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Re: Game #27 Hawks at Magic .... 

Post#781 » by Jamaicankid21 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:59 am

SolidSnake008 wrote:Let's be honest here Atlanta had control of the game playing us the same way they've always played us....we have to do something else man....am i the only one that feels that way? I feel like we've been playing the same basketball for 3+ seasons....When is enough enough? When does Stan realize that we can actually push the ball on this team? When does he realize that maybe defense isn't our problem and it's the offense that's losing us games?


This team tries to push the ball but you need a PG to push it. Ive seen plenty of times that Dwight pass up passing the ball to the PG askin for it, and giving it to a shooting guard on the outlet and sprint down the court. I've seen plenty of times Stan on the sidelines doin the Q three guitar begging his PGs to run. This is what happens when you have two out of shape PGs playing. Its time for maybe Ish to play. Idk, something has to change though.
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Post#782 » by Javanar » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:00 am

and i dont understand how can orlando be a legit team with these guards. Even clippers back-up guards are better than what we have.
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Re: Game #27 Hawks at Magic .... 

Post#783 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:00 am

SolidSnake008 wrote:Let's be honest here Atlanta had control of the game playing us the same way they've always played us....we have to do something else man....am i the only one that feels that way? I feel like we've been playing the same basketball for 3+ seasons....When is enough enough? When does Stan realize that we can actually push the ball on this team? When does he realize that maybe defense isn't our problem and it's the offense that's losing us games?



I dont think its Stan saying lets slow things down. Jameer and Duhon dont have that aggresive push the ball mentality. Plus they are slow. They only push when the game is winding down. Cant do it for only the last 2 minutes and expect to win.
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Post#784 » by jamesgrenard » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:01 am

I seriously hate this season so far though. I'm worried we're going to be just mediocre..not on the brink of being good or bad. But right there in the middle. That's the worst.

I'd rather lose every single game instead. Then we would draft 1st again and have something to look forward to (this years draft is LOADED)

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Post#785 » by OrlandO » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:02 am

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SolidSnake008 wrote:Let's be honest here Atlanta had control of the game playing us the same way they've always played us....we have to do something else man....am i the only one that feels that way? I feel like we've been playing the same basketball for 3+ seasons....When is enough enough? When does Stan realize that we can actually push the ball on this team? When does he realize that maybe defense isn't our problem and it's the offense that's losing us games?


This team tries to push the ball but you need a PG to push it. Ive seen plenty of times that Dwight pass up passing the ball to the PG askin for it, and giving it to a shooting guard on the outlet and sprint down the court. I've seen plenty of times Stan on the sidelines doin the Q three guitar begging his PGs to run. This is what happens when you have two out of shape PGs playing. Its time for maybe Ish to play. Idk, something has to change though.

I've noticed this a lot recently, too. By the time the PG realizes he's not getting it, Dwight is already gone lol.
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Post#786 » by j_n » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:02 am

SolidSnake008 wrote:Let's be honest here Atlanta had control of the game playing us the same way they've always played us....we have to do something else man....am i the only one that feels that way? I feel like we've been playing the same basketball for 3+ seasons....When is enough enough? When does Stan realize that we can actually push the ball on this team? When does he realize that maybe defense isn't our problem and it's the offense that's losing us games?

+1,000,000

We kept the to under 90 in an overtime game and once again he will blame it on the defense.

And if he cares about defense so much why does he still play J rich? that switching b.s was the reason we had to make a comeback in the first place.
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Post#787 » by rcklsscognition » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:04 am

magicman123 wrote:stan is holding this team back


"Our execution was very good down the stretch. It was make or miss. Earlier in the overtime we had three turnovers. You can't do that." -SVG
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Post#788 » by Jamaicankid21 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:04 am

Its not Stan, when a team matches up well with you, they just do. We aren't running the same plays. We ran a lot of different plays. Jameer was a lot more aggressive but he shot 7-20. Hedo is always completely shutdown by Josh Smith. He was nowhere to be found the first 4 quarters. We had too many turnovers when we give the ball to Dwight. What needs to change also is the bench. We need more energy off the bench I will say that, but the starters absolutely have to play better. If they have our number we gotta avoid em or make a change in our roster. JJ Once again plays bad against Atlanta as well.
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Post#789 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:04 am

jamesgrenard wrote:Uh what? You're more confident NOW?

Last season we we're a top seed that just got beat. NOW we're lucky if we even make the playoffs if we continue to see what we did tonight.


The seeding this season, for the East at least, I don't think means anything.
I think the 1-4 seed will have a problem with the 5-8 seed this coming up playoffs, I seriously do.

And last year, ATL scared me, but this year, not so much. I either stopped caring about other teams or just have the utmost confidence in this one.
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Post#790 » by Orlando Prodigy » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:05 am

I hate that I'm saying this...but if Van Gundy is going to say the same B.S. after every game...that we're tired and whatnot (while refusing to put in fresh legs like Clark and Wafer), and blaming it on our defense, it's time for him to go. Promote Ewing. I usually like Van Gundy and think he's a top coach but his terrible decisions are costing us games. Wafer couldn't get playing time when we needed him? Ridiculous. When Clark and Wafer get minutes, they do great. Stan points out that they do great...then he benches them.
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Post#791 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 am

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OrlandO wrote:I'm really disappointed in Dwight. He should have easily scored 30 this game. He was pretty quiet until the end of the game. Turk didn't have any focus. Meh.



Bipolar much?

What are you talking about?



Not you, I mean our team is bipolar. We honestly look like a team of 13 year olds on puberty. We play with extreme mood swings. We play hard for a minute, next we are sulking and pouting. We run a great set and get a terrific score, the next we stand around and turn the ball over. We hustle and force a turnover, the next time Dwight watches the ball glance of his foot and slowly dribble out of bounds....
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Post#792 » by Jamaicankid21 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 am

Its time to just face it. Hedo is owned by Josh Smith and Jameer jump shot seems to be gone.
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Post#793 » by The Real Dalic » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 am

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magicman123 wrote:stan is holding this team back


"Our execution was very good down the stretch. It was make or miss. Earlier in the overtime we had three turnovers. You can't do that." -SVG

Well fatass, if you adjusted earlier we wouldn't need to make big shots in the end.... :roll: this loss was on Hedo and Stan no question about it... and, we will go NOWHERE with this fatass as a coach please fire this dumbass!!!
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Post#794 » by Javanar » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:08 am

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SolidSnake008 wrote:Let's be honest here Atlanta had control of the game playing us the same way they've always played us....we have to do something else man....am i the only one that feels that way? I feel like we've been playing the same basketball for 3+ seasons....When is enough enough? When does Stan realize that we can actually push the ball on this team? When does he realize that maybe defense isn't our problem and it's the offense that's losing us games?

+1,000,000

We kept the to under 90 in an overtime game and once again he will blame it on the defense.

And if he cares about defense so much why does he still play J rich? that switching b.s was the reason we had to make a comeback in the first place.


I dont know if he will blame defense or not, but Hawks made all their plans on stopping our shooters. That plan is successful for more than 6 games. And Zaza Pachulia nearly locked Dwight. Morever he moved Dwight out of painting in most of plays and Atlanta got easy points in the pianting.

That is why score is kept near 80's despite OT. Not defensive focus by Magic. This team scored over 100 when Spolestra did not care about perimeter defense, two days ago.
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Post#795 » by The Real Dalic » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:08 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:I hate that I'm saying this...but if Van Gundy is going to say the same B.S. after every game...that we're tired and whatnot (while refusing to put in fresh legs like Clark and Wafer), and blaming it on our defense, it's time for him to go. Promote Ewing. I usually like Van Gundy and think he's a top coach but his terrible decisions are costing us games. Wafer couldn't get playing time when we needed him? Ridiculous. When Clark and Wafer get minutes, they do great. Stan points out that they do great...then he benches them.

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Post#796 » by jamesgrenard » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:08 am

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jamesgrenard wrote:Uh what? You're more confident NOW?

Last season we we're a top seed that just got beat. NOW we're lucky if we even make the playoffs if we continue to see what we did tonight.


The seeding this season, for the East at least, I don't think means anything.
I think the 1-4 seed will have a problem with the 5-8 seed this coming up playoffs, I seriously do.

And last year, ATL scared me, but this year, not so much. I either stopped caring about other teams or just have the utmost confidence in this one.


To each their own man...I just can't agree on that one. I think Atlanta is a better team this year.

Adding guys like McGrady, Stackhouse...veteran presences. Teague has stepped his game up.

Everyone else is doing their normal stuff...plus they're playing good ball (18-9) without their starting center (Horford)

I could see them being contenders in the east as well.
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Post#797 » by rcklsscognition » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:I hate that I'm saying this...but if Van Gundy is going to say the same B.S. after every game...that we're tired and whatnot (while refusing to put in fresh legs like Clark and Wafer), and blaming it on our defense, it's time for him to go. Promote Ewing. I usually like Van Gundy and think he's a top coach but his terrible decisions are costing us games. Wafer couldn't get playing time when we needed him? Ridiculous. When Clark and Wafer get minutes, they do great. Stan points out that they do great...then he benches them.


I'm tired of the lame Orlando media asking Stan the same questions over and over again. We got a group of clowns writing for the Magic and they are scared of asking Stan serious questions or ever doubting him in press conferences.
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Post#798 » by SolidSnake008 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 am

i'm not blaming everything on Stan the players have a hand in it...BUT...Stan doesn't get off scott free...he has blood his hands too...Even if you're a member of SVGO...even you got to admit that there were some adjustments that should have been made....For me personally i think Q should not have played tonight.....Earl should have in his stead....Duhon should have played less minutes along with Big Baby
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Post#799 » by jamesgrenard » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:I hate that I'm saying this...but if Van Gundy is going to say the same B.S. after every game...that we're tired and whatnot (while refusing to put in fresh legs like Clark and Wafer), and blaming it on our defense, it's time for him to go. Promote Ewing. I usually like Van Gundy and think he's a top coach but his terrible decisions are costing us games. Wafer couldn't get playing time when we needed him? Ridiculous. When Clark and Wafer get minutes, they do great. Stan points out that they do great...then he benches them.


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Post#800 » by Javanar » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:10 am

jamesgrenard wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:I hate that I'm saying this...but if Van Gundy is going to say the same B.S. after every game...that we're tired and whatnot (while refusing to put in fresh legs like Clark and Wafer), and blaming it on our defense, it's time for him to go. Promote Ewing. I usually like Van Gundy and think he's a top coach but his terrible decisions are costing us games. Wafer couldn't get playing time when we needed him? Ridiculous. When Clark and Wafer get minutes, they do great. Stan points out that they do great...then he benches them.


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