Was giving up Brewer a mistake?

teven_1 · Post #1 » by **teven_1** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:58 pm

title says it all. He's a good defender and while less offensively gifted and Wes Johnson, would probably be dropping more points.

His flaws were he was really, really skinny and couldn't handle the ball (although I think he was improving in that respect).

I bring this up because with Pek playing amazing, we really need a solid wing.
Thoughts?

(and another thing: S-Jax to the Wolves, Yay or Nay?)

B Calrissian · Post #2 » by **B Calrissian** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:17 pm

I liked Brewer a lot but trading him was worth it to see what AR could do. I would gladly have Brewer back on the team. Lots will disagree with that tho.

No way to PartyJax. The Buck I want is Jennings.

andyhop · Post #3 » by **andyhop** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:28 pm

When Brewer played for us he was a fairly terrible player so giving him up was an easy decision.He seems to be off to a decent start with Denver but I refuse to believe that someone shooting FT's at 65% for the season and 70% for his career is really a 40+% 3 pt shooter.

Foye · Post #4 » by **Foye** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:29 pm

andyhop wrote:When Brewer played for us he was a fairly terrible player so giving him up was an easy decision.He seems to be off to a decent start with Denver but I refuse to believe that someone shooting FT's at 65% for the season and 70% for his career is really a 40+% 3 pt shooter.

He wasn't terrible. He was asked to be our 3rd best player that's why he looked terrible. I still like him.

teven_1 · Post #5 » by **teven_1** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:45 pm

Foye wrote:
andyhop wrote:When Brewer played for us he was a fairly terrible player so giving him up was an easy decision.He seems to be off to a decent start with Denver but I refuse to believe that someone shooting FT's at 65% for the season and 70% for his career is really a 40+% 3 pt shooter.

He wasn't terrible. He was asked to be our 3rd best player that's why he looked terrible. I still like him.

Yeah Brewer as a Tweener, starting at one of the wing spots would (in my mind) average at least 8-10 ppg, and play some solid D.

That's just me though.

Foye · Post #6 » by **Foye** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:52 pm

In retroperspective I would've rather kept Brewer and never acquired Randolph.

teven_1 · Post #7 » by **teven_1** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:59 pm

Biggest problem with AR is his strengths are in being free to roam the court rather than being confined to the paint, just doesn't fit our needs/ not good enough to justify his ideal play style

[RCG] · Post #8 » by **[RCG]** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:04 pm

Most people were ready for Brewer to go, he was pretty frustrating while he was here.

Post #9 » by **C.lupus** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:09 pm

Biggest problem with AR is he's not smart enough to learn how to play the game the right way.

I'm still OK with giving up Brewer. He'd be OK here still but I'd rather set my sights higher on the SG position.

And no to S-Jax and Jennings.

teven_1 · Post #10 » by **teven_1** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:55 pm

C.lupus wrote:Biggest problem with AR is he's not smart enough to learn how to play the game the right way.

I'm still OK with giving up Brewer. He'd be OK here still but I'd rather set my sights higher on the SG position.

And no to S-Jax and Jennings.

Agreed he wouldn't by any means be a savior but as has been mentioned a million times before (and at risk of having this thread topic locked/merged) the pickings seem slim.

But IMO comparing Brewer to our other options, I think he would be a slight upgrade over Wesley Johnson in terms of aggressiveness/scoring and a better defender than Ridnour.

I still think Ellington should be getting more minutes and waiting for Web to get back full health though.

change · Post #11 » by **change** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:07 pm

B Calrissian wrote:
The Buck I want is Jennings.

????

Peezo · Post #12 » by **Peezo** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:19 pm

I hear what you are saying about Brewer but I'd still rather have Wes over him. Wes has looked awful this season however there are moments like the third quarter against Orlando where I think he could actually be a good basketball player. There are more things that Brewer does well right now (namely defend and hustle) but Wes is both an okay defender and is not lazy. I think Wes has the potential to be a much more polished 3 than brewer, and it never could have happened with corey on the team. We also would have had to pay him.

I keep flip floppping on Steve Jack. I'm usually very anit-chucker but I think he is veteran enough to help our team. While he may be a chucker, we don't really have any of those on our team. He could competently play the two better than Luke.

B Calrissian · Post #13 » by **B Calrissian** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:37 pm

change wrote:
B Calrissian wrote:
The Buck I want is Jennings.

????

Having him as the designated shot creator, secondary ball handler, and PG starting at SG (but with defense) would mean less Beasley/more Williams and would make Barea trade bait. Basically putting Barea and Beasley's roles together to open up minutes for Williams and to improve our defense.
I think he could really flourish with a change of scenery and friends (from PartyJax to Love).

Foye · Post #14 » by **Foye** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:42 pm

Peezo wrote:We also would have had to pay him.

He's getting 6 mil for 2 years right now. That would've been very much affordable.

LordBaldric · Post #15 » by **LordBaldric** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:03 pm

That this is even a serious question tells you all you need to know about Wes Johnson.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #16 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:11 pm

yes I wish we still had him looking back, but we didnt know Wes would somehow get worse, Ridnour would be starting at SG, and Randolph would be collecting DNPs

Post #17 » by **Basti** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:22 pm

I wouldn't say that trading a player of the caliber of Corey Brewer is 'giving up' as he's a role player that can rather easily be replaced by another player.

With that being said, I've always been a fan of Corey's game. Yes, I'd still like to have him on the roster. Not that I think he'd have some great numbers but I could imagine him averaging 8-10 points on rather good percentages because I could see him getting many points in transition off good passes by Ricky. And he should get many open looks from the corner.

Piecake · Post #18 » by **Piecake** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:12 pm

Basti wrote:I wouldn't say that trading a player of the caliber of Corey Brewer is 'giving up' as he's a role player that can rather easily be replaced by another player.

With that being said, I've always been a fan of Corey's game. Yes, I'd still like to have him on the roster. Not that I think he'd have some great numbers but I could imagine him averaging 8-10 points on rather good percentages because I could see him getting many points in transition off good passes by Ricky. And he should get many open looks from the corner.

Yea, but if we get Brewer back, we would have to deal with that Ice232 poster always talking about how Brewer is awesome, our other wings suck, that brewer should get more playing time, and that we should all wait on Brewer hand on foot because he is our god. No thank you to that!

Yes We Kahn · Post #19 » by **Yes We Kahn** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:16 pm

Piecake wrote:
Basti wrote:I wouldn't say that trading a player of the caliber of Corey Brewer is 'giving up' as he's a role player that can rather easily be replaced by another player.

With that being said, I've always been a fan of Corey's game. Yes, I'd still like to have him on the roster. Not that I think he'd have some great numbers but I could imagine him averaging 8-10 points on rather good percentages because I could see him getting many points in transition off good passes by Ricky. And he should get many open looks from the corner.

Yea, but if we get Brewer back, we would have to deal with that Ice232 poster always talking about how Brewer is awesome, our other wings suck, that brewer should get more playing time, and that we should all wait on Brewer hand on foot because he is our god. No thank you to that!

I'm with you on this one

teven_1 · Post #20 » by **teven_1** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:31 pm

Basti wrote:I wouldn't say that trading a player of the caliber of Corey Brewer is 'giving up' as he's a role player that can rather easily be replaced by another player.

With that being said, I've always been a fan of Corey's game. Yes, I'd still like to have him on the roster. Not that I think he'd have some great numbers but I could imagine him averaging 8-10 points on rather good percentages because I could see him getting many points in transition off good passes by Ricky. And he should get many open looks from the corner.

He would mesh with Rubio pretty well. Just to be clear, I don't feel I am inflating Brewers ability to say he'd be an upgrade over our other wings (albeit, not by much), but now that you mention it, his ability to hit open 3s (something he improved on every year) and get out on the break would have made him a really nice addition to have on offense.

What I always liked about Brewer is he didn't seem phased by pressure (not that we had too many "big moments" in his tenure)