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Koby Clemens Signs With Toronto Blue Jays Organization 

Post#1 » by LittleOzzy » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:01 am

Koby Clemens, son of seven-time Cy Young Award Roger Clemens, has signed a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays organization.

"When it came down to it he signed with the Blue Jays," said Roger Clemens in an interview with FOX 26 Sports.

"There were a handful of teams looking at him, and we just had to be patient and see where the cards would fall.

"It'll be a good change for Koby. He'll just get out there and show them what he's got and see if he can continue to chase his dreams."

Koby Clemens was drafted by the Houston Astros in the eighth round of the 2005 Major League Baseball First-Year Players Draft.

Last season at the Astros' Triple-A affiliate in Oklahoma City Koby Clemens hit .234 with 16 home runs and 55 RBIs.

The Astros chose not to re-sign him after he became a free agent following the 2011 season.

"With how long it took, with all the free agents that were still out there and the waiting game, it was all new to me," said Koby Clemens. "So I'm just relieved and excited that one of the few teams that was interested in me giving me a great opportunity and I'm looking forward to getting out there and showing the Toronto Blue Jays organization what I can do."

Clemens has been in the Astros organization since 2005.

His father has played for both the Blue Jays and the Astros.

"It's going to be a new experience because I've known only the Astros organization my whole minor league professional career," Koby Clemens said.

"Like you said a little bit of nervousness, but more excitement more than anything, just because it's going to be a little new and different, but I'm excited and I feel ready."

Koby Clemens has played third base, catcher, left field and first base in the Astros organization.


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Post#2 » by Mattd97 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:41 am

maybe we can revive his career just like we did his fathers - with steroids
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Post#3 » by Al_Oliver » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:51 am

Mattd97 wrote:maybe we can revive his career just like we did his fathers - with steroids


he won the Cy, did he not?
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Post#4 » by Myth111 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:06 am

Twice. Triple Crown both years as well.
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Post#5 » by FreeAgent » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:39 am

Myth111 wrote:Twice. Triple Crown both years as well.


And attendance stayed pretty much the same...
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Post#6 » by Ramako » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:50 am

FreeAgent wrote:
Myth111 wrote:Twice. Triple Crown both years as well.


And attendance stayed pretty much the same...


Why wouldn't it have? It's not like we have any chance of making the playoffs those years.
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Post#7 » by FreeAgent » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:50 am

Ramako wrote:
FreeAgent wrote:
Myth111 wrote:Twice. Triple Crown both years as well.


And attendance stayed pretty much the same...


Why wouldn't it have? It's not like we have any chance of making the playoffs those years.


But stars are guaranteed to increase attendance...
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Post#8 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:01 pm

FreeAgent wrote:But stars are guaranteed to increase attendance...


Getting a star at a huge position of need without having to give up any prospects, allowing you to trade those prospects or develop them to get better players around the star, and then making the playoffs, does increase attendance. Basically, making the team better will improve attendance. Turns out that "stars" are usually really good baseball players, and really good baseball players will make the team better.
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Post#9 » by FreeAgent » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:43 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
FreeAgent wrote:But stars are guaranteed to increase attendance...


Getting a star at a huge position of need without having to give up any prospects, allowing you to trade those prospects or develop them to get better players around the star, and then making the playoffs, does increase attendance. Basically, making the team better will improve attendance. Turns out that "stars" are usually really good baseball players, and really good baseball players will make the team better.


Just like in '98 when we had Clemens leading us to 88 wins when we were in it until September and finished 2nd in the WC Race behind Boston (4 games back) and attendance went up...

Oh wait, no it didn't.
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Post#10 » by LBJSeizedMyID » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:14 pm

No risk signing. Has shown big time power in the past, and can draw walks, has deceptive speed. Really he's an Adam Loewen clone.
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Post#11 » by SharoneWright » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:51 pm

Someone to help carry the bags and load the bus.
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Post#12 » by satyr9 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:46 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Someone to help carry the bags and load the bus.


Yeah, if you can't hack it as even a hanger-on prospect in the Astros organization, you're only value is that now there's a spot that doesn't need to be filled and if you'll carry a prized arms bags, then that's a bonus.

On a sidenote, how **** godawful terrible is this return for a guy with consecutive CYs and like 20WAR over the period: Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, David Wells?

That's **** horrifyingly bad. I know there were weird circumstances, but even if you accept the idea Wells would be happy leaving NY and would continue to pitch at the same level, the Yanks literally got twice the production out of one spot and all it cost was Bush and Lloyd? Freaking absolutely terrible deal.
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Post#13 » by Al_Oliver » Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:34 pm

satyr9 wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:Someone to help carry the bags and load the bus.


Yeah, if you can't hack it as even a hanger-on prospect in the Astros organization, you're only value is that now there's a spot that doesn't need to be filled and if you'll carry a prized arms bags, then that's a bonus.

On a sidenote, how **** godawful terrible is this return for a guy with consecutive CYs and like 20WAR over the period: Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, David Wells?

That's **** horrifyingly bad. I know there were weird circumstances, but even if you accept the idea Wells would be happy leaving NY and would continue to pitch at the same level, the Yanks literally got twice the production out of one spot and all it cost was Bush and Lloyd? Freaking absolutely terrible deal.


fortunately it is 2012 and you are probably the only one who still cares...
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Post#14 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:03 pm

FreeAgent wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
FreeAgent wrote:But stars are guaranteed to increase attendance...


Getting a star at a huge position of need without having to give up any prospects, allowing you to trade those prospects or develop them to get better players around the star, and then making the playoffs, does increase attendance. Basically, making the team better will improve attendance. Turns out that "stars" are usually really good baseball players, and really good baseball players will make the team better.


Just like in '98 when we had Clemens leading us to 88 wins when we were in it until September and finished 2nd in the WC Race behind Boston (4 games back) and attendance went up...

Oh wait, no it didn't.


The Jays were hovering around .500 that year and were 4th in the AL East until the end of August. They weren't "in it until September". They got in it in September by going on a 11 game winning streak (including a 4 game sweep of the Red Sox) bumping them up into 3rd in the AL East, but then played .500 ball for the rest of September. All after 4 straight seasons below .500 including the strike shortened year that hurt attendance. They finished last in the AL East the year before. Good try though.
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Post#15 » by satyr9 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:14 pm

Al_Oliver wrote:
satyr9 wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:Someone to help carry the bags and load the bus.


Yeah, if you can't hack it as even a hanger-on prospect in the Astros organization, you're only value is that now there's a spot that doesn't need to be filled and if you'll carry a prized arms bags, then that's a bonus.

On a sidenote, how **** godawful terrible is this return for a guy with consecutive CYs and like 20WAR over the period: Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, David Wells?

That's **** horrifyingly bad. I know there were weird circumstances, but even if you accept the idea Wells would be happy leaving NY and would continue to pitch at the same level, the Yanks literally got twice the production out of one spot and all it cost was Bush and Lloyd? Freaking absolutely terrible deal.


fortunately it is 2012 and you are probably the only one who still cares...


I can tell you're my biggest fan already. Thanks Al!
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Post#16 » by Homer Jay » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:26 am

He obviously needs to get on the juice like dear old Dad. This guy is just AAA depth. Although with Gose, Sierra, and one of Thames/Snider it looks like the LV regular outfield is full already.
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Post#17 » by jrsmith » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:56 am

Just when I thought this team was cemented into 4th place in the division, AA goes and pulls a game changer. 8-) Finally.
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Post#18 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:06 am

Mattd97 wrote:maybe we can revive his career just like we did his fathers - with steroids


I would have no problems with that.

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