Bosh Offense Sucks

[CablexDeadpool]

Since Wade came back...let's be honest... Bosh freaking has sucked on offense.

He's playing like Andray Blatche.

It's horrible horrible horrible horrible.


With playoff teams, sure-fire playoff/contender teams, regular season matters. It matters for habits, chemistry and succeeding in adverse situations. It doesn't matter for record.

He sucks right now. I hope he can turn it around. I actually thought he would be better offensively, like 22 a game this year, but idk, he's not really doing good.

[DefenseWins]

Yeah... not sure what to say about this.

Against NY he was so bad, that has to change.

Atleast he was good against Chicago... but Wade was bad against Chicago.

I really don't know when the next time both Wade and Bosh have a good game... but then more than likely LeBron would have a bad game.

lol.

Bosh atleast still has been active on the glass and doing other things... but let's see how he is after the All-Star break. Maybe needs a break? (despite less minutes and such... who knows what's the problem)

[This IsMy House]

It can't be Wades fault I don't get it. He is still getting good looks he's just not making them as often. When he's out there by himself he just seems out of it and doesn't know how to generate his own shot. It can't be all because of Wade, yes Wade is going to take away a few shots from him, but he also does from LeBron and LeBron is doing just fine. Bosh will get back into the flow of the game, and when he does Miami is going to be almost unstoppable.

[arsenic]

Bosh has been awful. Polar opposite of how he was before Wade's return and it's not really an issue at the forefront because you have LBJ and Wade playing out of their minds right now. Hopefully Bosh will work his way back in offensively but at this point it can no longer be considered a "slump". We're 14 games in now with him playing this way MOST nights.

[daniel3]

When Wade was out he was getting looks rolling to the basket and was allowed to handle it more. With both Lebron and Wade being better at that when they are on floor together, they get those looks far more now so it's more or less about his jumper and if it isn't falling, he's in for a rough night. It's also compounded by fact he isn't selfish and probably won't force it with Wade and Lebron out there.

[CablexDeadpool]

It can't be Wades fault I don't get it. He is still getting good looks he's just not making them as often. When he's out there by himself he just seems out of it and doesn't know how to generate his own shot. It can't be all because of Wade, yes Wade is going to take away a few shots from him, but he also does from LeBron and LeBron is doing just fine. Bosh will get back into the flow of the game, and when he does Miami is going to be almost unstoppable.

Lebron is different from Wade. Lebron has this weird way of getting his shot no matter what and then making his teammates get theirs to. Lebron and Wade go to together because they are amazing full court players and they play opportunistic defense.

With Wade on the court it pretty much becomes Wade and Lebron show and Bosh is 5 jumpers a game and he is lucky if he gets a few drives or a few post ups.

It's that simple. And yeah Bosh gets his 10 and 12 shots a game, but it's just jumpers mostly.

And I feel as if the Heat needs a real point guard to get Bosh going. You can't have Chalmers shooting his shots and he can't really run pick and rolls and then you have Lebron posting up and then you have Wade doing the Wade thing.


Bosh is just out there, he doesn't even have a real niche, he's just straight mercenary. He does whatever the hell he feels like. It's kinda sad, that when last year, he's just shooting jumpers, and this year he still is shooting jumpers but he gets little opportunities to do his thing.

The way Bosh played without Wade is totally different. Bosh was going in on everybody, straight annihilating teams. Wade comes back and it's back to him just shooting jumpshots and just looking like he's half-assing it offensively because then Wade and Lebron just takes over and Bosh just take his occasional shot.

Lebron can play with anybody but Lebron can't make Bosh and Wade better. And what I mean by better is that Lebron makes you play better because nobody can really just guard you because Lebron will stuff the stat sheet. Everybody pays attention to Lebron.

Most of the time it's Lebron and Wade making each other better. Those 2 together don't make Bosh better. They make him worse, they ignore him and just make him a jumpshooter. Bosh is more skilled than a jumpshooter. This new offense isn't good for midrange jumpshooting, there is no real space in the paint with Lebron in the post and high post, with Wade on the court. You have to pay attention to Wade and Bosh while they sag off Wade, they have also occupying Bosh's space.This is why Bosh has been taking 3s.

Bosh needs help. It's not a slump. It almost evident that Wade Bosh and Lebron can't just play together and fully utilize Bosh talents. Bosh is a very very very good teammate and he misses about 6 shots and just let Wade and Lebron go do their thing.

[CablexDeadpool]

It can't be Wades fault I don't get it. He is still getting good looks he's just not making them as often. When he's out there by himself he just seems out of it and doesn't know how to generate his own shot. It can't be all because of Wade, yes Wade is going to take away a few shots from him, but he also does from LeBron and LeBron is doing just fine. Bosh will get back into the flow of the game, and when he does Miami is going to be almost unstoppable.

Wade and Lebron don't take shots from each other

Wade takes the same amount of shots he always did

Lebron takes one less shot.


Bosh is the one who is giving up his shots.

[This IsMy House]

It can't be Wades fault I don't get it. He is still getting good looks he's just not making them as often. When he's out there by himself he just seems out of it and doesn't know how to generate his own shot. It can't be all because of Wade, yes Wade is going to take away a few shots from him, but he also does from LeBron and LeBron is doing just fine. Bosh will get back into the flow of the game, and when he does Miami is going to be almost unstoppable.

Wade and Lebron don't take shots from each other

Wade takes the same amount of shots he always did

Lebron takes one less shot.


Bosh is the one who is giving up his shots.

Yet when he's in the game by himself he doesn't seem to try and generate his own shot, the way he did when Wade was out. Doesn't make sense.

Since Wade has been back he's been averaging about 13 shots per game, and shooting about 40%. I mean those aren't awful numbers but they aren't great. Not compared to when he shot about 16 shots a game
and shot about 63%. Which is just remarkable. Again not all of this can be blamed solely on Wade being back. He's taking about 3 shots less a game but his percentage is down by about 23%.

I don't see why Wade being on the floor is an excuse for him to go 8-21 against Cleveland. Its not just Wade taking a few of his shots, its him not making the same shots he was when Wade was out. The other night he had made a move into the paint for a hook shot, that looked just absolutely awful. He also hasn't attempted a FT in the last two games. Again something that can't be blamed on Wade being back. He just seems to be in a funk, and right now it seems to be the best time to be in that funk with Wade and LeBron lighting it up nightly. But just like his funk won't last forever, neither will Wade/LeBron lighting it up nightly.

One thing I think might be contributing to his lack of shooting is that Miami is playing at a pretty fast pace right now and trying to catch defenses before they have a chance to set up. Which means LeBron and Wade are pushing the ball up the court before everyone can get set on either side of the ball, in order to get an easier shot. Bosh isn't nearly as fast as those two. So maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not sure, but his shooting percent has dropped immensely and that can't be all related to Wade coming back.

Also LeBron has also seem him attempts per game go down since Wades return. While Wade was out LeBron was averaging about 21 shots per game and since Wades come back he's down to about 17 shots per game. Both LeBron and Bosh give up their shots, but his shooting percentage has gone from about 49% to about 55%. LeBron is taking less shots, and making more of them, while Bosh is taking less and making far fewer.

On a positive note, he has been rebounding the ball pretty well in the last 9 games he has 9, 12, 7, 7, 16, 11, 9, 9, 8. So at least he's helping with something and not just completely going into a slump like some people do when their shot isn't falling.

[RexBoyWonder]

i really dont get whay they dont play more P&R between LBJ and Bosh. it will give Bosh some nice opportunities. i totally agree that it's a coaching issue, they just cant find a way to make him comfortable..if we can get Bosh to play to his full potenital WHILE LBJ and Wade are on the court, that will be huge. for now it's not happening.

[HeatGuyInChicago]

It can't be Wades fault I don't get it. He is still getting good looks he's just not making them as often. When he's out there by himself he just seems out of it and doesn't know how to generate his own shot. It can't be all because of Wade, yes Wade is going to take away a few shots from him, but he also does from LeBron and LeBron is doing just fine. Bosh will get back into the flow of the game, and when he does Miami is going to be almost unstoppable.

Wade and Lebron don't take shots from each other

Wade takes the same amount of shots he always did

Lebron takes one less shot.


Bosh is the one who is giving up his shots.

Yet when he's in the game by himself he doesn't seem to try and generate his own shot, the way he did when Wade was out. Doesn't make sense.

Since Wade has been back he's been averaging about 13 shots per game, and shooting about 40%. I mean those aren't awful numbers but they aren't great. Not compared to when he shot about 16 shots a game
and shot about 63%. Which is just remarkable. Again not all of this can be blamed solely on Wade being back. He's taking about 3 shots less a game but his percentage is down by about 23%.

I don't see why Wade being on the floor is an excuse for him to go 8-21 against Cleveland. Its not just Wade taking a few of his shots, its him not making the same shots he was when Wade was out. The other night he had made a move into the paint for a hook shot, that looked just absolutely awful. He also hasn't attempted a FT in the last two games. Again something that can't be blamed on Wade being back. He just seems to be in a funk, and right now it seems to be the best time to be in that funk with Wade and LeBron lighting it up nightly. But just like his funk won't last forever, neither will Wade/LeBron lighting it up nightly.

One thing I think might be contributing to his lack of shooting is that Miami is playing at a pretty fast pace right now and trying to catch defenses before they have a chance to set up. Which means LeBron and Wade are pushing the ball up the court before everyone can get set on either side of the ball, in order to get an easier shot. Bosh isn't nearly as fast as those two. So maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not sure, but his shooting percent has dropped immensely and that can't be all related to Wade coming back.

Also LeBron has also seem him attempts per game go down since Wades return. While Wade was out LeBron was averaging about 21 shots per game and since Wades come back he's down to about 17 shots per game. Both LeBron and Bosh give up their shots, but his shooting percentage has gone from about 49% to about 55%. LeBron is taking less shots, and making more of them, while Bosh is taking less and making far fewer.

On a positive note, he has been rebounding the ball pretty well in the last 9 games he has 9, 12, 7, 7, 16, 11, 9, 9, 8. So at least he's helping with something and not just completely going into a slump like some people do when their shot isn't falling.

Have you been watching the games lately? Wade is playing excellent basketball. He is shooting .497 currently on the season. Bosh is not much of a post presence. He is a face the basket jumpshooter. He is currently shooting .488. That is also pretty good considering he is shooting from the perimeter more than the average bigman. Don't underestimate his value to the team.

[kyphi]

And Bosh still has to be defended on offense - this is smelling more like a Wade is making Bosh bad thread to which I disagree. Man, we are winning; what's the problem?

[FlashTheKilla]

I'm still way more worried about our three point defense than I am about Bosh.

I think he'll be fine.

[Flash4thewin]

Saying its Wade's fault is not right. We do need to give Bosh better shots. Run plays for him that aren't just an open jump shot

[InWadeWeTrust]

Who cares? who cares if bosh isnt doing well offensively....we're playing on another level as a team. So who cares what the individual numbers are. I am sure Bosh will step up and hit big shots in the playoffs....he will.

[GameTime_3]

Seriously?
Chris Bosh is the least of our worries. The dude proved last year that when it matters he stepped up! He was our most consistant player in the playoffs last year! His going through a shooting slump which is normal. Wade/LeBron are picking him up. I think alot of it has to do with the schedule and his lift.

[This IsMy House]

Have you been watching the games lately? Wade is playing excellent basketball. He is shooting .497 currently on the season. Bosh is not much of a post presence. He is a face the basket jumpshooter. He is currently shooting .488. That is also pretty good considering he is shooting from the perimeter more than the average bigman. Don't underestimate his value to the team.

Yes I watch every single Heat game. I'm not hating on the guy at all, I am just as confused as the rest of us on why his offense has been down so much lately. For the season yes he is shooting 48.8%, but to say he's not in a slump is just not true. I know what his value to this team is, and I know how much we will need him come playoff time, another reason why I stated that every player goes through a slump, right now Bosh is, and its the best time to do that since Wade/LeBron have been lighting it up nightly. I just hope that the night those two cool off, Bosh is there to keep up the winning.

I don't think anyone here is really hating on the guy, everyone is just kind of curious why his offense has dropped. The argument of it being that Wade is back is just false. He's taking 3 less shots a game with Wade on the floor and shooting 20% less. Thats not Wades fault, he's just in slump. The same way Battier was a couple weeks back. He will come back around for the team, no one doubts that.

[Hoopz Afrik]

He just seems to be more tentative out there when it's all three playing. It has been mentioned before but he seems content on taking those mid to long range jumpers and not even sniffing the block. WE know what kind of player he is but damn. He missed 13 shots the other night, Dwyane Wade has no bearings on that. Erik Spoelstra and the coaching staff is going to have to find a way to work out the kinks but as it stands we're still the most dominant team in the league.

[Chosen01]

Think about this guys, Heat are thrashing and basically steamrolling teams with Bosh in his slump, just imagine when he's out of it...

Bosh will pick it up in the playoffs and when he does, this team will be even more scarier.

[DefenseWins]

Let's just bump this thread when we lose and Bosh has a bad game

[kyphi]

the way I look at it is that Bosh had to be the go to guy in Toronto. He doesn't have to be here but is capable of carrying a team for a short time.