Game Thread??? Heat v Wiz 2/10/12

Jay81 · Post #101 » by **Jay81** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:35 am

very depressed tonight because our rebuild is a disaster.

We have sucked for 3 straight years(3 high lottery picks) and all we have to show for it is Wall. Booker look decent but for as much as we have sucked the past 3 years...the lack of talent on this team through the draft is outrageous.

TED...CLEAN HOUSE YOU FOOL

Earth2Ted · Post #102 » by **Earth2Ted** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:43 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Who else got disgusted with the Wall/LBJ/Wade circle jerk after the game?

Well I'm sure it went something like:

Lebron: Hey John, I've been thinking about how much I'd like to play in DC for a while now. Do you think there's any chance you guys might trade for me?

Wall: Well Lebron, see we've got this kid Vesely and Ernie is really high on him, so even if we did trade for you, you'd probably have to come off the bench or something.

Lebron: aw shucks. I guess you're right. Well, try to put in a good word for me anyway.

BarnabyJones · Post #103 » by **BarnabyJones** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:45 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Who else got disgusted with the Wall/LBJ/Wade circle jerk after the game?

I missed that. . . . what happened?

dangermouse · Post #104 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:50 am

^ditto.

Was it just a "hey good game man, hang in there etc." or was it much worse?

fishercob · Post #105 » by **fishercob** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:54 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Who else got disgusted with the Wall/LBJ/Wade circle jerk after the game?

I had the opposite reaction. Nice to see Wall getting some dap from two of the very best players in our league. I appreciate the encouragement they're giving to him given what a tough go he's had here.

FAH1223 · Post #106 » by **FAH1223** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:00 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Who else got disgusted with the Wall/LBJ/Wade circle jerk after the game?

Not at all... Unless they're telling him "hey bro, this team is some shid, sign here when your deal expires in 2 years"

closg00 · Post #107 » by **closg00** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:12 am

FAH1223 wrote:
no D in Hibachi wrote:Who else got disgusted with the Wall/LBJ/Wade circle jerk after the game?

Not at all... Unless they're telling him "hey bro, this team is some shid, sign here when your deal expires in 2 years"

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing to the effect of "Just hang-on bro, bounce when you contract is up"

7-Day Dray · Post #108 » by **7-Day Dray** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:26 am

hands11 wrote:Im pretty much ready to see Nick in another uni.

Really hating his game at this point. His dribbling is terrible. It stops of offense. What happen to the catch and shoot Flip tough him. This is how he was years 1-3

Nick gone
Mason gone

Bring in some new guards.

Agreed. Nick has really disappointed me this year. I expected him to be much more of an off-the-ball threat than he has been this year. The thing is, he's capable of being a threat in that area, but he doesn't run off screens very fast like guys like Korver and Ray Allen. He's always jogging off screens, which makes him much easier to guard. Basically everything he does is 1-on-1, and I'm really not a fan of 1-on-1 players that can't get to the rim. I really glad we didn't extend him long-term.

7-Day Dray · Post #109 » by **7-Day Dray** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:28 am

hands11 wrote:
nate33 wrote:Overall, I'm not minding the way the Wizards are playing tonight. They're being blown out by 20 but I honestly don't think the Wizards are playing embarrassingly bad basketball. Miami is just really good.

Wall, Booker and McGee played well. They just need a couple players who are shooters who can hit from outside.

They need to make a move soon. This roster is getting stale

Nick needs to go. Same with Mason.

Clearly for the future, they don't need Dray. So what can you get for Dray and Nick besides a hamburger and fries. I can see 3 new players on the team before the year ends.

Hoepfully we don't go after better options this year, because it'll hurt our chances at Anthony Davis. :wink:

Post #110 » by **montestewart** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:44 am

Wizards were at the line, and LeBJ was at the opposite corner (across from Heat bench) jawing with some fans walking off the floor. I thought they were gushing Heat fans, but it went on a bit too long and he looked a little put off. Cracked me up. You're the greatest on the planet, and you get caught up in what some drunken fan has to say.

Three Heat fans behind me seemed to think everyone in the arena was gathered together to see Lebron slam dunks and nothing else. That's about all they talked about, louder and louder as they drank. When the slam seemed imminent, they go, "Here it comes...here it comes...OHHHHHHHH!" Get a room.

Dexter Pittman looks almost buff now. If the Heat made him do that, then why can't...oh, forget it.

Has someone compiled a highlight reel of Javale's colossal slam dunk misses?

I liked Wall's game tonight. Booker's too.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TGW wrote:
7-Day Dray wrote:I'm really don't like watching Mack on the floor. He plays nervous out there, kind of like Mustafa Shakur. From everything I heard at Butler, he seemed lack a fearless competitor with sky-high confidence, but it seems like the exact opposite when I see him play.

Yea I miss Shaun Livingston. He really plays with heart and balls.

Context really matters.

I wouldn't touch that with a ten inch pole.

JonathanJoseph · Post #111 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:23 am

Ahhhh. Finally a game from John Wall I liked!

For the most part, he played unselfishly, set up ball screens nicely and played under control. There were still lapses and plenty of areas for improvement, but nonetheless a start. Again, I think the stats "lie" given that a 7 turnover game was his most "under control" yet. And to the point others were making when he was having 6-7 assist games, tonight he would have had 15 assists if teammates had shot the ball better.

Stats "lie" part deaux: McGee was awful again despite big numbers.

I can't believe how far Vesely is from contributing at all. I assumed he'd be at least a useful energy player in his first year.

All other players look exactly like they do every other game. More Booker and Seraphin please.

Illuminaire · Post #112 » by **Illuminaire** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:56 am

I was particularly pleased with one play in the first half where Vesely set an excellent high screen. Wall curled around it nicely, then hit Maurice Evans with a beautiful cross-court pass.

Of course, Evans missed the open three, but I hope it's a sign of things to come.

kobra860 · Post #113 » by **kobra860** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:28 am

Vesely has been a major disappointment. I can't believe that he came out of the top 10 in the first round.

MD's Finest · Post #114 » by **MD's Finest** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:16 pm

kobra860 wrote:Vesely has been a major disappointment. I can't believe that he came out of the top 10 in the first round.

I was against the Veseley pick when we made and still wish we had taken Leonard there but fact is from day 1 everyone new he was going to be a project and he got 0 offseason time, I am pretty sure he was only there for half of the short training camp and had an injury early on. Personally I think some of his just general basketball instincts and energy plays are things I didnt expect, he is definitely in the deep end right now and at best is up and down but the guy just needs more time before he can be written off.

Post #115 » by **nate33** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:04 pm

FWIW, I thought McGee did a much better job setting screens tonight. He wasn't Charles Oakley or anything, but at least he stuck around long enough to make contact with the player.

no D in Hibachi · Post #116 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:22 pm

McGee always seems to have good games against Miami, just like he always seems to have terrible games against the Magic.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #117 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:08 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:McGee always seems to have good games against Miami, just like he always seems to have terrible games against the Magic.

It is just bad coaching to not know Javale cannot hang with Howard at all. I would love to see Seraphin and McGee together at times.

I would also like to see Booker effectively play SF at times.

mhd · Post #118 » by **mhd** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:28 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
no D in Hibachi wrote:McGee always seems to have good games against Miami, just like he always seems to have terrible games against the Magic.

It is just bad coaching to not know Javale cannot hang with Howard at all. I would love to see Seraphin and McGee together at times.

I would also like to see Booker effectively play SF at times.

CCJ, maybe Javale needs to learn that if he wants a longterm deal, he needs to get tougher? Javale has the same body type as Tyson Chandler, but Tyson has ALWAYS been a man on the court. Javale acts like a girl so much that it infuriates me. Simply playing horrifically against the best in the game seems to me like McGee shouldn't be paid nearly what he'll ask for in the off-season.

hands11 · Post #119 » by **hands11** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:37 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:Ahhhh. Finally a game from John Wall I liked!

For the most part, he played unselfishly, set up ball screens nicely and played under control. There were still lapses and plenty of areas for improvement, but nonetheless a start. Again, I think the stats "lie" given that a 7 turnover game was his most "under control" yet. And to the point others were making when he was having 6-7 assist games, tonight he would have had 15 assists if teammates had shot the ball better.

Stats "lie" part deaux: McGee was awful again despite big numbers.

I can't believe how far Vesely is from contributing at all. I assumed he'd be at least a useful energy player in his first year.

All other players look exactly like they do every other game. More Booker and Seraphin please.

Really ? I think Ves is doing a lot more than most thought he would this year. Most thought he would be burred on the bench and get push around when he was out there. Actually he is a useful energy guy. Are you saying he isn't ?

As for more Booker and KS. I agree.

hands11 · Post #120 » by **hands11** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:40 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
no D in Hibachi wrote:McGee always seems to have good games against Miami, just like he always seems to have terrible games against the Magic.

It is just bad coaching to not know Javale cannot hang with Howard at all. I would love to see Seraphin and McGee together at times.

I would also like to see Booker effectively play SF at times.

Yes. That would be nice wouldnt it.

How about all 3. Booker, KS, and McGee with Wall and your choice of Nick, Mo or Crawford.