HEAT AT MAGIC

Optimus_Steel · Post #861 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:44 am

rcklsscognition wrote:I just read Stan is very pleased with Liggins, he said he put on 15 pounds of muscle since December and is showing progress. They picked him up for the year, so they see something in him. That puts him at 6'6 and 225 pounds. Exact measurements of J-Rich.

Where did you read that?

Hopefully when Stan starts resting players like he said the other day Liggins will get some PT, as well as Harper.

The Real Dalic · Post #862 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:49 am

prorl wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I just read Stan is very pleased with Liggins, he said he put on 15 pounds of muscle since December and is showing progress. They picked him up for the year, so they see something in him. That puts him at 6'6 and 225 pounds. Exact measurements of J-Rich.

Where did you read that?

Hopefully when Stan starts resting players like he said the other day Liggins will get some PT, as well as Harper.

This was from the Official Speculation Thread:

rcklsscognition wrote:From Magic Basketball Online: http://www.magicbasketballonline.com/20 ... rformance/

Rookie DeAndre Liggins may not have played tonight (or this season), but that doesn’t mean that Stan Van Gundy isn’t pleased from what he has seen from him. As of 7pm yesterday, Liggins contract became guaranteed for the remainder of the season. Stan pointed out that despite having been here only 2 months he has already gained 15 pounds of muscle. The key for Liggins will be to just gain experience. At the moment he is buried on the bench, but keeping him around all season, the Magic are clearly pleased with the off-court development they’ve seen.

15 pounds of muscle in 2 months? That's pretty solid growth for anyone, but considering his size he must not have lifted much in college.

I Rasharted · Post #863 » by **I Rasharted** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:57 am

I missed this whole game. Thpt.

ADRajX · Post #864 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:02 am

I Rasharted wrote:I missed this whole game. Thpt.

it's on about to start again on FSN... I'm re-watching it again :rofl:

... that's how much I loved this win

I'm also going to keep track on how many passes Nelson made and how many people missed (why Nelson had 0 assists)

SloNick Russia · Post #865 » by **SloNick Russia** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:03 am

Ryno is a TOP 10 off NBA rebounder which is VERY inpressive for a dude who makes most 3s in the league.

The Real Dalic · Post #866 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:07 am

DJRajX wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:I missed this whole game. Thpt.

it's on about to start again on FSN... I'm re-watching it again ... that's how much I loved this win

I'm also going to keep track on how many passes Nelson made and how many people missed (why Nelson had 0 assists)

You should also keep track of how many times the Heat "left us open" like Heat fans kept saying... cause I thought they played us well, we just moved the ball even better.

arkknight1988 · Post #867 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:11 am

SloNick Russia wrote:Ryno is a TOP 10 off NBA rebounder which is VERY inpressive for a dude who makes most 3s in the league.

so ryan leads the league in 3s and is a top 10 offensive rebounder? impressive breakout year from him. hes about to get paid haha

The Real Dalic · Post #868 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:13 am

arkknight1988 wrote:
SloNick Russia wrote:Ryno is a TOP 10 off NBA rebounder which is VERY inpressive for a dude who makes most 3s in the league.

so ryan leads the league in 3s and is a top 10 offensive rebounder? impressive breakout year from him. hes about to get paid haha

Hopefully not OVERpaid. and, hopefully we're the ones that signs him.

magicman123 · Post #869 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:22 am

DJRajX wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:I missed this whole game. Thpt.

it's on about to start again on FSN... I'm re-watching it again ... that's how much I loved this win

I'm also going to keep track on how many passes Nelson made and how many people missed (why Nelson had 0 assists)

me too, and im still yelling at jrich to make some shots

arkknight1988 · Post #870 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:23 am

please be patient d12 we can bring monta or jsmoove to help soon and anderson is a perfect fit.

SloNick Russia · Post #871 » by **SloNick Russia** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:24 am

Im still pissed that Otis decided to go with that "market value" approach again - Ryno likes it here, he has developed into a starting PF here so we would get a hometeam discount instead of matching the best offer from another team. The same mistake we made with JJ few years back. :evil:

Currectly he is our best asset besides Dwight.

SloNick Russia · Post #872 » by **SloNick Russia** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:29 am

please be patient d12 we can bring monta or jsmoove to help soon and anderson is a perfect fit.

We are a James Harden + decent PG away from contending. Runo is about as good of a PF you can put next to Dwight.

ADRajX · Post #873 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:37 am

Okay, so far I counted 4 good passes made by Nelson that people didn't convert in the 1st quarter ... so I wasn't imagining it... I'm going to stop there with the game... watch SportsCenter.

magicman123 · Post #874 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:43 am

DJRajX wrote:Okay, so far I counted 4 good passes made by Nelson that people didn't convert in the 1st quarter ... so I wasn't imagining it... I'm going to stop there with the game... watch SportsCenter.

were those 4 passes mostly three point attempts?

ADRajX · Post #875 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:54 am

magicman123 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Okay, so far I counted 4 good passes made by Nelson that people didn't convert in the 1st quarter ... so I wasn't imagining it... I'm going to stop there with the game... watch SportsCenter.

were those 4 passes mostly three point attempts?

yep... and they were open looks... nelson drove, collapsed the d, and kicked out some good passes... nelson played well, came alive in the 4th quarter... made some good steals... he also made some bad mistakes as well... but all in all, i was happy with his play today and the last game... sucks he didn't get any assists... but others picked up the slack in that category (Redick, etc...)

oh also another reason i had to stop watching... duhon came into the game :evil:

... i couldn't sit through his bullcrap again

magicman123 · Post #876 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:02 am

DJRajX wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Okay, so far I counted 4 good passes made by Nelson that people didn't convert in the 1st quarter ... so I wasn't imagining it... I'm going to stop there with the game... watch SportsCenter.

were those 4 passes mostly three point attempts?

yep... and they were open looks... nelson drove, collapsed the d, and kicked out some good passes... nelson played well, came alive in the 4th quarter... made some good steals... he also made some bad mistakes as well... but all in all, i was happy with his play today and the last game... sucks he didn't get any assists... but others picked up the slack in that category (Redick, etc...)

oh also another reason i had to stop watching... duhon came into the game ... i couldn't sit through his bullcrap again

yea that's why jameer isn't an elite point guard, he collapses the D and gets players good looks from three, but jameer has a problem with towards the basket passing, the alley opps, the passes for layups, the passes for an easy 10ft shot, the cutting players, and in transition..he makes some of those plays but not enough to take him to the next level, he doesnt find people in a real easy spot to score besides jumpshots, most of his assist are coming from three's or long jumpers..he doesn't have that vision towards the basket, with him its see the player pass the ball, not many anticipation passes with him

thats all good, we know jameer, but if he can keep doing that consistently and shoot the ball better, we might be alright, he needs to stay aggressive with the ball, he can really help going forward

ADRajX · Post #877 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:07 am

magicman123 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
were those 4 passes mostly three point attempts?

yep... and they were open looks... nelson drove, collapsed the d, and kicked out some good passes... nelson played well, came alive in the 4th quarter... made some good steals... he also made some bad mistakes as well... but all in all, i was happy with his play today and the last game... sucks he didn't get any assists... but others picked up the slack in that category (Redick, etc...)

oh also another reason i had to stop watching... duhon came into the game ... i couldn't sit through his bullcrap again

yea that's why jameer isn't an elite point guard, he collapses the D and gets players good looks from three, but jameer has a problem with towards the basket passing, the alley opps, the passes for layups, the passes for an easy 10ft shot, the cutting players, and in transition..he makes some of those plays but not enough to take him to the next level, most of his assist are coming from three's or long jumpers..he doesnt have that vision towards the basket, with him its see the player, pass to player, not many anticipation passes with him

thats all good, we know how jameer is, but if he can keep doing that consistently and shoot the ball better we would be alright, he needs to stay aggressive with the ball and picking his time to shoot

+1 exactly... he also can't entry pass... he needs to defer to Hedo or J-Rich/Redick

Jameer is an "okay" PG (when he's consistent)... I'd rather have an "okay" Jameer than a "putrid' one though... since this is who we have to work with... I just wish Jameer would run and get out in transition off of opponents' missed shots. He has mediocre court vision. But again, when he's aggressive and coming off of high-screens... and he doesn't go "hero ball" on us... he's a good PG. I criticize him so much because he plays the most important position imo (it's the QB of the NBA). When Jameer is playing bad, I get mad. But so far, I'm happy with how he has handled the game tonight and against the Clippers. Let's hope he stays CONSISTENT and within his limits (not overdo things).

Now as for Duhon... dear God, please pray that Ish gets court time in the near future to one-up this fool lol

arkknight1988 · Post #878 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:09 am

monta/anderson/dwight
each player would benefit from eachother. when is monta a free agent?

magicman123 · Post #879 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:15 am

we need the energizer bunny jameer, run, push the ball, get out in transition, attack the paint, set up the offense quicker, it might not help his assist totals, but his hockey assist would go off the charts with all the ball movement from being aggressive, tonight we played faster and the ball moved well..we need more of that

dudu sucks, hes slow, offers nothing except walking the ball up court, i would like to see ish, give him some minutes, hes got a lot of energy and he could really help the offense if he pushes the ball, not sure if hes any good but him being aggressive should outweigh anything dudu does

magicman123 · Post #880 » by **magicman123** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:16 am

arkknight1988 wrote:monta/anderson/dwight
each player would benefit from eachother. when is monta a free agent?

i believe after next season, thats why dwight should pick up his player option, sign dwight, monta, and josh smith :wink: