Kings vs. Pistons

[KF10]

I never understand how much Piston fans like try to rub everyone's face that Monroe >> Cousins.

Every time when I see a thread about Cousins in the GB, there has to be a Piston fan trumpeting his horn about Monroe.

[AnDrOiDKing4]

I never understand how much Piston fans like try to rub everyone's face that Monroe >> Cousins.

Every time when I see a thread about Cousins in the GB, there has to be a Piston fan trumpeting his horn about Monroe.

They barely even bring up Cousins vs Monroe today in their thread after going about how much better Monroe is all year. Its kinda amusing, no mention of him on the general board either. Its ok, Cousins will continue to dominate him, and maybe get some wins when we get some actual players around him.

[Wolfay]

Who cares what they were in college? Adam Morrison was a prolific shooter in college. Many players were prolific shooters in college, and nothing in the NBA. The fact is, we needed someone like Knight to move the ball around. Hopefully IT can turn out to that someday, but Knight would have been a better fit and player for the Kings than Jimmer.

How is a chucker going to fit in?

[KF10]

They barely even bring up Cousins vs Monroe today in their thread after going about how much better Monroe is all year. Its kinda amusing, no mention of him on the general board either. Its ok, Cousins will continue to dominate him, and maybe get some wins when we get some actual players around him.

Well, that is what they get for talking too much trash on Cousins. Their silence is music to my ears

[AnDrOiDKing4]

They barely even bring up Cousins vs Monroe today in their thread after going about how much better Monroe is all year. Its kinda amusing, no mention of him on the general board either. Its ok, Cousins will continue to dominate him, and maybe get some wins when we get some actual players around him.

Well, that is what they get for talking too much trash on Cousins. Their silence is music to my ears

Felt like bumping some old threads about what the head to head match up would be like and how Cousins wouldn't even stand a chance. I won't though, I guess its considered trolling when you call out people after they fail so hard with their predictions.

[bjax24]

We won't know who the better pick was until it's a couple years down the line. Jimmer just needs to find his nitch. He's not being detrimental. His playmaking has been underrated. Just needs to shoot more and work on D. He's 2 months into his career.

[RIPskaterdude]

Who cares what they were in college? Adam Morrison was a prolific shooter in college. Many players were prolific shooters in college, and nothing in the NBA. The fact is, we needed someone like Knight to move the ball around. Hopefully IT can turn out to that someday, but Knight would have been a better fit and player for the Kings than Jimmer.

How is a chucker going to fit in?

He hasn't yet, which is why Jimmer isn't getting minutes.

[bjax24]

also lol @ the head to head win loss record after 3 games playing into the Monroe Cousins debate at all.

[bjax24]

Jimmer's shot selection is nowhere near as bad as some of the others on our team this year. If he's chucking what's Tyreke doing?

[dozencousins]

Listen for anyone pouting about us taking Jimmer vs. Knight seriously this is 1 issue you should not really badmouth Petrie or the Maloofs .

Though I 100% agree that Knight would have been the better player and the better pick in terms of talent . That said Jimmer was & is the better pick in terms of selling tickets , merchandise sales etc. had this been any other year than this season I would have been pissed off with taking Jimmer over Knight etc. but the bottom line is you as a business do whatever makes you money and if Jimmer creates more ticket sales etc. then I am all for it if getting a guy like Jimmer creates more ticket sales , merchandise sales , brings more fans in to our team , more notice to us then I am happy whatever it takes to save my Sacramento Kings staying in Sacramento is what I am for right now .

Let us keep our Kings in Sacramento and if we go for the better pr move vs. the better player then I would be pissed . Everyone needs to realize the getting Jimmer factor was a move to who has a better chance of selling more seats , more merchandise , more commercials and more appeal to our team . Plain and simple . By the way IMO Jimmer should in the long run be a shooting guard rather than a point guard as he is a pure shooter and not a true pure point guard .

[AnDrOiDKing4]

Dozen is kinda right, in the end neither Jimmer or Knight are going to be superstars or guys that lead your teams to the playoffs. I do think that the bigger battle in terms of fan interest/arena issue was a reason why we picked Jimmer and if it has anything at all to help the Kings stay, I will call him a good pick. BTW this IT guy is pretty damn good. We wouldn't even have him on our team if we had picked someone else in the first round. Knight > Jimmer any day of the week (as of now) But we all knew that, there were bigger issues we had to worry about at the time.

[dozencousins]

Dozen is kinda right, in the end neither Jimmer or Knight are going to be superstars or guys that lead your teams to the playoffs. I do think that the bigger battle in terms of fan interest/arena issue was a reason why we picked Jimmer and if it has anything at all to help the Kings stay, I will call him a good pick. BTW this IT guy is pretty damn good. We wouldn't even have him on our team if we had picked someone else in the first round. Knight > Jimmer any day of the week (as of now) But we all knew that, there were bigger issues we had to worry about at the time.

Good point about Isiah alot of people fail to realize had we taken Knight you could kiss off any chance of drafting I.Thomas who very well may end up being as good and having as good of a career as Knight and possibly K.Walker for that matter we ended up with both I.Thomas & Jimmer . Those 2 could possibly be our starting back court 1 day who knows ?

[SacKingZZZ]

Ah, the 'ol mistake of counting out a chicken before it hatches. Jimmer is in a different position than Knight with far less opportunity, very hard to compete in that sense. You know what this team would look like with Knight instead of Jimmer? Well, in the immediate sense it would be Smart playing Thomas over Knight instead of Jimmer, hahaha.

[pillwenney]

Who cares what they were in college? Adam Morrison was a prolific shooter in college. Many players were prolific shooters in college, and nothing in the NBA. The fact is, we needed someone like Knight to move the ball around. Hopefully IT can turn out to that someday, but Knight would have been a better fit and player for the Kings than Jimmer.

How is a chucker going to fit in?

The chucker that had 10 assists and 0 TOs.

Seriously guys this is ridiculous. It's not just tonight. It's been true since draft day. Knight will be the better player and much more likely to be a teams PG of the future because he can do a lot more on the court. Neither is going to be a superstar, but Knight could have been our PG of the future. Jimmer's future is as a nice 6th man at best.

This game really pissed me off. Just a really weak effort on the wings defensively and, while I'm not usually one to jump on the coach for literally every fault with the team like some on this board, putting Isaiah on Stuckey over and over an undersized players like Salmons and Tyreke on Prince is just dumb. We went away from what was working in the final minutes (Cuz) and were completely unable to stop them. We set the pace with an up and down game and then didn't adjust when they started doing it too.

[RIPskaterdude]

The sad thing is, other than the last 5-6 minutes of the 4th, we played a really really good game. Low turnovers, high FG%, good assist total....all of it ruined because we stopped going to Cousins and for some reason, put Jimmer out there for 3/4 of the 4th for "defensive reasons"

[JustinSane]

Pistons fan here. Cousins is really, really good. I'm pretty sure if both Cousins and Monroe were available, Dumars would have taken Cousins. I think our getting Monroe worked out for the best, because last year our team was totally dysfunctional and Monroe's greater maturity level let him navigate that undamaged - not so sure Cousins could have - but Cousins is clearly a fantastic talent. As long as you've got him, you've got a promising team.

Thanks for Knight though .

[LeBron's Time]

Listen for anyone pouting about us taking Jimmer vs. Knight seriously this is 1 issue you should not really badmouth Petrie or the Maloofs .

Though I 100% agree that Knight would have been the better player and the better pick in terms of talent . That said Jimmer was & is the better pick in terms of selling tickets , merchandise sales etc. had this been any other year than this season I would have been pissed off with taking Jimmer over Knight etc. but the bottom line is you as a business do whatever makes you money and if Jimmer creates more ticket sales etc. then I am all for it if getting a guy like Jimmer creates more ticket sales , merchandise sales , brings more fans in to our team , more notice to us then I am happy whatever it takes to save my Sacramento Kings staying in Sacramento is what I am for right now .

Let us keep our Kings in Sacramento and if we go for the better pr move vs. the better player then I would be pissed . Everyone needs to realize the getting Jimmer factor was a move to who has a better chance of selling more seats , more merchandise , more commercials and more appeal to our team . Plain and simple . By the way IMO Jimmer should in the long run be a shooting guard rather than a point guard as he is a pure shooter and not a true pure point guard .

this team needs a better player, kings fans will love better player for sure, in a long run. jimmer selling tickets is overated. jimmer's basketball rock star status is over, its only last the first month or 2. I WANT A BETTER PLAYER and thats what this team needs.

[LeBron's Time]

I never understand how much Piston fans like try to rub everyone's face that Monroe >> Cousins.

Every time when I see a thread about Cousins in the GB, there has to be a Piston fan trumpeting his horn about Monroe.

youre right man

wall, turner, favors, johnson and the warriors pick, also pick ahead of monroe. but i never see a thread coming from a pistons fans about monroe > favors, or monroe > turner. its always monroe > cousins bla bla bla debate

[dozencousins]

Listen for anyone pouting about us taking Jimmer vs. Knight seriously this is 1 issue you should not really badmouth Petrie or the Maloofs .

Though I 100% agree that Knight would have been the better player and the better pick in terms of talent . That said Jimmer was & is the better pick in terms of selling tickets , merchandise sales etc. had this been any other year than this season I would have been pissed off with taking Jimmer over Knight etc. but the bottom line is you as a business do whatever makes you money and if Jimmer creates more ticket sales etc. then I am all for it if getting a guy like Jimmer creates more ticket sales , merchandise sales , brings more fans in to our team , more notice to us then I am happy whatever it takes to save my Sacramento Kings staying in Sacramento is what I am for right now .

Let us keep our Kings in Sacramento and if we go for the better pr move vs. the better player then I would be pissed . Everyone needs to realize the getting Jimmer factor was a move to who has a better chance of selling more seats , more merchandise , more commercials and more appeal to our team . Plain and simple . By the way IMO Jimmer should in the long run be a shooting guard rather than a point guard as he is a pure shooter and not a true pure point guard .

this team needs a better player, kings fans will love better player for sure, in a long run. jimmer selling tickets is overated. jimmer's basketball rock star status is over, its only last the first month or 2. I WANT A BETTER PLAYER and thats what this team needs.

Your right that Kings fans in Sacramento would fall in love with any great pick however getting Jimmer was to get agood player while selling merchandise , someone with commercial appeal , positive attitute etc. etc. Getting Jimmer wasnt just about appeasing fans in Sacramento it was about attracting fans from other cities , countries etc. to gain fan fare merchandise sales etc. In a time when this City is on its last legs to save this team to stay .

Unlike you I see this as a brilliant move though I agree Knight is better right now . You are not seeing this from a business standpoint of the here & the now . We dont need to save this team from moving in 5-10 years were taking the better player makes most sense . We are talking about taking a player at a time were you had less than a year to save this franchise staying in this city as good a Knight is he would not put more fans in the seats than Jimmer , he would not sell more mernchandise in this city let alone through out the country & possibly globally than Jimmer & he certainly doesnt have more commercial appeal than Jimmer .

As I said before had this been any other year were our franchise was not on its last legs in doing whatever it takes to save this team in this city I would be pissed at the pick & agree with you . This is not that situation .