improvements/etc.

I'd also say that doing all 29 will deter posters from submitting any rankings at all. It has for me in the past.

[SamBone]

if you cant take the time to do rankings, simply dont play. its that easy

[Karmaloop]

if you cant take the time to do rankings, simply dont play. its that easy

Agreed. Some time it's impossible to do ranking based on other priorities, but it really doesn't take more than 15 minutes to rank the teams. I did it last night and in a sleep deprived state and it took me less than 15 minutes to rank and jot down a quick note.

[SamBone]

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[SamBone]

if you cant take the time to do rankings, simply dont play. its that easy

Agreed. Some time it's impossible to do ranking based on other priorities, but it really doesn't take more than 15 minutes to rank the teams. I did it last night and in a sleep deprived state and it took me less than 15 minutes to rank and jot down a quick note.

and it showed



sorry i upset you by only trading away 12 of the 15 guys i started with and keeping 3 starters

[Karmaloop]

and it showed



sorry i upset you by only trading away 12 of the 15 guys i started with and keeping 3 starters

LIS, it's tough given the situation you were in. You already had your two main pieces (CP3 and Blake) in place, and really only needed a few minor tweaks but I value movement over sitting still even if it was the right thing to do.

[Warriorfan]

When a player is cut in the nba and resigned by another team a certain pct I think half comes off your cap hit. So last game nate rob was cut by okl and resigned in free agent pool for almost his four mil salary does that still apply.

[Karmaloop]

When a player is cut in the nba and resigned by another team a certain pct I think half comes off your cap hit. So last game nate rob was cut by okl and resigned in free agent pool for almost his four mil salary does that still apply.

Technically speaking, it doesn't at least under the old CBA which governs the rules applied to any contracts signed during that CBA period. Under the new CBA, there is the "stretch provision" with which a team can "stretch" a player's contract over twice the number of years plus one more year. For example, the Knicks could in theory cut Tyson Chandler but have a cap hit of a little over 6 million per year from this season and eight more years after. This only applies to contracts signed under the new CBA.

[Warriorfan]

When a player is cut in the nba and resigned by another team a certain pct I think half comes off your cap hit. So last game nate rob was cut by okl and resigned in free agent pool for almost his four mil salary does that still apply.

Technically speaking, it doesn't at least under the old CBA which governs the rules applied to any contracts signed during that CBA period. Under the new CBA, there is the "stretch provision" with which a team can "stretch" a player's contract over twice the number of years plus one more year. For example, the Knicks could in theory cut Tyson Chandler but have a cap hit of a little over 6 million per year from this season and eight more years after. This only applies to contracts signed under the new CBA.[/quote

Checked coon.
Item 57 the right of set off old CBA FAQ. Since there is bidding people are getting more than min.