Wolves "Dangling" Williams in Possible P. Gasol Trade?

Post #1 » by **Klomp** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 am

In other news involving NBA big men, a source said Wednesday that Minnesota continues to pursue a possible trade for Lakers forward Pau Gasol, dangling rookie Derrick Williams, who is from the Los Angeles area, and draft choices. The only players considered untouchable by the Timberwolves, who are seeking to add a veteran by the trade deadline, are Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio. The Timberwolves believe it could be enticing for Gasol to play on the same team as fellow Spaniard Rubio.

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Piecake · Post #2 » by **Piecake** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:35 am

If true, thats just stupid. If we are going to trade Williams, I want to trade him for a wing player. That is where we absolutely suck balls. Its stupid to make 1 of our 3 good players a back up

Post #3 » by **Klomp** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:37 am

I wonder if they'll throw in Walton to help our young players learn the triangle?

jade_hippo · Post #4 » by **jade_hippo** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:49 am

I call BS on this. The filler needed to get him here would gut out team, and with Pek starting to emerge, Pie is right, the next piece we need to go after needs to be a wing. We haven't always gone with logical moves in the past, but with the Wolves competitive on most nights, just about anyone who can play the 2/3 and we are golden.

Post #5 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:50 am

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Re: Pau rumors: Wolves have long been interested, but feeling I get from talking to people is a big deal at deadline is unlikely.

Kahn mentioned this already (no big deals at deadline) but a deal like this could be put on ice. My only concern is that we'll move Williams for a big like Gasol when clearly we should be dangling him for a SG.

moss_is_1 · Post #6 » by **moss_is_1** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:03 am

I'd much rather get a wing as everyone else is saying. Gasol is a little old, plus he'd take time from Love/Pek who have been 2 of the 3 best players this year.

AQuintus · Post #7 » by **AQuintus** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:10 am

The only way that this rumor would make any sense at all is if the reporter got the names wrong and it's actually Marc that we're interested in.

pumunga · Post #8 » by **pumunga** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:18 am

i would love to do it, add in a 3rd team to get your precious sg.

jpatrick · Post #9 » by **jpatrick** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:21 am

I have no problems moving Williams for a solid piece but Gasol will be 32 this summer. To me this would be a Kahn desperation move. I wonder if his job is in jeopardy unlesss we make the playoffs.

Also like others have said, we still wouldnt be an upper echelon team because are wings would be so bad and we really wohldnt have any other assets to move or any salary cap flexibility because of Gasol's huge contract. This doesnt pass the smell test.

Wolves21 · Post #10 » by **Wolves21** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:30 am

Hmm don't know about a Williams for Gasol trade.In the short term a team of Love/Gasol/Rubio would be a playoff team and possible contender.But on the other hand Pek has shown over the last few weeks that he can be a legit starting center in the league and DW hasn't really been give his time to shine yet,dude still could be a all-star type player.

Not against have Pau Gasol on the team sense he would give us a veteran that still has gas left in the tank and is a 2X World Champion.But I would try and bait the Lakers into a possible deal around Beasley first,which is 99% chance of the Lakers not taking the bait.

AQuintus · Post #11 » by **AQuintus** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:35 am

Wolves21 wrote:Hmm don't know about a Williams for Gasol trade.In the short term a team of Love/Gasol/Rubio would be a playoff team and possible contender.

Unless we can move Pek for a big upgrade on the wings, I'm not convinced that that lineup is even better than what we have now.

dunkonu21 · Post #12 » by **dunkonu21** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:46 am

Minnesota Timberwolves
Incoming Players: Pau Gasol and J.J. Redick
Outgoing Players: Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic, Brad Miller, Derrick Williams, Nikola Pekovic and Mem 2013 1st (Mem)
Los Angeles Lakers
Incoming Players: Dwight Howard, Michael Beasley, Darko Milicic, Hedo Turkoglu.
Outgoing Players: Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, 2012 1sts (Dal, Lal)
Orlando Magic
Incoming Players: Andrew Bynum, Nikola Pekovic, Derrick Williams, Brad Miller 2012 1sts (Lal, Dal) and 2013 1st (Mem)
Outgoing Players Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu, and J.J. Redick
Trade ID #6026542

Lakers:
Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Kapono
Beasley/Meta
Hedo/Murphy
Dwight/Darko

TWolves:
Rubio/Ridnour/Barea
Reddick/Lee
Webster/Wesley
Love/Tolliver
Gasol/Randolph

Orlando:
Nelson/Duhon
JRich/QRich
RAnderson/DWill
Pekovic/DWill
Bynum/Glen Baby

HEKTOR · Post #13 » by **HEKTOR** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:52 am

Gasol + Goudelock + Morris for D.Williams + Pekovic + Ridnour + B.Miller.

T-Wolves:
PG: RUBIO / Goudelock / Morris
SG: JOHNSON / Barea / Ellington
SF: BEASLEY / Webster
PF: LOVE / Tolliver / Randolph
C: GASOL / Darko

Lakers:
PG: RIDNOUR / Blake / Fisher
SG: KOBE / Barnes / Kapono
SF: WORLD-PEACE / Ebanks
PF: WILLIAMS / McRoberts / Murphy
C: BYNUM / Pekovic / Miller

Or:

Gasol + Goudelock + Morris for D.Williams + Milicic + Ridnour + B.Miller + future 1st.

T-Wolves:
PG: RUBIO / Goudelock / Morris
SG: JOHNSON / Barea / Ellington
SF: BEASLEY / Webster
PF: LOVE / Tolliver / Randolph
C: GASOL / Pekovic

Lakers:
PG: RIDNOUR / Blake / Fisher
SG: KOBE / Barnes / Kapono
SF: WORLD-PEACE / Ebanks
PF: WILLIAMS / McRoberts / Murphy
C: BYNUM / Milicic / Miller

weasel · Post #14 » by **weasel** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:52 am

I'm against both the original trade and dunkonu's trade. Beas, Wiliams, Pek, and a 1st for Gasol and Redick? We'd be a perenial 7th seed at best.

dunkonu21 · Post #15 » by **dunkonu21** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:55 am

We might be an 8th seed with this team...I'm pretty sure that makes us better getting rid of a couple chuckers, adding a top 10 center and filling our biggest hole...

Beas · Post #16 » by **Beas** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:56 am

I want none of a Pau trade at all. If we're trading Williams it only makes sense we get a SG, Pekovic has proven he can be a legit starting center already.

ctmagic · Post #17 » by **ctmagic** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:00 am

pumunga wrote:i would love to do it, add in a 3rd team to get your precious sg.

Pao makes us better, can't question that. I'm with ya, figure out a way to get a nice outside shooter as well and we are on to something

ctmagic · Post #18 » by **ctmagic** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:00 am

pumunga wrote:i would love to do it, add in a 3rd team to get your precious sg.

Pao makes us better, can't question that. I'm with ya, figure out a way to get a nice outside shooter as well and we are on to something

HEKTOR · Post #19 » by **HEKTOR** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:05 am

Gasol + Goudelock + Morris for D.Williams + Milicic + Ridnour + B.Miller + future 1st.

T-Wolves:
PG: RUBIO / Goudelock / Morris
SG: JOHNSON / Barea / Ellington
SF: BEASLEY / Webster
PF: LOVE / Tolliver / Randolph
C: GASOL / Pekovic

Lakers:
PG: RIDNOUR / Blake / Fisher
SG: KOBE / Barnes / Kapono
SF: WORLD-PEACE / Ebanks
PF: WILLIAMS / McRoberts / Murphy
C: BYNUM / Milicic / Miller

Afterall, Darko has played in the triangle before.

pumunga · Post #20 » by **pumunga** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:08 am

ctmagic wrote:
pumunga wrote:i would love to do it, add in a 3rd team to get your precious sg.

Pao makes us better, can't question that. I'm with ya, figure out a way to get a nice outside shooter as well and we are on to something

off the dome

min in ; gasol, morrow
min out ; williams, luke, draft pick, webster/ellington/tolliver/randolph

la in ; luke, deron williams
la out ; gasol, barnes

nj in ; derrick williams, draft pick, barnes, webster/ellington/tolliver/randolph
nj out ; morrow, williams

mn- we get our sg and c presence(even tho pek coming along nicely), and add a vet
la- gets their pg
nj- doesnt get nothing when williams walks