Leafs Regular Season Discussion

hsb · Post #401 » by **hsb** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:07 am

NHL defenceman and former Maple Leaf Bryan McCabe is set to retire after 15 seasons.

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whysoserious · Post #402 » by **whysoserious** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:23 pm

I was in Calgary and at the Saddledome for that game against the Leafs and goddam was that disappointing to watch the team play like that. The blown defensive coverages. I couldn't even believe at the end of the game when they showed we had out shot them and had 42 shots.

Relentless88 · Post #403 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:08 pm

That was a good looking first goal. Chemistry between Lupul and Kessel was pretty amazing on that goal. Bozak screening the goalie, Kessel dropping the puck and taking his man away and clearing the ice for a nice shot by Lupul. A win in Vancouver would be huge.

Post #404 » by **YogiStewart** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:02 pm

p.s. Winnipeg and Washington are playing knock knock ginger.

and Winnipeg has a big home stand. and they're playing a lot of non-contending teams to close out the season.

i almost think that the Leafs need to do another trade deadline home run trade. it will either make the franchise or literally ruin it for the next 3 years. it may be the difference between making the playoff and making a surprising run or between falling short of the playoffs and being cash strapped for the next 3 years.

LLJ · Post #405 » by **LLJ** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:17 am

IF they want to make the playoffs, I definitely think a trade is in order. It sure looks like they could barf out the final stretch of the season at this rate. Granted, I expected them to lose the games they've been losing, I just didn't expect them to lay down like the past few losses with a playoff spot on the line.

Post #406 » by **YogiStewart** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:32 am

the "best" part about the Leafs crapping the bed as of late is that it makes the playoff race interesting.
TBay, NYI and Mtl have 1 game in hand over Toronto.

its a 5 horse race for the 8th spot and Winnipeg and Washington are also fighting for 3rd in the Western conference w/Florida. So 6 teams, more or less, fighting for 1-2 playoff spots.

Without looking at the schedule, home vs away games, etc., its a nervous time to be a Leafs fan (not to be the bearer of negative news). I've been saying all along that the hot streak at the beginning of the season was an outlier. you tend to have adjustments to abnormally hot streaks . the next month may be that painful adjustment.

if i were a Leafs' fan, i'd be asking the real Maple Leafs' team to stand up

ATLTimekeeper · Post #407 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:25 pm

Still lots of time left and we're still in pretty good shape. I've noticed that whenever Yogi comes in with his "I warned you" spiel we tend to rip off a few wins in a row. Hopefully the good luck continues.

Would anyone here object to Phaneuf as the key part in a Nash trade? They're both overrated, but at least Nash wouldn't be stealing minutes from Schenn.

Post #408 » by **YogiStewart** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:41 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Still lots of time left and we're still in pretty good shape. I've noticed that whenever Yogi comes in with his "I warned you" spiel we tend to rip off a few wins in a row. Hopefully the good luck continues.

Would anyone here object to Phaneuf as the key part in a Nash trade? They're both overrated, but at least Nash wouldn't be stealing minutes from Schenn.

why would Columbus want Phaneuf? he's overpaid.
they would want Gardiner, Kadri, Colborne, to name a few.
I could see the Leafs trading Reimer as well, since he's relatively cheap. perhaps Columbus would give Mason back.

BobbyBoy · Post #409 » by **BobbyBoy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:32 am

Reimer = Andrew Raycroft 2.0.

If I was burke I would just sell of guys like MacArthur. Then in the offseason try to get a solid gaoltender, like Schiender

whysoserious · Post #410 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:04 am

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Still lots of time left and we're still in pretty good shape. I've noticed that whenever Yogi comes in with his "I warned you" spiel we tend to rip off a few wins in a row. Hopefully the good luck continues.

Would anyone here object to Phaneuf as the key part in a Nash trade? They're both overrated, but at least Nash wouldn't be stealing minutes from Schenn.

I defend Schenn all the time, the guy makes mistakes but he often looks like the easy target as a result of other players making mistakes and he's left out to dry sometimes in front of the net. Not that he doesn't make mistakes but how does Phaneuf take minutes from him? Schenn hasn't done much to earn more minutes than he's getting nor has he established himself as anything more than a number 3/4 defensemen. For all Phaneufs faults, he brings a lot to the table and other teams do fear him. It's why he's so hated around the league.

Post #411 » by **Crowned** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:25 am

If Columbus wants Jake Gardiner in a trade for Nash, I hope Burke suddenly 'misplaces' Howson's phone number. I truly think he should be the most untouchable player on the roster. He oozes potential, and should be a cornerstone for this franchise.

If Columbus wants a package with Schenn, Reimer, Kadri, Colborne, Biggs, whatever (choose any of them) then I think I'd breathe a little easier trading our youth away, but again...there's no way I'd trade Gardiner right now.

Post #412 » by **Crowned** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:26 am

BobbyBoy wrote:Reimer = Andrew Raycroft 2.0.
If I was burke I would just sell of guys like MacArthur. Then in the offseason try to get a solid gaoltender, like Schiender

Based on what? His 60 games played to date?

ATLTimekeeper · Post #413 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:33 pm

whysoserious wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Still lots of time left and we're still in pretty good shape. I've noticed that whenever Yogi comes in with his "I warned you" spiel we tend to rip off a few wins in a row. Hopefully the good luck continues.

Would anyone here object to Phaneuf as the key part in a Nash trade? They're both overrated, but at least Nash wouldn't be stealing minutes from Schenn.

I defend Schenn all the time, the guy makes mistakes but he often looks like the easy target as a result of other players making mistakes and he's left out to dry sometimes in front of the net. Not that he doesn't make mistakes but how does Phaneuf take minutes from him? Schenn hasn't done much to earn more minutes than he's getting nor has he established himself as anything more than a number 3/4 defensemen. For all Phaneufs faults, he brings a lot to the table and other teams do fear him. It's why he's so hated around the league.

He's hated (and possibly feared), but I don't think that qualifies one as good or bad. They might fear his open-ice hits, but he doesn't deserve 26 minutes a night for something that occurs maybe 3-4 times a season. We have trouble preventing goals and Dion is a major culprit in his own end. Schenn is more reliable and deserves some of those minutes.

BobbyBoy · Post #414 » by **BobbyBoy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:57 pm

Crowned wrote:
BobbyBoy wrote:Reimer = Andrew Raycroft 2.0.
If I was burke I would just sell of guys like MacArthur. Then in the offseason try to get a solid gaoltender, like Schiender

Based on what? His 60 games played to date?

uhh, do you know the story of andrew Raycroft? he was great in his first year, then the next he flopped, just like reimer.

Brew666 · Post #415 » by **Brew666** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:40 pm

BobbyBoy wrote:
Crowned wrote:
BobbyBoy wrote:Reimer = Andrew Raycroft 2.0.
If I was burke I would just sell of guys like MacArthur. Then in the offseason try to get a solid gaoltender, like Schiender

Based on what? His 60 games played to date?

uhh, do you know the story of andrew Raycroft? he was great in his first year, then the next he flopped, just like reimer.

Why do you consider this year a flop? He's posting a a .900 plus save %, sub 3 GAA and has a winning record. And he's been doing that pretty well his entire career. Raycroft never had any consistency from year to year.

Personally, I like Reimer as our #1, he's has been streaky this year but he has also been dealing with a lot more distractions this year as well. The concussion, increased media attention, other teams knowing his strengths and weaknesses, the amount contact he seems to get in a game, etc.

BobbyBoy · Post #416 » by **BobbyBoy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:08 pm

I guess you have some points, but when you said he has been good his whole career, do mean only NHL or other leagues?

Bankai · Post #417 » by **Bankai** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:32 am

If the Canucks feel no choice but to trade or let a goalie go, I would like the Leafs to make a play for Cory Schneider. The guy would be a bonafide #1 goalie. I knew he was special last year, I mentioned it a couple of times, and this season its all the more evident. Goaltending needs to be cleaned up for the Leafs. Like its been said before, a hot goalie could single handily win games/series for your team.

whysoserious · Post #418 » by **whysoserious** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:40 am

Seriously, Gustavvson cannot let in goals like that overtime goal. The team takes it to the Devils in the third, battles hard to tie it up, almost wins it and the Devils come down and score a weak a$$ goal like that.

Post #419 » by **Crowned** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:38 am

BobbyBoy wrote:I guess you have some points, but when you said he has been good his whole career, do mean only NHL or other leagues?

Both.

He had a very good junior career (played on some horrible teams, but had a strong save % and turned some heads), won an ECHL playoff MVP award, put up good numbers with the Marlies, had a very strong rookie season last year, and started this year well prior to his injury.

Post #420 » by **Crowned** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:41 am

Bankai wrote:If the Canucks feel no choice but to trade or let a goalie go, I would like the Leafs to make a play for Cory Schneider. The guy would be a bonafide #1 goalie. I knew he was special last year, I mentioned it a couple of times, and this season its all the more evident. Goaltending needs to be cleaned up for the Leafs. Like its been said before, a hot goalie could single handily win games/series for your team.

I'd love to get him, but I don't see a deal they'd be interested in. If they're going to deal him, I see the Canucks dangling him for another star.