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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#121 » by OrangeMan » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:41 pm

LBCsun49 wrote:Machado is a no go. He isnt even in the likes of the same competition as Teague, Kabongo, or Marshall and he is a 4 year veteran. If Marshall stays all 4 years he will avg 15 apg his senior year


One underdog draftee this year I believe will be Arnett Moultrie "PF" from Mississippi St. He is a beast on the boards and athletic.


Im on board with Moultrie too, IMO he's the closest we'll get to replacing STAT in our offense. Especially if we don't trade Nash and he decides to stay. He's got SF skills as a PF with explosiveness to slash and good mid-range shot! Sounds like a great pick'n roll partner for Nash!
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Post#122 » by Ryu » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:23 pm

Moultrie should be nice pick up. It`s not clear where he`ll be drafted, nbadraft.net has him at 6, draftexpress at 26. I would be more than pleased if we draft him at 20-25 range, if we obtain another pick, of course.
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Post#123 » by Cutter » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:42 am

ESPN shows Moultrie didn't play last year. What happened?

His stat line looks great!!
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Post#124 » by Ryu » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:07 am

He was sitting out a season because of the transfer from Texas-El Paso to Mississipi State.
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Post#125 » by Kerrsed » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:13 am

Moultrie looks good. He is either going to be a late 1st round pick, or an early 1st in 2013.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#126 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:17 am

Kerrsed wrote:Moultrie looks good. He is either going to be a late 1st round pick, or an early 1st in 2013.


I think someone takes a chance on him in the 16-19 range this year
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Post#127 » by Kerrsed » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:00 am

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Kerrsed wrote:Moultrie looks good. He is either going to be a late 1st round pick, or an early 1st in 2013.


I think someone takes a chance on him in the 16-19 range this year


Only if he declares.
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Post#128 » by SunZel » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:31 pm

I cast my votes for Rivers, Beal and Lamb in that order.

Rivers is a great competitor and would be a new look for the suns.
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Post#129 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:13 am

SunZel wrote:I cast my votes for Rivers, Beal and Lamb in that order.

Rivers is a great competitor and would be a new look for the suns.

I don't really want Rivers. He seems too cocky for me. I'd take Beal and Lamb before him.
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Post#130 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:54 am

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SunZel wrote:I cast my votes for Rivers, Beal and Lamb in that order.

Rivers is a great competitor and would be a new look for the suns.

I don't really want Rivers. He seems too cocky for me. I'd take Beal and Lamb before him.


Really?

The best players in the league are always cocky, because they know how good they are.

Kobe/LeBron/Wade/Jordan.

Its called swagg, and its something this team has lacked since the Barkley days.
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Post#131 » by LBCsun49 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:09 am

I would hope we can trade FRYE, LOPEZ, BROOKS for 2 first round late picks

doubt it but imagine

SUNS pick - Harrison Barnes
2 later - Moultrie and Marshall

future we have

Marshall, Barnes, Moultrie, Morris, Gortat.

all we need to do is sign E. Gordan and we are in a rebuild.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#132 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:46 am

Kerrsed wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
SunZel wrote:I cast my votes for Rivers, Beal and Lamb in that order.

Rivers is a great competitor and would be a new look for the suns.

I don't really want Rivers. He seems too cocky for me. I'd take Beal and Lamb before him.


Really?

The best players in the league are always cocky, because they know how good they are.

Kobe/LeBron/Wade/Jordan.

Its called swagg, and its something this team has lacked since the Barkley days.


There's a difference between drive and cockiness. I want a kid like DRose, humble but knows he has to make his team run. MKG has that, Davis has that. I don't see it in Rivers. MKG and Davis will do whatever for their team to win, I think Rivers is too concerned with his own image.

Jordan and Kobe both have that insane drive to keep working on their game, but I think the difference is that Jordan encouraged his teammates to join him. I think Kobe is first one in, last one out of the gym, but he doesn't care if someone is there with him. I have yet to see a guy who Kobe pushed to be better, like Jordan did with Pippen. Not that Pippen wasn't already a great player, but being with Jordan made him that much better.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#133 » by DRK » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:47 pm

Rivers.... Reminds me of Jerryd Bayless 2.0. No thanks.

I would take a chance on Quincy Miller. The guy is a elite scorer.
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Post#134 » by Kerrsed » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:27 am

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Post#135 » by Kerrsed » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:10 am

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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#136 » by thamadkant » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:33 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:I don't really want Rivers. He seems too cocky for me. I'd take Beal and Lamb before him.


Really?

The best players in the league are always cocky, because they know how good they are.

Kobe/LeBron/Wade/Jordan.

Its called swagg, and its something this team has lacked since the Barkley days.




Man, TALENT > ATTITUDE.

ATTITUDE is fine as long is its not destructive.... ATTITUDE can mean confidence... swagger as they say.


As Kerrsed said, a big chunk of the best players in the world have ATTITUDE...

not everyone can be TIM DUNCAN...

In Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Billiards, heck swimming.... some of the very best have some sort of ATTITUDE which gives them confidence.

Suns need TO STOP focusing on "GOOD" guys all the time, because they end up drafting hacks or picking up role players only..
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#137 » by RunDogGun » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:49 pm

Telfail had attitude and a bit of swagger. Lin is a good guy, who when interviewed seems very humble. On the court, he shows more confidence.

Suns just need to find great players, no matter where they are in the world. Our scouting team needs to improve greatly.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#138 » by thamadkant » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:21 am

Lin is very humble indeed, almost too humble which is even better for the Knicks....

But as pointed out, scouts need to look at talent first and worry about attitude second. Attitude is subjective and is highly variable depending on environment, maturity and age of the player.... which means it can change... likely to change anyways.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#139 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:33 am

1UPZ wrote:Lin is very humble indeed, almost too humble which is even better for the Knicks....

But as pointed out, scouts need to look at talent first and worry about attitude second. Attitude is subjective and is highly variable depending on environment, maturity and age of the player.... which means it can change... likely to change anyways.

I agree, it's just I'm not hoping for Rivers. I'd rather have Lamb or Beal, but if he's BPA of course I'd take him.
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Re: The draft prospect tracking thread. 

Post#140 » by Avp115 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:37 am

I feel like Terrence Jones is a left-handed and worse version of Carmelo Anthony. Sort of similar skillsets, and similar work ethic/lazy attitude.

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