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The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux

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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#81 » by tontoz » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:36 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:I'm impressed with McGee's expanded post game. Last night he showcased a drop step on the left block, a lefty and righty hook, and the last few games he's hit an elbow jumper. He's still a bit awkward with his moves, but you can't help but be encouraged by his progress. These flashes make me feel comfortable that if they land Davis the two could co-exist even though neither is a dominate offensive post big man.



Hadn't seen the lefty hook so when he shot it i was surprised. looked good though. His drop step has been getting better too.

His inability to hit foul shots/jumpers will limit him but he is definitely a credible low post scorer now.

He needs to get better from the foul line.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#82 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:57 pm

I now am curious how Javale would play next to a fit and highly motivated Blatche, if Andray played his best. As badly as I have written Andray off, I think the best thing now would be to have him back 100% and playing good team basketball.

Javale's offensive improvement might be enough to make him more effective with Andray. Both could up their trade values. I like Javale but I don't think he is a long-term Wizard unless they draft Davis.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#83 » by no D in Hibachi » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:45 am

Blatche and Mcgee will always be a bad combo even if both are in shape and motivated. Neither are really good rebounders. I mean they can get boards, but with the game on the line and 2 minutes left i dont trust that either would be able to dominate their man and grab the board. This is why getting davis, fingers crossed, would be so valuable.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#84 » by tontoz » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:43 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I now am curious how Javale would play next to a fit and highly motivated Blatche, if Andray played his best.



McGee's shot attempts will definitely go down playing with Blatche. No thanks
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#85 » by theboomking » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:52 am

dobrojim wrote:his offense /seems/ considerably better than last year

one caveat to that though is I winced when he made the
elbow jumper. That kind of result only would seem to
encourage him. Not good.


I disagree. Why would it be a bad thing if McGee could hit the midrange jumper? As much as I hate on McGee's defense and basketball IQ< he is worlds better than anything else we have at center offensively.Our team shoots poorly and doesn't provide enough spacing for Wall. If McGee could hit free throws and 15-18ft jumper, the team would be better off.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#86 » by closg00 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:33 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy1gAGqtr48[/youtube]

JaVale has started a movement :-)
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#87 » by miller31time » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:45 pm

tontoz wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I now am curious how Javale would play next to a fit and highly motivated Blatche, if Andray played his best.



McGee's shot attempts will definitely go down playing with Blatche. No thanks


I can just see it now -- Blatche comes back motivated and kinda in shape. He puts up big numbers. We all start to think he's maybe turned the corner because of the Wizards' tough stance on him after the start of this season. The next season starts. He's the same old, unmotivated, lazy, inefficient Blatche.

Rinse. Repeat.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#88 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:09 pm

Perhaps you are right.

What I hope is Blatche comes back in beast mode. Some team is desperate to win now. Maybe the Lakers, Hawks, Mavericks, or the Celtics will feel like adding Blatche might give them a scoring lift off their bench.

The alternative is Blatche is a Wizard under contract and he will need to get minutes to justify his salary.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#89 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:50 pm

miller31time wrote:
tontoz wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I now am curious how Javale would play next to a fit and highly motivated Blatche, if Andray played his best.



McGee's shot attempts will definitely go down playing with Blatche. No thanks


I can just see it now -- Blatche comes back motivated and kinda in shape. He puts up big numbers. We all start to think he's maybe turned the corner because of the Wizards' tough stance on him after the start of this season. The next season starts. He's the same old, unmotivated, lazy, inefficient Blatche.

Rinse. Repeat.

The key is to trade him once we start to think he has turned the corner.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#90 » by 7-Day Dray » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:32 pm

nate33 wrote:The key is to trade him once we start to think he has turned the corner.


But EG will believe in "Apil Fools" Dray and finally think he's turned the corner. He's not good at selling assets when they're at their highest value.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#91 » by dobrojim » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I now am curious how Javale would play next to a fit and highly motivated Blatche, if Andray played his best. As badly as I have written Andray off, I think the best thing now would be to have him back 100% and playing good team basketball.

Javale's offensive improvement might be enough to make him more effective with Andray. Both could up their trade values. I like Javale but I don't think he is a long-term Wizard unless they draft Davis.


True, but what are the realistic chances of that happening?
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#92 » by dobrojim » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:00 am

theboomking wrote:
dobrojim wrote:his offense /seems/ considerably better than last year

one caveat to that though is I winced when he made the
elbow jumper. That kind of result only would seem to
encourage him. Not good.


I disagree. Why would it be a bad thing if McGee could hit the midrange jumper? As much as I hate on McGee's defense and basketball IQ< he is worlds better than anything else we have at center offensively.Our team shoots poorly and doesn't provide enough spacing for Wall. If McGee could hit free throws and 15-18ft jumper, the team would be better off.


for the very simple reason that it would tend to encourage him to do more
of what he is not very good at. I love made baskets, but if they lead a player
to think they are capable of something past history has shown they are not
capable of, well, that might not be a good thing in the larger picture. I'm all
for him practicing and getting better while prioritizing those things that
will be useful in actual games. I think footwork in the paint/on the low blocks
is where he should focus his efforts.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#93 » by hands11 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:24 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

This is awesome. The guy is a freak. I give you the winner of last years dunk contest.

He should just submit the cookie dunk this year via this video and call it a day :D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrw-nNzlME&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#94 » by Zonkerbl » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:11 pm

nice!
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#95 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:34 pm

Randy Wittman benched him for the rest of the game in the third, but he's clueless as far as I am concerned about the real source of selfishness on the Wizards. I like what two guys at Bullets Forever wrote about Javale.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/2/20 ... efforts-of

Wizards vs. Suns Recap: JaVale McGee Excels Despite the Best Efforts of the Wizards


On a positive note....

If one were to watch this game from a player development standpoint, you would be exceedingly impressed at the strides that JaVale McGee has taken as a professional basketball player over the course of the last few games. This road trip has been a real eye opener on the possibility of the complete player that McGee can become when mentally focused as he relentlessly worked the entire evening on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor. He exploited Marcin Gortat with both his drop step as well as his quick hook in the lane which left the floor bound Suns center looking helpless and ineffective. Its this type of development that Flip Saunders talked about last year when he discussed McGee having eight amazing plays out of a possible 250. Tonight, McGee had about 70 good possession out of the 110 he took part in, but one "McGee-like" play led to him sitting for a large portion of the game. This, in conjunction with the Suns switching to a zone defense, led to the Suns outscoring the Wizards 31-7 in the 3rd quarter.

Normally, this type of disciplinary action wouldn't bother me because a precedent must be set that ill-advised decisions will lead to a trip to the bench. However, it is disconcerting to see McGee sit on a night where the vast majority of his play was exceptional, while both Nick Young and Jordan Crawford both had moments that were arguably more frustrating than McGee's bouts of poor decision-making. Both went 1-4, shot early in the clock, and for the most looked like the act of passing the ball would cause their heads to blow up. Yet, because of their "offensive prowess" they were allowed to remain in the game while McGee sat pinned to the bench.


http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/2/21 ... ?ref=yahoo

As Sean said last night, JaVale McGee was a bright spot. After a slow start, the Wizards pounded the ball into the low post on consecutive possessions and our Center came up huge to get the ball rolling...then we went away from him. After that, it was pretty much a catalogue of what we've come to expect.


I didn't even read those articles before I came to the same conclusion about Wittman in the game thread. He coached a Flip-like game last night. Reacted negatively and reflexively pulled McGee and left the shot jackers in the game. McGee forcing shots isn't the cardinal sin. McGee not playing defense IS the bad problem, but that is not what happened last night.

Once McGee left the game things just went really downhill.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#96 » by Nivek » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:37 pm

That video is just awesome. McGee shoulda been the dunk champ last year.

That cookie dunk was freaking crazy.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#97 » by Ed Wood » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:54 pm

I feel like that would make a very good JaVale themed sig, back when we had those. "Human beings are actually incapable of multitasking."

His post game is actually pretty inoffensive lately, but there seems to be an enormous gap in efficacy between his performance once he's established position fairly deep in the post as compared to when he's forced to initiate from farther out. That and he doesn't necessarily reliably distinguish between a good post move and a bad one. His drop step is apparently a good one now, the running hook probably not-so-good.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#98 » by mzaretsk » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:52 pm

http://youtu.be/62vBKPWsS3c

i don't feel bad for not watching this team anymore.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#99 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Mar 1, 2012 12:46 pm

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/2/29 ... r-or-later

"I can't say I do, but I'm sure I'll figure it out sooner or later."

JaVale McGee, when asked if he "understands" the message Randy Wittman is trying to send him and Nick Young by not starting them.

Wittman said he talked to McGee and Young today to try to figure out how to "get [them] back to playing the way [they] can." McGee declined to elaborate on what he discussed with Wittman, saying "that's between me and him."

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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux 

Post#100 » by sashae » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:01 pm

I am looking forward to the day that McGee is traded.
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