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Re: Mitt Romney vs Obama GT 9PM EST 

Post#41 » by dobrojim » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:16 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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jivelikenice wrote:Is this a joke? This is why I think DC fans are incapable of watching a young player develop. If Wall is treated this way I can only imagine what people will say about RG3 if we draft him and he doesn't win 10 games his rookie season.

This board is entirely too sensitive when someone criticizes Walls play. I know there are 5-6 posters who go negative nancy on him all the time, but I'm not one of them. Wall may have finished with a great line, but during the second and third quarters before the game got out of reach Wall was invisible. He'd walk the ball up court, make one pass to the wing and hide in the corner. He wasn't creating for himself or his teammates. No assists in the 3rd and didn't score in the third until 3 minutes left. The only way this team is competitive is when Wall pushes the tempo and probes in the half court. If he does neither they'll look awful, which is what they were last night.


I am one who has been accused of being too negative on Wall, but I noticed his improved play and was effusive in praising him the past few games. Last night he played poorly until the game was out of reach. His stats were empty. McGee also played poorly but only played 24 or 25 minutes. Wall played 38. McGee's stat line at 38 would have been very impressive, too. He would have had another double double with over 20 points. Wall played very well when the game was out of reach. Wall isn't alone

Crawford kept playing hard, too, but his game was bad early as well. He took his usual bad shots. So did Young. I thought the whole team was off yesterday. Booker had one of his worst games, IMO. It was sort of the opposite of the Portland game. That game everybody played out of their mind good. Not against Utah. The Jazz are physically big, strong, and tough. The Wizards are not going to beat those type teams, IMO.


true but what you didn't say is more important than what you did say.
It was pretty much McGee through the entire first half that AlJeff
just ripped on. McGee's D on Jefferson was the single biggest reason
we got blown out. It's not the first time he's been destroyed by
exactly this type of post player. Perhaps JM thinks he can block
his shot attempts down low but at a certain point, you have to
start denying him the ball. With McGee's length and hops, he
is very hard to throw over when he fronts. Not sure why they
didn't do that.
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Re: Mitt Romney vs Obama GT 9PM EST 

Post#42 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:42 pm

I remember wanting the Wizards to do a few things so badly, they just never seemed to happen. Finally, Blatche and Lewis are not starting but it sure took a long time.

One thing that is so obvious, but the Wizards never scout it and adjust, is that Javale cannot defend physically imposing Cs well. Against Dwight Howard, the Wizards would be far better off having Seraphin expend his fouls. Even Trevor Booker can defend a physical C better than McGee. Washington defends best with Booker, Seraphin, and probably Vesely.

One thing the Wizards have never tried this year is Seraphin WITH McGee. Last night would have been the perfect game to go big with Seraphin and McGee. Jefferson cannot begin to defend McGee but he can push him out of the way. He can't do that to Seraphin.

The best thing the Wizards could try at this point is McGee with Seraphin because both block shots exceptionally well and one can hold position, while the other blocks from the weak side.
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Re: Mitt Romney vs Obama GT 9PM EST 

Post#43 » by Earth2Ted » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:44 pm

dobrojim wrote:true but what you didn't say is more important than what you did say.
It was pretty much McGee through the entire first half that AlJeff
just ripped on. McGee's D on Jefferson was the single biggest reason
we got blown out. It's not the first time he's been destroyed by
exactly this type of post player. Perhaps JM thinks he can block
his shot attempts down low but at a certain point, you have to
start denying him the ball. With McGee's length and hops, he
is very hard to throw over when he fronts. Not sure why they
didn't do that.


McGee did a lot of fronting one game against Hibbert last year with good success- then the next time they played Hibbert adjusted and won the matchup. So probably McGee (or Flip?) decided that wasn't a good strategy.

But I agree, it would have had a better chance of working against Jefferson where JaVale's length would be more of an advantage. Sure wouldn't have been any worse than the defense they ended up using.
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Post#44 » by tontoz » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:02 pm

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I am one who has been accused of being too negative on Wall, but I noticed his improved play and was effusive in praising him the past few games. Last night he played poorly until the game was out of reach.



WAll had 12/3 in the first half, 12/2 in the second half. He missed 2 shots in the first half and 2 shots in the 2nd half.

???
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Post#45 » by jivelikenice » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:21 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:
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no D in Hibachi wrote:This loss is on Wall. He's not even trying. He's making the first pass and then hiding in the corner. On and N1 sucks again, and Singleton is the worst starter in the league.


Is this a joke? This is why I think DC fans are incapable of watching a young player develop. If Wall is treated this way I can only imagine what people will say about RG3 if we draft him and he doesn't win 10 games his rookie season.

This board is entirely too sensitive when someone criticizes Walls play. I know there are 5-6 posters who go negative nancy on him all the time, but I'm not one of them. Wall may have finished with a great line, but during the second and third quarters before the game got out of reach Wall was invisible. He'd walk the ball up court, make one pass to the wing and hide in the corner. He wasn't creating for himself or his teammates. No assists in the 3rd and didn't score in the third until 3 minutes left. The only way this team is competitive is when Wall pushes the tempo and probes in the half court. If he does neither they'll look awful, which is what they were last night.


Wall had 10 pts in the 2nd and 6 in the 3rd. The game got out of reach early in the 3rd when the offense reverted back to one pass & a bad shot by his teammates. If he had goen hawk and not passed the ball he would be called the reason Utah blew him out. It just seems not matter what occurs, he's going to be blamed and the same convo about Wall will start every time the team loses. My point is just that not every loss is about him. Yesterday was an indictment of the roster Ernie put together (outside of Wall/ Vesely). Wall has things he has to work on and has been responsible for some of the teams bad play with his bouts of pouting and indifference on the court as well as his early season shooting, but there are a lot of positive signs coming out of his recent play. Now we just have to put starting NBA caliber talent around him.
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Post#46 » by jivelikenice » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:23 pm

tontoz wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
I am one who has been accused of being too negative on Wall, but I noticed his improved play and was effusive in praising him the past few games. Last night he played poorly until the game was out of reach.



WAll had 12/3 in the first half, 12/2 in the second half. He missed 2 shots in the first half and 2 shots in the 2nd half.

???


+1...he kept his head in the game and just played consistent throughout.
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Post#47 » by TGW » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:34 pm

Wall played fine last night.

Booker and McGee OTOH....that was downright disgraceful.
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Post#48 » by jivelikenice » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:41 pm

Noticed something on Booker....he has had chances at alley-oops the past few games and always brings the ball back down. he seems to have a hard to adjusting in the air and needs to reset before shooting. Not a huge deal but it gives defenses an opportunity to make up ground and contest and what otherwise should be a free 2 points.
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Post#49 » by FAH1223 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:30 am

this game is why I wanted a big like Enes Kanter. Utah is stacked with big men and their oldest ones are only 26-27.
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Re: Mitt Romney vs Obama GT 9PM EST 

Post#50 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:40 am

jivelikenice wrote:
tontoz wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
I am one who has been accused of being too negative on Wall, but I noticed his improved play and was effusive in praising him the past few games. Last night he played poorly until the game was out of reach.



WAll had 12/3 in the first half, 12/2 in the second half. He missed 2 shots in the first half and 2 shots in the 2nd half.

???


+1...he kept his head in the game and just played consistent throughout.


I will backtrack off of poorly. The scoreboard tallies assists, turnovers, and what the opponent scored as well. Devin Harris had 12 points and 9 rebounds in 22 minutes. I know the assists went to Jefferson, but I recall Harris got in the lane at will. Neither Wall nor anybody else played a lick of good defense in the first half.

To say Wall played fine in a game where everybody came down and jacked shots doesn't put any responsibility on the PG to control the tempo and to run the offense well. Since you quote made shots, how about assists and turnovers at half of Wall and Harris?

I can't even say anything about Wall without it being misconstrued.

The truth is Wall is playing much better now, but there is a reason he got picked 12th in that game.
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Post#51 » by Illuminaire » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:12 am

Yeah, and it's not a good one.

Wall DID play fine, and his teammates DID jack shots. He ran the offense. Our plays frequently call for the PG to dish to a guard or forward, then rotate to the corner. He did that, and then whoever had the ball just threw up a terrible shot.

Do you want Wall to just ignore his coach and the plays, CCJ? What would THAT say about his attitude/personality?
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Re: Mitt Romney vs Obama GT 9PM EST 

Post#52 » by tontoz » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:00 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:[
I can't even say anything about Wall without it being misconstrued.




Please explain how your post was misconstrued.

Harris had 4 points and 2 tunovers in the first half. One basket he scored was a breakaway after he stole Singletons pass. Was that Walls fault too?

Wall had 2 turnovers in the 1st.

Earl Watson played 21 minutes and scored 5 points. Wall outscored Harris/Watson 24 to 17.
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